top ten overrated prog songs

dtguitarfan wrote: Anthony wrote: The whole discography of Steven Wilson is overrated. Though I hope you aren't including all of Porcupine Tree, I would wholeheartedly agree on his solo albums. I was really expecting great things from his latest, the way people around here built it up and it was just so...boring!

Strange. "Grace for Drowning" is the first Steve Wilson project that made me understand why people love his music so much. I still can't get into Porcupine Tree at all. Just seems like cliched metal riffs, to me. Doesn't capture my imagination and hold on like "Raider II", "Deform to Form a Star", and "Remainder the Black Dog".

Snow Dog wrote: ^No, boring is A (non)Dramatic Turn Of Events

It's honestly just a difference in musical tastes. That's okay.

Horizons wrote: You say you like them for their musical theory brilliance and technicality, but sometimes these executions make it all seem stale to me. I rather listen to The Final Cut dozens of times than  Scenes From A Memory.  It's just preference.

I agree. DT used to be one of my favorite bands until I started to get into King Crimson. Crimson captured me and I've never been able to return to DT. Bands like Crim, Floyd, Tull, and Magma have so much passion and emotion, its hard for me to return to the technically efficient, yet rather cold Dream Theater.

By the way, I've heard "Final Cut" about 100x more than "Scenes" ... I like it better, too.

Horizons wrote: dtguitarfan wrote: If you say Dream Theater does not have multiple colors on their canvas, you haven't listened to their catalog, plain and simple. I'm cool with you having different tastes and admitting it. But I'm just saying: 20 years down the road a bunch of old farts will be on this forum still talking about Dream Theater, and insulting whoever the big name is then, but there's going to be a whole lot of other names that will hardly be talked about. And that's an underdog victory story, not a typical Billboard Chart story. Are you going to tell me that DT has more styles than the cliche prog metal sound? It may vary in heaviness, excluding any ballads or intros, but it's overall very similar.  BTW i do not hate DT. I have some of their albums. My favorites being Awake, FII, and Six Degrees. But nowadays i rarely listen to them.  Like i stated before - they're stale to me now.

AHA! EXCLUDING BALLADS AND INTROS?! Even you are admitting they have more than one color in their pallate there! Now, they may choose to use many colors in the same song, and you're just picking out the fact that most songs employ the color black, but that's not the same as only using one color...

Horizons wrote: I can't have a decent argument with you.  Your blind faith to DT makes it impossible.

Yes, clearly this is a band that only plays "typical" Progressive Metal - a band that has only one color on their palette:


Ok, suppose we were talking about movie directors, and I came on here and said that Tim Burton only had one color on his palette.  I'm sure there would be people who agreed with me.  But then there would be people who would say that's preposterous, and with good reason as Batman is definitely very different from Alice and Wonderland.  YES, there is a darkness and a strangeness that is recognizable as Tim Burton's style and is in most of his movies.  But to say his palette has one color....

By the way, right after I finished writing this post, I started playing "Beneath the Surface" and asked my wife if she'd say this was typical Progressive Metal.  She does NOT like Dream Theater, by the way.  She said to me "I don't think there's anything metal about this.  Who is this?"  I said "this is Dream Theater."  She said "THIS is Dream Theater?  Is that the same singer they always have?!!"  I said yes.  I think I proved this band has more than one color on their palette.... 


Edited by dtguitarfan - May 03 2012 at 16:28

^ Okay, if you say so   .

I think DT need to deconstruct themselves and then construct again from the ground up. I think they fear to do it though. They have made a comparitive success and are afraid to lose it. A victim of their own success in a way. Portnoy was right. The band need a break.

Edited by Snow Dog - May 05 2012 at 10:34

Snow Dog wrote: I think DT need to deconstruct themselves and then construct again from the ground up. I think they fear to do it though. They have made a comparitive success and are afraid to lose it. A victim of their own success in a way. Portnoy was right. The band need a break.

Exactly.

dtguitarfan wrote: Saying Dream Theater produces "typical progressive metal" is like saying they produce typical diamonds....

Diamonds for you, my friend.   Everybody has their own tastes, so let's not assume the 'lack' of DT appreciation is some great loss for the concerned listeners.  And yes, I am yet another guy who liked I&W and Awake and have gradually lost interest in the band.  I do apologize for that crime in advance.