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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 19:42
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I'm working on getting as many early Genesis remasters as I can. Most of the originals have just plain awful quality.


Same here - Particularly Nursery Cryme IMHO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2009 at 08:31
Well that was recorded on 8 track, so it was the worst recorded Genesis album in the first place.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2009 at 18:52
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I guess that explains it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2009 at 22:19
So, now what do you think about Wakeman's solo discography? I've found many people here rather not giving credit to his solo work, but I do like it pretty much. Paricularly the mighty first 3 (6 wives, Journey, and Arthur,which I find just about as good as any Yes album), but even digging into less known latter works, I've been pleasantly surprised to find very good songs, if not whole albums, by him. Particularly the album Out There was really very good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2009 at 22:25
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

So, now what do you think about Wakeman's solo discography? I've found many people here rather not giving credit to his solo work, but I do like it pretty much. Paricularly the mighty first 3 (6 wives, Journey, and Arthur,which I find just about as good as any Yes album), but even digging into less known latter works, I've been pleasantly surprised to find very good songs, if not whole albums, by him. Particularly the album Out There was really very good.


I only have the first 3, but they are among the best albums I own, anyday. Amazing stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2009 at 09:12
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

So, now what do you think about Wakeman's solo discography? I've found many people here rather not giving credit to his solo work, but I do like it pretty much. Paricularly the mighty first 3 (6 wives, Journey, and Arthur,which I find just about as good as any Yes album), but even digging into less known latter works, I've been pleasantly surprised to find very good songs, if not whole albums, by him. Particularly the album Out There was really very good.


I love Wakemans solo discography. The 3 albums that you mentioned are incredible. I only own 2 others, but they are good as well. I think he has the best solo discography of all Yes members.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2009 at 13:28
OK, anyone here that likes 6 wives might just as well want to give Criminal Record a try. Very good album, first 3 tracks quiet similar to 6 wives (played with Squire on bass and White on drums), and then, Birdman of Alcatraz is a pretty beautiful piano piece, and the mighty Judas Iscariot is a piece that includes keyboards, church organ and piano, and a very cool choir, really amazing track, though perhaps a bit too long.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2009 at 14:37
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

OK, anyone here that likes 6 wives might just as well want to give Criminal Record a try. Very good album, first 3 tracks quiet similar to 6 wives (played with Squire on bass and White on drums), and then, Birdman of Alcatraz is a pretty beautiful piano piece, and the mighty Judas Iscariot is a piece that includes keyboards, church organ and piano, and a very cool choir, really amazing track, though perhaps a bit too long.


I'll second that - a fine LP and amongst his best work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2009 at 14:42
I was taking a look at the Yesworld site earlier today, and in an interview with Squire he suggested that the present Anderson-less lineup will be heading for the studio to record new music. Thoughts?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2009 at 17:03
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

OK, anyone here that likes 6 wives might just as well want to give Criminal Record a try. Very good album, first 3 tracks quiet similar to 6 wives (played with Squire on bass and White on drums), and then, Birdman of Alcatraz is a pretty beautiful piano piece, and the mighty Judas Iscariot is a piece that includes keyboards, church organ and piano, and a very cool choir, really amazing track, though perhaps a bit too long.


I'll second that - a fine LP and amongst his best work.
You're taking me waaaay back.  I haven't heard Criminal Record in decades I think, a friend's record.  I did like it sort of, but I wonder if my more mature ears would like it more.  Or less.  I'll have to get it.

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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I was taking a look at the Yesworld site earlier today, and in an interview with Squire he suggested that the present Anderson-less lineup will be heading for the studio to record new music. Thoughts?


I'm very hopeful. After I heard about the new lineup I was waiting for a new albumTongue

But after I saw the new lineup live recently, I thought that it seemed more than temporary, and that they got along well and were great at playing together. They did a great job live, so I think the album will be pretty promising.Thumbs Up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2009 at 21:48
     I have mixed fealings about this. I think it would be great to hear Benoit creating and singing new stuff with Yes, created for his own voice, instead of trying to duplicate Anderson. He did a very good job at singing Anderson's songs, but he's not Anderson, and in parts of the show that was evident. I thought Benoit was at his best when singing at his own range, and creating music with him in mind should be very interesting. Besides, the new blood might give Yes a fresh sound by young and daring musicians (if Benoit and Oliver would be up to the task).
     However, Yes is suposed to be touring with Benoit and Oliver Wakeman because Jon and Rick weren't up to the tour given their health state, so, there should be no reason for them not to make a studio album with the rest of Yes, and I wouldn't like to think that the Classic lineup of Yes is finally over, even in studio.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 01:15
Nope - I probably won't be buying it.

Jon Anderson makes YES for me, and without him, I don't think I'll get it.

I'm not one to judge Benoit's voice - I've only seen it in YouTube bootlegs, but I really dislike what I've heard so far, in complete honesty. It sounds hollow to me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 07:32
I totally respect when a band finds a new voice, even if its former one is a huge part of its sound (like recently The Gathering) and sometimes, I even like the new band but with Yes, it could be interesting if they find a different voice but making an album with a singer who was known to "copy" the original singer is quite strange...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 07:50
^Especially after hearing that Anderson has been the one member who's been asking the others for the new material. Perhaps the other guys just don't want to work with Jon and now that they got another guy they have more enthusiasm for recording too?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 07:59
Maybe but please I hope they find a singer who doesn't always remind us of Anderson without being Anderson Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 13:50
Some interesting responses, and I will go with Joel especially, in that it is extremely unlikely that I will buy another Yes album without the great inspiration that is Anderson.

Also, I agree with the other posters who said that it was Anderson who wanted the band to record new material, instead of merely chugging out greatest hits tours. What is going on with them? Have they all had one final fall out?

What a shame, because Magnification was, to these ears, a huge return to form and I really wanted fresh material.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 16:18
^^ Here, here.  It's an interesting phenomenon with bands being a sort of brand that can stretch credulity until is finally snaps, and there's no full agreement amongst people just where and when it snaps.  When I was a child listening to, say, Yes and Led Zeppelin records, I would from time to time wonder at the thought of a guy like Robert Plant or Jon Anderson as old men, like really old men.  And here we are entering that.  I think back to that childhood thought - I remember thinking, what would they look like?,  and other stuff like that.  But I have to say I did not imagine they'd be working, especially in rock.  I guess I pictured them as retired, doing an interview here and there, writing memoirs or maybe working at a more sedentary artistic endeavor.  So knowing that Anderson (you can throw Plant in here too, and I won't further sidetrack but of course there are others) still wants to work and especially to make new stuff, that's pretty fascinating to me, pretty great just on a human level. Clap

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2009 at 09:56
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Nope - I probably won't be buying it.

Jon Anderson makes YES for me, and without him, I don't think I'll get it.

I'm not one to judge Benoit's voice - I've only seen it in YouTube bootlegs, but I really dislike what I've heard so far, in complete honesty. It sounds hollow to me.


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Sorry Joel, but I couldn't disagree more. If you close your eyes and listen to Benoit, I swear it sounds like it's 1972. Jon Anderson doesn't make the band for me as well. Drama is an excellent album, and if they can pull of one great album without him, I'm sure they could pull off another. Jon Anderson has a great voice, but I definitely am not upset he's gone. In the great words of Rick Wakeman "Jon's so concerned about saving our planet, while not even residing on it", pretty much saying he's a hippy lunatic. I don't have a huge problem with Jon or anything, but when I spoke with Benoit, he seems much more down to earth.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2009 at 01:20
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As I said, I haven't actually seen them live with Benoit, and I'm sure its alot to do with the atmosphere of being there. I also Love DRAMA, but I like Jon Anderson more (Way more)...

I understand than Jon Anderson isn't exactly the most sane human around... But, (without trying to be rude), I don't really care! Its produced what is easily my all-time favourite music.

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