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Dean 
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 Posted: August 05 2009 at 16:13 |
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Possibly, though it's a probably a Romany word.
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 16:25 |
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Cushtie = good in Romani (I just looked it up)
Also, Chavi (not corrupted to chav) is also a Romani word.
Don't forget we also use Yiddish words too without realising it.
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 16:38 |
 James wrote:
Cushtie = good in Romani (I just looked it up)
Also, Chavi (not corrupted to chav) is also a Romani word.
Don't forget we also use Yiddish words too without realising it.
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The only language we don't seem to keen on assimilating into the English vocab is Welsh - I believe there are only 4 or 5 Welsh words in regular English usage, and one of those is 'eisteddfod'.
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 16:49 |
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And nobody knows what an Eisteddfod is anyway... (yes I know it's a Welsh festival of literature)
And it doesn't get underlined on my Firefox spell check, so it's even in their dictionary!
If you go with forenames, then there's a lot more.
Gladys (Gwladys)
Rhiannon
Myfanwy
Angharad
Bethan
Cromlech is also Welsh.
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 17:30 |
James wrote:
Cushtie = good in Romani (I just looked it up)
Also, Chavi (not corrupted to chav) is also a Romani word.
Don't forget we also use Yiddish words too without realising it.
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Much loved by a certain Del Boy of course.
When they were at High School a few years back my kids tried to kid me into believing that chav stood for Council House, Alcohol & Violence. Considering they were both born in ex-council houses and their father is known to enjoy copious amounts of flavoured alcohol I wondered where they were at for a minute. Then i remembered I'm non-violent and breathed a sigh of relief.
Anyone interested in Romany could read Lavengro or The Romany Rye by George Borrow - I won't bore the asses of everyone with a synopsis here, but a quick Wiki will give the general idea.
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 02:19 |
Dean wrote:
James wrote:
So I know what it is. I just don't know any Polari. |
You do, you just don't know it: barney (fight), blag (pick-up), bod (body), khazi (w.c.), clobber (clothes), crimper (hairdresser), doss (bed, sleep), ogle (look), plates (feet), scarper (run away), schmutter (clothes), slap (cosmetics), todd (as in on your own) and zhoosh (as in zhooshing it up) all entered the english language from Polari. (according to Wiki) |
Some interesting ones there, but surely "Plates" comes from "Plates Of Meat"? I would have thought Cockney rhyming slang pre-dates Polari, unless there's something about the East End I wasn't aware of  (  now I'm getting mental images I could do without, involving pearly queens & jellied eels...)
Also, I thought "schmutter" is a very old Yiddish word for clothing...  Yiddish definitely predates Polari - unless you're implying...
No - don't even go there.
Edited by Jim Garten - August 06 2009 at 02:21
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 02:41 |
hi chaps - in the middle of a week off and reaping the "rewards" of blowing the dust off my music collection some time ago and finding dozens of unplayed cd's to sell off, in order to expand my LP collection and fill in a few "black holes".
I was somewhat disappointed to find said cd's most are practically worthless now but the saleable ones originally costing £10-£12 but now lucky to get £2 at the most, and some LP albums i missed out on are now up to and around £50 in value in ex/n mint condition (one Opeth rare vinyl album "Ghost Reveries" was over £80  ) , so over the last few weeks have "blown the dust off" some musical gadgetry no longer used (effects paraphenalia, pa system, one guitar) to be able to snap up a few gems such as "Kings of Leon" debut album on 10" vinyl for £50 (staggering sound quality, a few veils away off the cd recording) which i wish i'd got when it was first released in 2003.... 
anyway something that came up on the news this morning made me feel a little better for my lack of foresight - the "Friends Reunited" website having been sold to an Independent TV Company for £175 million a few years ago was sold on by the company for... £20 million..... 
...surely the worst investment in history?
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 03:19 |
mystic fred wrote:
hi chaps - in the middle of a week off and reaping the "rewards" of blowing the dust off my music collection some time ago and finding dozens of unplayed cd's to sell off, in order to expand my LP collection and fill in a few "black holes".
I was somewhat disappointed to find said cd's most are practically worthless now but the saleable ones originally costing £10-£12 but now lucky to get £2 at the most, and some LP albums i missed out on are now up to and around £50 in value in ex/n mint condition (one Opeth rare vinyl album "Ghost Reveries" was over £80 ) , so over the last few weeks have "blown the dust off" some musical gadgetry no longer used (effects paraphenalia, pa system, one guitar) to be able to snap up a few gems such as "Kings of Leon" debut album on 10" vinyl for £50 (staggering sound quality, a few veils away off the cd recording) which i wish i'd got when it was first released in 2003....
anyway something that came up on the news this morning made me feel a little better for my lack of foresight - the "Friends Reunited" website having been sold to an Independent TV Company for £175 million a few years ago was sold on by the company for... £20 million.....
...surely the worst investment in history?
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Unless you bought Love Beach, I guess
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 03:51 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Dean wrote:
James wrote:
So I know what it is. I just don't know any Polari. |
You do, you just don't know it: barney (fight), blag (pick-up), bod (body), khazi (w.c.), clobber (clothes), crimper (hairdresser), doss (bed, sleep), ogle (look), plates (feet), scarper (run away), schmutter (clothes), slap (cosmetics), todd (as in on your own) and zhoosh (as in zhooshing it up) all entered the english language from Polari. (according to Wiki) |
Some interesting ones there, but surely "Plates" comes from "Plates Of Meat"? I would have thought Cockney rhyming slang pre-dates Polari, unless there's something about the East End I wasn't aware of ( now I'm getting mental images I could do without, involving pearly queens & jellied eels...)
Also, I thought "schmutter" is a very old Yiddish word for clothing... Yiddish definitely predates Polari - unless you're implying...
No - don't even go there. |
Just reading what it says on Wiki... quite what the connection with fishmongers is puzzles me too... Strange lot those Eastenders, I wonder if that's why no mini-cab drivers would go norf of the river at night.
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 07:27 |
mystic fred wrote:
anyway something that came up on the news this morning made me feel a little better for my lack of foresight - the "Friends Reunited" website having been sold to an Independent TV Company for £175 million a few years ago was sold on by the company for... £20 million.....
...surely the worst investment in history?
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Pah, that's mere amateurish stuff compared to the mighty Sir Fred Goodwin's purchase of ABN Amro, which was largely responsible for RBS posting the largest corporate loss in history! Not even a billion lost, pathetic attempt. 
Edited by chopper - August 06 2009 at 08:06
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 16:35 |
Dean wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
Dean wrote:
James wrote:
So I know what it is. I just don't know any Polari. |
You do, you just don't know it: barney (fight), blag (pick-up), bod (body), khazi (w.c.), clobber (clothes), crimper (hairdresser), doss (bed, sleep), ogle (look), plates (feet), scarper (run away), schmutter (clothes), slap (cosmetics), todd (as in on your own) and zhoosh (as in zhooshing it up) all entered the english language from Polari. (according to Wiki) |
Some interesting ones there, but surely "Plates" comes from "Plates Of Meat"? I would have thought Cockney rhyming slang pre-dates Polari, unless there's something about the East End I wasn't aware of ( now I'm getting mental images I could do without, involving pearly queens & jellied eels...)
Also, I thought "schmutter" is a very old Yiddish word for clothing... Yiddish definitely predates Polari - unless you're implying...
No - don't even go there. |
Just reading what it says on Wiki... quite what the connection with fishmongers is puzzles me too... Strange lot those Eastenders, I wonder if that's why no mini-cab drivers would go norf of the river at night. |
S'funny, when I lived in in the East End no cab would go Sarf of the river at night 
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 17:14 |
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^ I know, I had to walk back form Dingwalls at 2 o'clock in the morning once.
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 17:49 |
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We used to go to the Marquee, deliberately miss the last tube, go to Trafalgar Square, get a kebab and then the N98 night bus back to Chadwell Heath. And Saturdays were a ritual. Dagenham Roundhouse, most often a really good band (Rory Gallagher, Lizzy, Can, loads more), chips as the Chinese was shutting and... a six-mile walk. Would i do it now? Would i f***  |
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 02:25 |
in the mid-70's my Saturday night ritual became all too predictable - 9pm meet up at a pub in Greenford, drive up to Hammersmith at 10, find a parking space round the back streets, make our way into the Palais, drink, chat up a few birds, drink, avoid the customary late night punch-up, make myself sick so i was "fit" enough to drive home avoiding the road works and the Police (not always successful)... 
one such night as i drove past Hammy Odeon i noticed "Hawkwind" advertised and decided it was time for a change of routine, dumped "the gang" and never looked back, the "gig bug " stayed to this day, a much more worthwhile pursuit
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 05:59 |
With me it was usually a gig Friday or Saturday, which 9 times out of 10 was either The Marquee, Hammersmith Odeon or St Albans City Hall (still one of my favorite venues) & on Sundays, the Powerhouse Heavy Metal Club in Hatfield where I could usually be seen playing my favorite (air) Gibson SG at the PA, or sitting down at my cherry red (air) Tama Artstar 12 piece kit (especially during 'Spirit Of Radio'  )
Happy days, happy days...
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 06:01 |
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Incidentally - interesting piece of info passed to me by Vicky earlier:
In about 30 minutes (UK time) it will be 12:34:56 7/8/9...
...and will not be again for another 1,000 years
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 11:35 |
Jim Garten wrote:
With me it was usually a gig Friday or Saturday, which 9 times out of 10 was either The Marquee, Hammersmith Odeon or St Albans City Hall (still one of my favorite venues) & on Sundays, the Powerhouse Heavy Metal Club in Hatfield where I could usually be seen playing my favorite (air) Gibson SG at the PA, or sitting down at my cherry red (air) Tama Artstar 12 piece kit (especially during 'Spirit Of Radio' )
Happy days, happy days... |
like this one, Jim?
didn't know you liked 'em...not a patch on the "air" version, though...
Edited by mystic fred - August 07 2009 at 11:37
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 12:32 |
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The worst experience that I had with post-gig travel was after I saw New Order at The Walthamstow Assembly Halls @ 1980. Their 2nd London date ever.I saw their 1st at Heaven, ex Global Village.Aaaanyway, I managed to get to London Bridge but missed the last bus back to Brockley, south east London.Night buses were few and far between in those days and didn't operate on Fridays.Well,at least not sarf of da riffer.The upshot was that I had to walk 8 miles home!
Most of the time I had no problems when I saw gigs at The Marquee or Hammy Odeon or when I visited my heavy metal discos of choice,Bananas in Wardour Street and The Garden Gate in Bethnal Green.
Edited by Man Erg - August 07 2009 at 12:34
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 13:02 |
FUNNY PLACE FOR A SHED...??
surprised the shed community let this one by - Boris Johnson, London's loony Tory Mayor has put his big foot in it again... 
The wooden summer house before it was removed from the balcony of Boris Johnson's home in Islington, London. Photograph: Daily Mirror
...now taken down by order of the local Council! 
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 13:07 |
^ at least you saw someone half decent - my walk across London from Dingwalls to Chislehurst was after seeing all-girl Pop Punk trio The Flatbackers...
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