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Easy Money 
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 Posted: June 23 2008 at 12:30 |
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Hey, I put up the first review of Black Tie White Noise and now the 'first review of this album' banner is no longer attached.
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Dean
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 12:40 |
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...that's because there are now two reviews - "1st review" means "only review"
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What?
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Easy Money
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 13:00 |
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Well ... of course ... I knew that ... Ok then, carry on 
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Easy Livin
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 13:46 |
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There's also a bug which means that if a rating only is added first, a review will not say "First review".
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debrewguy
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 11:44 |
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Next we'll be wondering why no mention of "best review"  |
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: June 25 2008 at 03:46 |
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We're all too modest in these parts to claim that one!
 
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The T
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Posted: June 27 2008 at 13:19 |
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Not really a crime against humanity but this review could use some corrections... at times is barely intelligible...
THRESHOLD — Extinct Instinct
Review by Mandrakeroot (Andrea Salvador)
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Pnoom!
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Posted: June 27 2008 at 18:42 |
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I'm not. |
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 16:04 |
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Meh...I think it conveys the feeling better than less offensive words could. |
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Chris S
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Posted: July 15 2008 at 22:25 |
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What a well written review - most enjoyable reading.
We can post positive feedback too right?
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...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: July 21 2008 at 06:31 |
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Not bad reviews per se - but I must admit I don't like the extensive use of copying and pasting - especially when those copy and pastes are railings against other reviewers - not specific ones, but in general - which is just as bad, IMHO, as it comes across as a complaint against this site, like "what do we know about Progressive Rock?".
It's also incredibly lazy and sloppy reviewing, IMHO - and, looking through this guy's other reviews, especially the reviews of Hawkwind, this style of having a go at the site for not knowing as much as he does about Prog Rock is a common factor, which I think constitutes a breaking of the rules he agreed to.
The other aspect is the continual "This is more progressive than X", without providing any kind of supporting evidence or explanation. OK, I admit, that just annoys the hell out of me - it's not abuse of the system... but it feels like it to me
 These two were the ones that drew my attention to this reviewer;
The offending text is;
"I'm very surprised to see that, on a website devoted to progressive rock, Deep Purple In Rock is ranked higher than..."
Also, play spot the difference;
"One of my biggest complaints against the In Rock album applies also to machine Head. They only contain one type of song, there are no ballads on these albums and the instrumentation are the same on all the tracks. Still, thin album has several great classic songs but these songs are much better live. This studio album in not very well recorded."
"One of my biggest complaints against the In Rock album was that it only contained one type of song (with the exception of Child In Time), there were no ballads on that album and the instrumentation was the same on all the tracks. On this album, which is overall more varied, Anyone's Daughter stands out with its more folksy leanings based on and piano and non-distorted guitar. "
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 21 2008 at 11:07 |
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Agree with your annoyance Certified, and add mine regarding the machine-gun pace of these "reviews" where we allow 8 or 10 reviews of this quality on our lead page at any given time. I've mentioned that whole issue several times.
Did anyone catch he gave "Lizard" 2 stars right after giving "We can't Dance" 3 stars?
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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micky
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Posted: July 21 2008 at 11:14 |
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the best fix.... though not the most popular.. .reserve the front page for colab reviews. Not that they are perfect ... but as our senior collabs know... the standards are much higher and consistantly 'poor' reviews from PR's... can be dealt with. For the general posters.. it is their 'right' as it were to review albums.. the site though... has the 'right' to determine which reviews.. or reviewers represent the site.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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AlexUC
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Posted: July 21 2008 at 11:24 |
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Right now the whole page is filled with 10 copy-paste reviews. I'm not sure if this is against the PA rules, but is clearly disgusting to see the same review ten times. This is not the first time this user do this. No offense intended
 is just for the good will of the site.http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177545 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177546 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177547 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177548 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177550 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177552 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177554 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177564 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177565 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=177566 |
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This is not my beautiful house...
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 21 2008 at 11:48 |
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Wouldn't the easiest fix be to send the offender a PM and tell them that if they do it again there will be consequences.
I'd hate to see the front page as only collab reviews. I think it would discourage new reviewers from coming onboard and lately some really good new reviewers have been showing up on the front page. |
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micky
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discourage?... hmm.. maybe those who were never going to write decent reviews to start with.. they'll piss and moan about their 'rights' and tyranny like spoiled brats.. forgetting this is a privately owned site. For those who do.. or would... all the incentive in the world to write better .. to get noticed... and promoted to PR status. as I said.. not a popular solution.. .but damn it would a) solve the problem you all have brought up....and b) encourage even better reviews from those who take their reviews seriously aren't just f**king with the ratings/rankings.. or just projectile vomitting reviews with no regard to the quality of them. Like the current member who is filling the front page If the 'problem' is bad enough... that is a perfectly good solution. If it isn't... then we take the bad reviews.. with the good. |
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 21 2008 at 12:24 |
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I would be willing to go with your idea of all high quality reviews on the front page if all collabs were held to a high standard and lost collab status if they wrote shallow reviews. I've seen some less than great reviews from collabs now and again. |
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micky
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yep... that would the caveat to it.... not that they have to write great reviews everytime.. but what they must do... is attempt to write good reviews... and any numbskull can tell the difference between those that do.. and don't. No one expects perfection... only to try to be the best you can be. Edited by micky - July 21 2008 at 12:29 |
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 21 2008 at 12:47 |
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Now there is two of them filling the front page with ... um nonsense. I guess the other guy didn't think Southy's reviews were bad enough and that southy needed some help dragging us down.
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micky
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there are a couple admins on... if they see it and think it is a problem.. they'll bring it up to M@X. Or start kicking someone's ass ... we only propose.. and illustrate the problem. We can't solve the problems .. only suggest what we think can fix it.
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If you love Black Sabbath in their more Prog effort this 'Extinct Instinct' is a good album. This sentence is good for the sound and in general for the rhythms and construction of the songs. But all here. The songs atre more modern and more close to Neo Prog. Said this, I think that this album is more than the type of album that I've describe from first to this point. In fact Damian Wilson (that return with Threshold for this 'Extinct insinct') transform these 10 normal songs in 10 good songs, because Damian's voice is sure great for the type of music of these 'Extinct Instinct'. the songs are close the pure (and genuine) Power Metal à la NWOBHM plas tons of Classic Prog. But no one second is Symphonic. The guitar are extreme good, with a very compressed sound that some material may remember Pantera (for sound, rhythmic and writing). 'Extinct Instinct' is in perfect balance between Doom Metal (sounds and construction) and Neo Prog (for all that is Prog) but, I repeat, is saved from the voice of Damian Wilson and from the extraordinary cover. 