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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 10:39
Originally posted by Deadwing12 Deadwing12 wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

rating the prog gods.

zeus

  • yes
  • king crimson
  • pink floyd
  • ELP
  • rush
  • genesis
  • jethro tull
  • frank zappa
  • gentle giant
  • tool

olympians

  • mahavishnu orchestra
  • traffic
  • uriah heep
  • gong
  • camel
  • marillion
  • dream theater
  • radiohead
  • primus
  • renaissance

titans

  • focus
  • spocks beard
  • hawkwind
  • the flower kings
  • captian beefheart and the magic band
  • aphrodites child
  • the straubs
  • van der graff generator
  • blackmores night
  • the moody blues

half gods

  • phish
  • caravan
  • magma
  • IQ
  • the nice
  • tangerine dream
  • mars volta
  • queensryche
  • soft machine
  • eloy

mere mortals

  • styx
  • asia
  • supertramp
  • allan parsons project
  • toto

 



HAHA I love it. Though you've got quite a lot of bands as one god (Zues) which I find somewhat puzzling .  But that's still a very good classification system, I must say, silly as it might be, it does get the point across perfectly (the fact that its missing a bunch of great bands can be overlooked )

P.S. Mars Volta should be higher!!!!

Zeus was known to take many forms in his day, so boo boo is right on.  I agree that TMV should be higher, at least a titan, but I like his placement of Tool and primus in that list. 

good stuff man!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 10:42
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

Originally posted by Deadwing12 Deadwing12 wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

rating the prog gods.

zeus

  • yes
  • king crimson
  • pink floyd
  • ELP
  • rush
  • genesis
  • jethro tull
  • frank zappa
  • gentle giant
  • tool

olympians

  • mahavishnu orchestra
  • traffic
  • uriah heep
  • gong
  • camel
  • marillion
  • dream theater
  • radiohead
  • primus
  • renaissance

titans

  • focus
  • spocks beard
  • hawkwind
  • the flower kings
  • captian beefheart and the magic band
  • aphrodites child
  • the straubs
  • van der graff generator
  • blackmores night
  • the moody blues

half gods

  • phish
  • caravan
  • magma
  • IQ
  • the nice
  • tangerine dream
  • mars volta
  • queensryche
  • soft machine
  • eloy

mere mortals

  • styx
  • asia
  • supertramp
  • allan parsons project
  • toto

 



HAHA I love it. Though you've got quite a lot of bands as one god (Zues) which I find somewhat puzzling .  But that's still a very good classification system, I must say, silly as it might be, it does get the point across perfectly (the fact that its missing a bunch of great bands can be overlooked )

P.S. Mars Volta should be higher!!!!

Zeus was known to take many forms in his day, so boo boo is right on.  I agree that TMV should be higher, at least a titan, but I like his placement of Tool and primus in that list. 

good stuff man!

thats  a hilarious rating system I like it a lot

we proggers are kind of mythology nerds.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 11:59
Easy - Tight Fit



Or maybe King Crimson (I'm not sure).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 12:19
Originally posted by G.Baldin G.Baldin wrote:

GENTLE GIANT

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 13:21
Originally posted by Sekkyoku Sekkyoku wrote:

YES.

Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull are not on the same level as the truly important progressive rock bands, such as Yes, Gentle Giant, KC and ELP. Especially not Pink Floyd. Compares with Yes, or any of the others, they are just a boring rock band.

BUDDY THAT IS YOUR PERSONAL OPINION, THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE RIGHT.

FLOYD STARTED EVERYTHING MY PERSONAL, BUT THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION,  THAT DOES NOT MEAN I AM RIGHT. JUST BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE A ROCK BAND I DO NOT NOCK THEM OUT OR I WON'T RECONIZE THEIR POSITION IN THE PROG WORLD BUDDY. I DO NOT LIKE MUCH GENTLE GIANT I THINK IS SELF-INDULGENT TO THE TOP , BUT THEY HAVE A VERY SPECIAL PLACE IN THE PROG WORLD AND FUSION. YES AND ELP HAVE A LOT REAL BAD ALBUMS FLOYD MAYBE (ONE) SPECIALLY YES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE ALBUMS THAN ELP, BUT YES HAVE SOME REAL BRILLIANT ALBUMS TOO. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT PROG ROCK WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT YES OR ELP.

FLOYD WAS NOT ABOUT VISTOUSITY MUSICIANSHIP SHOW OFF LIKE YES, GENTLE GIANT OR ELP SPECIALLY ELP, BUT THEY WERER ABOUT OTHER THINGS. LIKE THE SEARCH OF EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC  AND LATER  THEY WERE ABOUT THE SEARCHING OF HUMAN FEELINGS  SPECIALLY ROGERS ALBUMS. I THINK I SAID ANOUGH, BUT KEEP YOUR PERSONAL OPINION LIMITED

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 13:28
Originally posted by Proglover Proglover wrote:

Here are the things you guys should keep in mind.

1, Quality of composition

2, Technical ability of the band members

3, Historical and Musical Importance

4, Is there a good balance between composition (writing technique), and virtuosity (technical playing)

5, The most adventurous band: In other words, the "proggiest" band

6, The most cohesive band....do the band members form a tight unit

7, Longevity

8, The most intellectual / cerebral band

9, Best Stage Show

10, Lyrical content

11, Best Frontman / leadsinger

12, Does the band sound better live or on recordings

13, The most EFFECTIVE band: what band achieves the most given their goal

14, If you could be a member of any of the listed bands what band would it be and why

Just to give you guys some things to keep in mind......keep it going...this is GREAT!!

THAT IS !!!

P I N K   F L O Y D

OR !!!!

K I N G  C R I M S O N

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 13:37
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I'm sorry but this thread is silly.

Who is the best film actor of all time:

Keanu Reeves,Tom Cruise,John Wayne,John Gielgud or Humphrey Bogart ?

Notice the problem with this question.....?

 

 

well, sure it's silly if you're trying to find a definitive answer to 'who's the best of all time?' because there simply isnt one.

however, it is interesting to see each person's opinion and their reasoning behind itm which i

why such a forum exists.

for me, King Crimson is number one.  I love all those bands but i really think KC were the ones who really defined what it means to be progressive rock.  Their music is complex, beautiful, interesting, but with a touch of fun to take the edge off.  truly brilliant.

 

CAN'T AGREE MORE KING CRIMSON IS THE ONLY BAND FROM THE 70'S THAT TRUELY NEVER STOP MAKING PROG ROCK ALBUMS EVEN THEIR 80'S STUFF IS GREAT MAYBE YOU WANNA CALL IT POP PROG BUT IS WAS GREAT AND FRESH. KING CRIMSON THESE ARE MAKING AMAZING PROG ROCK ALBUMS.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 13:53
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by darksideone darksideone wrote:

Originally posted by bamba bamba wrote:

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

IMO:

King Crimson invented it

Yes made it thouroughly enjoyable

Genesis mastered it

I think the Nice really invented

I agree

disagree  why ?

i would say pink floyd

invented it

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn

atom heart mother

sauserful of secrets

ummagumma

meddle

later made it enjoyable

the wall

momentary lapse of reason

divison bell

more

obscure by cloud 

the final cut

( these guys have albums that literally would make you cry  fcking amazing check the final cut !!!)

and last mastered it

dark side of the moon

wish you were here

animals (the most progressive)

there will be no other band like floyd ever !!!!!!

OK, I knew when i was writing my first post, that there would be trouble with who invented prog. Truly, I don't care who invented it. But in my mind (anyone can have an opinion) KC were the first.

And concerning The Piper at The Gates of Dawn: I don't think this is a very prog album. Perhaps "Astronomy Domine" and "Interstellar Overdrive" (IMO pointless song, not the best on the cd) could be prog, but overall it is a pop album, albeit a skewed one with fantasy subject matter that would have a tough time finding its way onto the radio. 

Saucerful of Secrets may be a bit more proggish, but I wouldn't call it the first prog album.

Atom Heart Mother's title track is the only prog song on the album IMO, but I like "Fat Old Sun" more.

Besides Animals, Ummagumma may be Pink Floyd's most prog album, but I believe it came too late to be the first in prog.

As for the rest, I think it's art rock with flourishes of prog. Except for The Wall, that pure classic rock. The Final Cut is a Waters solo album at it's best.

OK I DO NOT LIKE TO ARGUEE ABOUT MY PESONAL OPINION BUT OK THAT THE FIEST FLOYD ALBUM HAVE SOME POP SONG,BUT THAT WAS SUGESTED BUY THE RECORD COMPANY  SO THEY CAN MAKE MONEY AND MAKE THE FLOYD A POP BAND BUT IN 1966 BEFORE GENESIS GENTLE GIANT, YES, KING CRIMSON THE NICE, CAMEL AND THE REST FOYD BESIDE SOFT MACHINE WARE KING OF THE FREAK OUT WORLD THEY WERE THE ONLY BAND THAT WHEN THEY PLAY LIVE THEY DID NOT CARE ABOUT THIER HIT SINGLE OR DID NOT WANT TO PLEASE THEIR AUDIENCES THEY JUST WANTED TO JAM AND CREAT SOME FREAK OUT MUSIC. THEIR OF PROG BANDS WERE WEARING DIAPERS.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 14:25

 

So once again here are your choices...YES, King Crimson, ELP, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Van Der Graaf Generator.

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I'm glad you throw in VDGG at the last minute but how can you leave out Rush, Kansas and Camel?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 14:27

Very hard to put order numbers, but let it be :

PINK FLOYD

KING CRIMSON

JETHRO TULL

YES

GENESIS

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER

CAMEL

 

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I know every scene by heart, they all went by so fast.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2005 at 03:41

But, Darksideone, isnīt the idea with forums that you are supposed to ventilate your personal opinions, to see what reactions they cause? If people agree or not.
However, I did not mean thereīs someting wrong with Pink Floyd fans, but it is my personal opinion that the band is rather boring to listen to.

Take care.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2005 at 03:51
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

How may times do we need top go over this? The 'best' prog bands are as follows:

 

ELP

Rush

Genesis

Pink Floyd

Yes

Jethro Tull

King Crimson

Gentle Giant

Van Der Graaf Generator

Camel

Focus

 

Put them in whatever order you choose,but that is your lot.Anyone that thinks any other bands can touch those is wrong! (and in that I include one of my own personal faves IQ as well as all the neo prog bands and symphonic bands of the eighties and nineties ...as well as Dream Theater,Gong etc LOL)

Now carry on your pointless discussion

you are right,richardh

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2005 at 21:44

Genesis has always been my favorite. Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Live, S.E.B.T.P., T.L.L.D.O.B., A.T.O.T.T., Wind and Wuthering, Seconds Out, and the live tracks from both Archives are staples of my prog listening. Even though they did "progress" (commercially speaking), on each and every album they released since " And Then There Were Three", they've always retained their sound (think progressive here). Most of their best stuff never got much airplay. (ie. Deep In the Motherlode, Duchess, Dodo/Lurker, Second Home By the Sea, Domino: The Last Domino, The Brazilian, Fading Lights). Banks (one of the best ever on the keyboards , imho), Rutherford and Collins have withstood the test of time. (longevity)

My second favorite, though not on the list,  has been Marillion (Fish era). Misplaced Chilhood is high on my list of all-time best listening.

Third is King Crimson, especially with Tony Levin (best ever) and Bill Bruford in the band. These guys sound exceptional live.

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