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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 02:49
Great performance by the Poteet HS Ensemble! the lady singer lacked a bit of conviction but anyway congratulations to them, this piece of music is really great training for percussionists.
 
Don't know if you have seen this one (1st Impression Pt 2 only but it's a curiosity)
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 10:51
Yeah, one thing I can say about ELP is that no other prog band is covered so much
by other semi and official serious types -- you see their work learned quite often by school
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 10:56
Another thing I'll say is that I've learned though the internet that prog sure has it's share of the "greasy spoon"
department.  I made up that term to describe some friends of mine in my youth who really like the Velvet Underground and the like and hated prog.  I see that there is a similar faction in prog, people liking choatic, negative stuff,  which sounds to some like great music because its "difficult" and angular sounding and thus in some way
progressive.  To me, it sounds completely regressive.  One probably needs to be using foreign substances quite a bit to stay liking that kind of music.  But you know, there is the same kind of faction in serious or "classical" music.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 11:02
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

One probably needs to be using foreign substances quite a bit to stay liking that kind of music. 


No, overexposure to conventional harmony to the point where it gets deathly boring is a much better drug than any foreign substance for that purpose. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 13:36
Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

How do you spell pretentious?
 
 
Yes I guess you could say that, but in any case he's a fine guitar player, among the skilled shredders he's one I respect for being super-professional, and it's nice of him to render Karn Evil 9.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 13:43
Just got into them recently...

I love Take a Pebble, Knife's Edge, and Emerson's Piano Concerto
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 14:17
Originally posted by Josh18293 Josh18293 wrote:

Just got into them recently...

I love Take a Pebble, Knife's Edge, and Emerson's Piano Concerto
 
I love a lot of ELP, you seem to be more on the mellow / classical side of things, you should check Trilogy out (if you didn't yet), it has some of Emerson's most inspired moments in piano and classical stuff (The Endless Enigma, Trilogy). You would also probably like Pictures At An Exhibition unless you are a purist thinking that classical works should not get rock treatment.
 
And if you like the harder stuff Tarkus and Brain Salad are must-haves.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 14:53
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by Josh18293 Josh18293 wrote:

Just got into them recently...

I love Take a Pebble, Knife's Edge, and Emerson's Piano Concerto
 
I love a lot of ELP, you seem to be more on the mellow / classical side of things, you should check Trilogy out (if you didn't yet), it has some of Emerson's most inspired moments in piano and classical stuff (The Endless Enigma, Trilogy). You would also probably like Pictures At An Exhibition unless you are a purist thinking that classical works should not get rock treatment.
 
And if you like the harder stuff Tarkus and Brain Salad are must-haves.
Practically impossible to avoid a cover version of a classical work with them. My fave is ELPowell's rendition of Mars, the Bringer of War.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 15:10
Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Practically impossible to avoid a cover version of a classical work with them. My fave is ELPowell's rendition of Mars, the Bringer of War.
 
Love that one too!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 15:35
People are so mean to ELP because it can be self-indulgent and sometimes over elaborate, but for my money, they set new standards for others to follow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 15:45
I couldn't imagine any serious fan of progressive rock, especially the classic 70's stiuff, at least not having a couple of their albums. I may not listen to them all the time these days, but their debut album is one of my absolute favourites, and it wouldn't even occur to me to cash them in or get rid of them.

Within the last few months I've bought the remastered editions of `Trilogy' and `Pictures At An Exhibition' (which was actually the first time I'd ever heard that one, and I love it!), plus I've really come to think that the E.L.Powell album is really rather good, and probably their best album since `Brain Salad...'

Between you and me, I was also hugely excited to come across a discounted remastered CD copy of `Love Beach' for $2.99 Australian a few weeks back (my mate looked on in horror! ) at a local music shop. Not a great album, but I do defend lots of bits of it!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 16:59
ELP were, and still are, an inspiration
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2012 at 21:28
I recently heard Trilogy and it is a great album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2012 at 03:38
Although ELP certainly deserved some of the flak they attracted, I'm always a little bit disappointed at the dismissive attitude of some younger proggers towards them. The trio encapsulated everything that is wonderful, horrifying, sad and funny about Progressive Rock in the 70's and beyond. Why is it that artists who invented clichés are always blamed for their successors repeating them?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2012 at 11:02
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Another thing I'll say is that I've learned though the internet that prog sure has it's share of the "greasy spoon"
department.  I made up that term to describe some friends of mine in my youth who really like the Velvet Underground and the like and hated prog.  I see that there is a similar faction in prog, people liking choatic, negative stuff,  which sounds to some like great music because its "difficult" and angular sounding and thus in some way
progressive.  To me, it sounds completely regressive.  One probably needs to be using foreign substances quite a bit to stay liking that kind of music.  But you know, there is the same kind of faction in serious or "classical" music.





I have wondered a bit about thisLOL
 
ELP though often get dissed because they were theatrical in approach and appeared to lack any sense of irony about themselves (the usual 'pretentious' criticism that been going for decades) . What annoys me though sometimes is the myth that ELP were the only pretentious band in prog that were successful.
 
IMO 'Classic prog' was built more on compositions than performances. Tarkus is still an amazing peice of music as are several ELP tracks. There are modern bands that I like (Muse top the list) but they havn't a hope in hell of doing anything as brilliant as that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2012 at 11:27
Whatever their faults (and who doesn't have them?), they are still one of the big beasts of prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2012 at 00:47
Perhaps you guys can please help me!

Has anyone seen a live DVD called `Pictures At An Exhibition - Special Edition' (I think) which states on the back `the most complete live presentation of the album' etc? The front cover is very similar to the album sleeve but with pictures of the band.

Does that mean that some of the footage has been lost/damaged, or was never shot? Is the quality of the available footage on that DVD decent?

It's only $10 (I really should have just grabbed the damn thing while I was there, but I'd already grabbed some other stuff), but is it worth my time going back to get it?

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2012 at 01:18
^ The only thing I know about that is that I paid a fortune for a Japanese import DVD of the whole 1970 Lyceum gig from which the DVD of Pictures At At Exhibition came from. It includes The Barbarian, Take A Pebble, Knife Edge and Rondo as well as PAAE.
From about 1972 ELP only played a shortened version of PAAE like the version on Works Live (In Concert) which was approx 20 minutes so I think the DVD is referring to an earlier complete performance like the Lyceum gig , most likely that gig as I'm not aware of any other concert footage of ELP playing the complete version.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2012 at 03:10
Thanks Richard! That might be it! I've looked a bit further into it, and I seem to be reading a lot about obtrusive visual production and graphics on it, does that sound right?!

I've never actually seen any proper footage of ELP in their vintage prime, so I was very interested!
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