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Poll Question: What genre do proggers dislike the most?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2009 at 17:37
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

I just don't see how cutting and pasting previousely existing material together is anywhere near the quality of writing and playing instruments yourself.


In terms of writing:

digging through old sources
finding pieces that go together
modifying them
combining disparate sources into a cohesive whole
having songs evolve over time
having songs tell a story (only some do this)

It's a different skill set than normal songwriting, but just as valid.


In terms of playing:

If you do it on the computer, not much (however, it's worth noting that much non-sampled music can be done on the computer as well)
If you do it live with turntables, getting everything in the right place at the right time can be incredibly difficult (which is why Kid Koala is such a virtuoso).  It's one of those things that seems easier than it actually is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2009 at 20:38
I love all of those genres and I hate all of those genres. Out of that list I chose rap just because of the grueling stupidity that flows from most of it and how it enslaved the entire generation I'm apart of but there is some great hip-hop out there. DAMN did it take a lot of digging though!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2009 at 00:07
to the poster who wondered what genre Culture Club belong to, i would say that i believe they are a New Romantic group that sprung out of that androgynous nightclub in London, though the name evades me at the moment.  also, Annie Lennox's "David Bowie" look from the same era was also inspired by the fashion and sensibilities of the New Romantic movement.  wow, that was a mouthful, time for the Listerine!Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2009 at 00:12
also, for those interested, there has been a revival of the New Romantic ethos around the globe in recent years, i believe they call it RoMo, or ROMO or something to that affect; also don't be a schoolmarm and give me a lecture concerning what context one should use "affect" over "effect" this is just an internet forum you know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2009 at 10:08
hasheten, please change your font to something a little easier on the eyes next time.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2009 at 10:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2009 at 10:20
Dance, R&B, Rap & most Punk
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2009 at 07:57
Rap,reggaeton ,Cumbia ,Vallenato a nd sex pistols punk
Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2009 at 16:46

I dislike almost all, except for Pop, Rock'n'Roll and Classical Music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2009 at 15:03
Originally posted by InvisibleUnicorns InvisibleUnicorns wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

I just don't see how cutting and pasting previousely existing material together is anywhere near the quality of writing and playing instruments yourself.


In terms of writing:

digging through old sources
finding pieces that go together
modifying them
combining disparate sources into a cohesive whole
having songs evolve over time
having songs tell a story (only some do this)

It's a different skill set than normal songwriting, but just as valid.


In terms of playing:

If you do it on the computer, not much (however, it's worth noting that much non-sampled music can be done on the computer as well)
If you do it live with turntables, getting everything in the right place at the right time can be incredibly difficult (which is why Kid Koala is such a virtuoso).  It's one of those things that seems easier than it actually is.


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Truth yo.
And this is being backed up by someone who plays guitar on a regular basis hoping to be a guitar virtuoso eventually.
Turntablism is not easy stuff at all.
Anyone can just try and do it, and chances are, they'll just be off time.
A good, serious DJ has the timing, creativity, technical ability, hand eye coordination, control and ear for subtle details that any good musician playing the piano, the guitar, trombone or whatever has, because it's truly a learned skill just the same.
Maybe doesn't sound musical to some people's ears, but hell, classical musicians can say that a band of heavy metal virtuosos playing technical metal is not musical either.
It's all music, just a matter of whether one likes it or not, and not just any retard can spin the turntables and kick ass.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2009 at 15:15
Techno is the most disgusting sh*t ever invented. There is simply nothing enjoyable in that destructive, aggressive "music"-incarnation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2009 at 15:15
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I don't despise any genre.


You despise Reggae though:P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2009 at 16:16
Originally posted by Diaby Diaby wrote:

Techno is the most disgusting sh*t ever invented. There is simply nothing enjoyable in that destructive, aggressive "music"-incarnation.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2009 at 02:26
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I don't despise any genre.


You despise Reggae though:P


I don't despise it ... it's just not one of my favorite genres.Embarrassed


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2009 at 20:59
If I don't like some music types then I don't listen to it. I give Rap another vote because to me it is not music - it is all about the lyrics which contain a lot of violence and sexism. The other very annoying quality is unless you are familiar with Rap-speak, it is incredibly hard work trying to understand what the piece is all about anyway. Confused.
 
I also think Rap has contributed to "pulling-down" a whole generation of kids and turning them into anti-social outcasts. Not good and dangerous to say the least!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2009 at 15:10
'Alternative' for me...  For almost all the other genres, even in the ones I don't generally care for, I can think of at least one song that I do like.  (There is, or has been, good rap, good country, even good dance!  And I don't like Grunge, but I can't claim to hate it...)  But 'Alternative'... it's very name sounds generic. Confused  This is what fills up the radio nowadays: yes, there's plenty of annoying cheap pop and dance, and swaggering rap, but at least that kind of music is a lot less self-important and far catchier than all of those so-called 'Alternative' types droning on and making like they're serious musogeniusesUnhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2009 at 17:38
I´m going to second the guy who said factory pop. All that derivative and mass produced stuff that is aimed straight at an undiscriminating audience that consists mainly of 13-year old girls, where the artist might be able to sing and definitely can dance but wouldn't be able to write a song if her/his life depended on it. Created by marketing teams and coke head producers with not one iota of artistic vision or ambition other than to "sell, sell, SELL" ... Hated it since I was a wee lad some 27-28 years ago (I remember Jellybean and Stock, Aiken & Waterman being the bane of my life in my early teens) and still do, with a passion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2009 at 00:34
Greg Allmann once said that rap is short for crap. I would concur!

Death metal a close second.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2009 at 00:52
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

'Alternative' for me...  For almost all the other genres, even in the ones I don't generally care for, I can think of at least one song that I do like.  (There is, or has been, good rap, good country, even good dance!  And I don't like Grunge, but I can't claim to hate it...)  But 'Alternative'... it's very name sounds generic. Confused  This is what fills up the radio nowadays: yes, there's plenty of annoying cheap pop and dance, and swaggering rap, but at least that kind of music is a lot less self-important and far catchier than all of those so-called 'Alternative' types droning on and making like they're serious musogeniusesUnhappy



Definite alternative.
According to some definitions, alternative encompasses math rock and post rock.
You will not hear math rock and post rock being played on mainstream radio stations.
Math rock is highly virtuosic music and you'll find it hardly sounds like 'generic alternative' radio friendly rock
I also find it interesting you have 55 plays of Earth in your last FM profile, yet the band regular incorporates post rock in their sound, yet funnily enough, you apparently hate alternative, so you must hate post rock tooWink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2009 at 00:56
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Greg Allmann once said that rap is short for crap. I would concur!

Death metal a close second.

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Some people would also argue Greg Allman is irrelevant and his opinion is worth sh*t all. I'm not saying I'm one of them, but you make it sound as if suddenly his opinion is so much more meaningful than others and somehow more correct.
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