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glass house
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 14:16 | ||||||||||||||
What problems, may a mere mortal know ?
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 14:22 | ||||||||||||||
Well ... We have check what bands to keep to be and what remove from RPI. It is a big dirty work taking into account that in many cases we only have some bio and some review ...
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glass house
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 14:24 | ||||||||||||||
Well, have fun with the problems. In spite of that I'm still enjoying Le Orme.
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Dirk
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 15:44 | ||||||||||||||
^ I've always had some problems fully appreciating Le orme's music, from Felona e sorona i love the first hammond driven song and also some passages within but i always found the final lacking of pure melody. Uomo di pezza has very good acoustic passages but to me the hammond passages always felt a bit aimless. Good chance this'll change in the future , i used to have similar thoughts about Luxade, now i love it. Will give my 2 Le orme albums another chance tonight.
2 other oldies i got recently are Metamorfosi's Inferno and Semiramis's Dedicato a Frazz. Great albums both, i slightly prefer the mellotron/guitar based Dedicato to the more hammond based Inferno but i think any italian prog lover needs both albums. |
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paolo.beenees
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 15:48 | ||||||||||||||
Dirk, try with "Contrappunti" and "Collage". I've always found them far better than "Felona..." and "Uomo di Pezza".
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Dirk
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 16:16 | ||||||||||||||
^ I'll try in good time. I was impressed by your review of QVL's Il tempo della gioia btw, good description of the music.. It's my favorite italian album so i don't fully agree with the final assesment that their first album is better.Then again from all the people i know everyone seems to like their first effort better, maybe have to start a poll about that.
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paolo.beenees
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 16:24 | ||||||||||||||
I don't know... the fact is that I've always liked a little instinctiveness in prog rock. For the same reason (and by saying that I could be flogged ) I like The Nice more than ELP. You know, it's just a matter of tastes. See you on these pages again!
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glass house
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 17:08 | ||||||||||||||
Dirk: Semiramis is one of my favorites.And yes you talked before about the first and second one of QVL. You should indeed start a thread about it.
paolo.beenees : That's taste for you, I think Felona and Uomo are better than the ones you mentioned, not that it matters.
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paolo.beenees
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 17:16 | ||||||||||||||
On the contrary, it does! I like exchanging opinions, and if it doesn't bother you, I'm going to explain mine. "Collage" has got that instinctiveness I mentioned above which makes this album to my ears fresh still today, while "Contrappunti" shows a very daring band, in my opinion more self conscious and controlled than in Felona. After all, Le Orme are the first Italian prog band I've ever listened to, and my favourite one since then!
Bye.
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Dirk
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 17:22 | ||||||||||||||
Tony, a poll should be enough i think, i listened to QVL's first effort some time ago and it's also very good indeed. I heard from Antennas that the VDGG concert was really great, she was so convincing that i regret now that i never made a real effot to get into their musc sofar.
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glass house
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 17:24 | ||||||||||||||
PB: I don't mind infact i like it. I haven't quite got the elaborate explanation that you do, but when I listen to lets say your cd's I'm easily distracted and find myself doing other things. Not that i dislike them. When I play mine I listen to them very concetrated. On the other hand I think that at some times Uomo could be a little fiercer. That would make it a perfect cd.
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glass house
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 17:27 | ||||||||||||||
A poll is ok, I just hope people will explain their decision. VDGG: if it is not really your music a concert could be too much. But from that concert i started to respect them even more. It indeed was a great great concert. I loved the way Karin was expressing her enthusiasm. At some point she was even headbanging .
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friűl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: April 20 2007 at 02:43 | ||||||||||||||
This is a very masterpiece of the Italian Prog:
OPUS AVANTRAVenetia Et Anima (by Donella Del Monaco & Paolo Troncon; Opus Avantra)(Studio Album, 2004)
Track Listings1. Santa Mater (An Der Grousser) Line-up/Musicians- Donella Del Monaco / voice Releases informationCD OpusAvantra Studium S.a.r.L., 32 rue L'Aveugle L- 1148 Luxembourg (OPUS 005)This is the new album of Opus Avantra, but accredited, in cover, at Donella Del Monaco & Paolo Troncon [main performed and composer] Opus Avantra. Review by Mandrakeroot (Andrea Salvador) COLLABORATOR Italian Prog Specialist
My review is produced using this release: OpusAvantra Studium S.a.r.L (OPUS005) Posted Sunday, April 01, 2007, 11:09 EST | Permanent link For info and orders please visit: www.donelladelmonaco.com |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 08:42 | ||||||||||||||
This is a symphonic band fron Friuli Venezia Giulia (That, like obviousn I didn't know, but I know the drummer!!! And done not hang that in this world is weird thing!!!)
Barrock http://digilander.libero.it/barrock/ This is the barrock story:
The group was founded in 1982, following the experience in classical music of the three original solo singers, Paola Polese, Graziella Vendramin and Laura Ivan, together with Valter Poles and Giuseppe Vendramin. Their search for rock innovation and for other kinds of musical influences led the group to the choice of a new rhythmic background. For this reason Maurizio Poles (drums player– Valter’s brother) and Giampaolo Poles (bass player - Valter’s and Maurizio’s cousin) joined the group. They were in fact an experienced rhythmic couple playing with local groups. In 1985 a cassette recording containing the first Barrock’s works happened to be listened by the owner of a local recording studio. He was enthusiastic with the music and offered his collaboration for a professional recording of the group’s songs. The demo spread all over Italy, meeting favourable interest in the musical press. The Barrock were soon considered among the leading groups in Italian progressive rock and their participation in Exposure, the Dutch compilation released world-wide by ANDRAEA crt – Rotterdam, represented the international introduction of the group. In Exposure, the Barrock played “The Witch”, an instrumental and visionary rock song which is highly experimental. The Japanese Company releasing the compilation in Japan, Spring Song Corporation, was really interested in this new sound and offered collaboration for the CD recording. In 1991 the album titled L’Alchimista was released world-wide and got good success and favourable comments, particularly in Korea. Several record companies have been really interested in the Italian group. In 1994 the Dutch Company SI Music produced Oxian, the second Barrock’s CD. One year later SI Music went bankrupt, so the Barrock had to find a new record company. The Italian Mellow Records released the latest album of the group, La Strega. It is an almost exclusively instrumental work, with the exception of two solo pieces which have been vocalized by Paola Polese. Graziella Vendramin didn’t take part in the recording of this album due to her working abroad as a solo jazz singer. and this is the discography: Barrock discografia ufficiale - Official discography
Excuse me for the yellow color of the written but I linked from the internet site of the band and it there isn't manner of to change color P.s.: Is in PA!!! Edited by Mandrakeroot - April 20 2007 at 09:25 |
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paolo.beenees
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 09:35 | ||||||||||||||
I'll try to suggest two names to add to PA.
The first one is Tito Schipa jr. He's the son of the famous tenor Tito Schipa, and in the end of the 1960 (1967, to be precise) he started to experiment bringing rock into theatres in Rome in the form of musicals. By 1970 he managed to perform the first "rock opera", always in Rome: it was the first version of his well known ORFEO 9. This very project would develop and in 1972 Tito Schipa jr gathered a remarkable band around him (Joel van Droogenbroek from Brainticket, Tullio de Piscopo, Loredana Bertč, Renato Zero, Edoardo Nevola among the others) and recorded the whole rock opera under the direction of Billy Conti (some years later, Conti will gain world fame by composing the hugely successful score to the film "Rocky") as co-producer and orchestral arranger. ORFEO 9 is a real jewel in Italian Rock, and has a lot to do with Italian Symphonic Prog, of course. It could be seen as a sort of natural consequence of Moody Blues's "Days of Future Passed", but with a more modern approach. The story plot developes properly, lyrics are beautiful and the music is simply impressive, ranging from the jazzy "Invito" to the proto-heavy metal of "La Cittŕ Fatta Inferno", with "Eccotela qui" as an outstanding climax, delicate acoustic passages, an unforgettable tune, sampled voices directly from the street... All in this work deserves entering PA.
The other band I want to talk about is TIMORIA. Back in the 1990s they were one of the strongest Italian rock bands, normally regarded as a classic rock outfit or a hard rock one, actually displaying many points in common with prog rock. They were not virtuosos, and throughout their whole carreer they kept close to the "song format". Nevertheless, tunes, arrangements, the use of concepts retain a strong 1970 Italian prog rock flavour (maybe devoided of its most complex structures and passages). "Viaggio Senza Vento" - maybe their masterpiece - has got many points in common with Orfeo 9 (and therefore I have associated the two bands) and stands out as one of the most impressive efforts in Italian Rock. Timoria also featured (until their Eta Beta album) the singer Francesco Renga, one of the most beautiful Italian voices ever - Foreign press regarded him as the successor of Demetrio Stratos (well, Renga hasn't got such an advantgard approach).
What do you think?
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: April 22 2007 at 13:20 | ||||||||||||||
TIMORIA PROG??? Oh my god... Sincerely is a good Rock band... But not Prog!!!
TITO SCHIPA Jr.: Write a post in the section of the Suggestion New Band. I abstain, in this case. Edited by Mandrakeroot - April 22 2007 at 13:23 |
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Planet_Gong
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Posted: April 25 2007 at 13:49 | ||||||||||||||
timoria aren't prog, maybe they are rock...
now,after many listen i review Guy Fawkes's Colors.
01 - La Parola
02 - Have You Seen The Roses? There's A Whole Lot Of Colours 03 - Chromophore 04 - M G 05 - I Like To Piss Like A Fighetta 06 - Synćsthesia 07 - Loud Shirt, Bitter Wind or Prickly Laugh 08 - Funk U'l 09 - Sad Song For Happy People 10 - Color Blindness 11 - Happy Song For Sad People 12 - Giant Pencil 13 - Azure 14 - Not To Die But To Be Reborn 15 - Deep Blue 16 - Everything Is Made Of Meeeetal 17 - Centaurea Cyanus 18 - A Tout Jamais 19 - In The Land Of Red And Blue the album takes cue from the idea of Platone that supported that the world was constituted according to musical principles and the entire life of the man was dominated from the harmony and the rhythm.
So in the 19 songs that form this album, are various, references of the musical infuences in the life, and finds various musical genre, from the crimsonian prog of the second track "Have You Seen The Roses? There' s To Whole Lot Of Colours" to the swing, the jazz of the "Like To Piss Like To Fighetta", "A Tout Jamais", "Happy Song For Sad People", to the pyschedelic hard-rock of Jimi Hendrix "Not To Die But To Be Reborn", "In The Land Of Red And Blue" to metal "Everything Is Made Of Meeeetal" to the more melancholic blues "M G", "Sad Song For Happy People", "Deep Blue". Concluding, this album is more beautifull than the first works, you can easilly listen to it and it is sure a good point of departure for future jobs. 3,5 stars |
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paolo.beenees
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Posted: April 25 2007 at 15:02 | ||||||||||||||
I'm listening to Baffo "J.B." Banfi's (former Biglietto per l'Inferno member) debut "Galaxy my Dear". Finally I've discovered an Italian man who could stand comparison with any other members of the Progressive Electronic section. The strongest influences come from post-Moondawn Klaus Schultze and Ricochet/Stratosfear-era Tangerine Dream, with some hints of Vangelis and J.M. Jarre. This album is not so original, but has got really good stuff inside. Keyboards, sequencers and electronics in general are skillfully played, melodies are fully enjoyable and the general result is modern and convincing (IMO, far, far better than Sangiuliano's Take Off, from the same year). He really needs to be included in PA.
By the way, Timoria, in general, aren't prog, but their "Viaggio Senza Vento" really deserves to be included in a Italian Progressive Rock thread. Just give it a listen...
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friűl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: April 25 2007 at 15:29 | ||||||||||||||
Banfi is in the addition list from a lot of time. But it is one of those possible inclusions that every so often also could be taken in consideration but that then return in the oblivion.
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: April 25 2007 at 15:44 | ||||||||||||||
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