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Poll Question: Nominate one song, and vote for three.
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
5 [18.52%]
3 [11.11%]
3 [11.11%]
1 [3.70%]
2 [7.41%]
2 [7.41%]
2 [7.41%]
0 [0.00%]
1 [3.70%]
1 [3.70%]
4 [14.81%]
2 [7.41%]
0 [0.00%]
1 [3.70%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]
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Another cool enjoyable selection here and once more I have a hard time deciding. The one that hit me strongest is the very first one "Malembe". Apart from that there are many good ones that deserve a vote. Black Bombain is very solid good music with a strong dynamical element. I didn't get much out of Tinariwen when listening to it for the first time but it has become better and better and now I am very much tempted to vote for it. King Sunny Ade - I don't like how it starts and missed at first listening (while doing other things) how much this turns into something very enjoyable with its long instrumental part. The Mau Mau one always gives me a good mood. The three tracks I already knew, of Seckou Keita, Ali Farke Toure, and Manu Dibango are all amazing (probably Seckou Keita just about wins among them), but I won't vote for them to make my job easier. The Pili Pili one, at repeat listening, is good, but seems to much like a rehash of their most famous track titled Pili Pili itself, which was a great, great discovery at the time. Ginger Baker does some cool no-nonsense stuff and also the Poly-Rythmo of the appropriately named Orchestre is fun.

At the end I think I'll go for Malembe, Tinariwen, and Mau Mau. Black Bombain is of top three quality but not that African really, therefore I won't vote for them, but I will check out more of their material. Could have voted Ginger Baker as well but he's more of a known name around here.
     
By the way I agree with Nicky that Samite's Night Stories was among the best in the nomination round and I'd have liked to see it in the final poll, although that would have made things even more diffiicult.


Edited by Lewian - November 08 2020 at 05:15
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2020 at 08:38
I agree that it is helpful to use the familiarity as a way to help sort out selection of choices to vote for....perhaps an easy way out, but I know for certain it isn't because it's comfortable already in my ear, that I find it good.  Glad to see another "huzzah" to Samite's Night Stories, too!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2020 at 11:32
This was a nice trip again and many good musical suggestions to listen to and to discover. So many good songs that didn't get nominated... I very much liked the mix of influences and genres in many of these songs.
Today I listened twice to the playlist, and the three that stand out for me are Kokoko!, Tinariwen and Ginger Baker, but this playlist is a very pleasant listen overall!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2020 at 13:15
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:



Yes, the lyrics are political.

When I come back home I post the translation.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:



Yes, the lyrics are political.

When I come back home I post the translation.

Original lyrics:

A 'lč parej, i lo savia ch'a l'č propi parej
Noi i soma 'n pņpol 'na rassa ch'a l'ha sempre viagią
Deserti, aquasse e ostacoj impossibil superą
E varie strasordinarie ingiustissie consumą
A l'č parej, pija l'esempi dij primi ani dėl secol
Quand ij nņstri viagiator a s'as ciamavo pionieri
Famije ėd mil pais dėspaisą
A fasģo tapa forsą a Ellis Island
Chicanos, macarones, cinesi a Little Italy!

Ellis Island cit isolņt e cancher 'd Nueva Yņrk
Limbo disperą dla neuva America
Tanti milion, tante speranse
Speranse d'ambrochč
L'intrada pėr la piramida malefica
Chicanos, macarones, cinesi a Little Italy
What's your name, what's your name?
Welcome to America, do you understand me?
Where do you come from, where do you wanna go?
Andoma bin, che le strą a son bin longhe
E che 'l travaj a nobilita l'argheui
S'as ciama boom boom boom boom economico
Ch'a saria l'invension
L'invension la pģ perfida
A l'č parej, a son passą pģ che otant'ani
E le aventure 'd cola gent
A son profonde ereditą
A son deli deli deli delicatėsse
Mės-cią a la naftalin-a dij nņstri armari
Chicanos, macarones, cinesi a Little Italy
What's your name, what's your name?
Welcome to America
Do you understand me?
Where do you come from,
Where do you wanna go?
Welcome...

TRANSLATION:
That's it, I knew it was just like that
we are a people, a race that has always traveled
deserts, rains and impossible obstacles overcome
and countless extraordinary consummated injustices
That's right, take the example of the early years of the century
when our travelers called themselves pioneers
families from a thousand countries, disoriented
they made a forced stop at Ellis Island

Chicanos *, macaroni, Chinese in Little Italy!

Ellis Island, small islet and New York cancer
desperate limbo of the new America
so many millions, so many hopes
hopes to get it right
the entrance to the evil pyramid

Chicanos, macaroni, Chinese in Little Italy

What's your name, what's your name
welcome to America
where are you from, where do you want to go?

Let's go well,
that the roads are very long
and that work ennobles pride
it's called boom boom economic boom
that would be the invention
the most perfidious invention
It is so
eighty years have passed
and the adventures of those people
they are deep legacies
they are deli deli deli delicacies
mixed with the mothballs of our wardrobes

Chicanos, macaroni, Chinese in Little Italy

What's your name, what's your name
welcome to America
where are you from, where do you want to go?
Welcome ....



Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 08 2020 at 14:17
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Edited by The Anders - November 09 2020 at 13:46
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2020 at 13:27
Thank you, Lorenzo...confirmed what I seemed to be hearing re the "Ellis Island," lyrics.

Yes, I have presented him before, The Anders, but in a different context.  Definitely a kora, a beautiful instrument, which he plays superbly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2020 at 14:43
Ginger Baker - "African Force"
Mostly built on Ginger Baker's excellent drumming and a funky bass riff. The guitar riff from around 4:00 (comes again in 6:30) is almost Fripp-like to my ears. Great track, and a possible contender. The rather regular sax solo is a bit of a letdown for me personally.

King Sunny Ade - "365 is my Number/The Message"
Another possible contender. Voting won't be easy. I really love the groove in this.

Orchestre Poly-Rythmo de Cotonou - "Se Ba Ho"
It gets "worse and worse". Another great track. Interesting rhythmic pattern.



Edited by The Anders - November 09 2020 at 18:07
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My votes:
Seckou Keita - "If Only I Knew"
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My votes:

Kokoko! - "Malembe"
Black Bombaim - "Africa 2"
Lokonon Andre Isidore et l’ Orchestre Les Volcans - "Glenon Ho Akue"

Honorable Mentions: the rest Smile
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Honorable Mentions: the rest Smile
LOL
But very true. This is the pleasure of these interactive polls: there is so much good music coming by... and so eclectic...


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2020 at 08:51
My podium:

1) Tony Allen

2) Tinariwen

3) Kokoko!

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Honorable mentions

4) Ginger Baker

5) Sonia Dada

6) Suol Makossa



Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 13 2020 at 08:53
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