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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Hey guys, RPI band Quasar Lux Symphonie has the same album - `The Dead Dream' - listed three times (in a row too!) on their discography page?!

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=293

I'm sure it's a fine album, but one should do!

Also, although it says 1977, apparently that disc is a RE-recording from 1995, only released in 2012 - to make for all kinds of confusions.


Re-recordings are fine as separate listings, but I agree we don't need two of that , so I'll move the one with ratings to 2012, and ask Andy Webb to delete the other. Thanks.

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... the two albums of Edgar (Animo)
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40675
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40676
are better placed as EPs. Durations of less than 30 min. Thanks.
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^ Thanks.

Left this one http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40675 in Studio albums (total time 34 min) and moved the next (27 min) to EPs.
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1. Genesis - Nursery Cryme album.asp?id=3 Line-up: Mike Rutherford is credited for "acoustic and 12 string guitar". Correct is "12 string guitar" only.

2. Tony Banks - The Fugitive album.asp?id=4444 Line-up: Misspelling of Drummer "Tony Berad". Correct is "Tony Beard".
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^ Both done. Thanks.
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.asp?id=1511 Genesis album The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Line-up error: Steve Hackett "electric guitar, nylon guitar" is not correct. More correct is "guitars", as he plays 12-string as well.
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^ Thanks, changed to "electric and acoustic guitars".
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To the Popol Vuh page:

Fitzcarraldo and Movie Music is a compilation album and not a studio album
Sing For Songs Drive Away The Wolves and Gesang Der Gesange is a compilation album of remixed and re-edited material and not a studio album.
Florian Fricke is a solo album by Florian Fricke and not a Popol Vuh studio album.
Yoga is an album not authorized by Florian Fricke and Popol Vuh.



Edited by Lynx33 - February 01 2014 at 13:12
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Oh, a whole lotta love sh*t in one post! Smile

I'd prefer a separate info on each album, but anyway, thanks for reporting and let's try to sort things out. Please pay attention to red letters.

To the Popol Vuh page:
Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

 Fitzcarraldo and Movie Music is a compilation album and not a studio album
- Fitzcarraldo - according to Wiki and its tracklist it's a "soundtrack featuring four previously released Popol Vuh compositions besides opera and traditional music". 
OK, moved to Compilations.

- Movie Music - I agree, it contains music from different movies. Moved to Compilations.


Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

 Sing For Songs Drive Away The Wolves and Gesang Der Gesange is a compilation album of remixed and re-edited material and not a studio album.
- Sing For Songs Drive Away The Wolves - were these songs released on previous Popol Vuh albums? It looks like not. Even if discogs lists it as a compilation: http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Sing-For-Song-Drives-Away-The-Wolves/release/319632 I'm not sure it is so.

- Gesang Der Gesange - agree, moved to Compilations.

Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

 Florian Fricke is a solo album by Florian Fricke and not a Popol Vuh studio album.
- Listed on discogs as a Popol Vuh compilation (http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Florian-Fricke/release/464939). Florian Fricke is not on PA. Moved to Compilations. Please let us know if all or some tracks were recorded without Popol Vuh. 

Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

 Yoga is an album not authorized by Florian Fricke and Popol Vuh.
- Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Yoga/release/799452) lists it as unofficial and reads:
"However, Florian Fricke revealed in an interview to Eurock.com that: "this is an unauthorized release. Some Indian musicians visited me in my studio, and somebody else took the tapes and sold them under the name of Popol Vuh, but it had nothing to do with Popol Vuh, really. I'm playing harmonium and organ. I think it was released in Italy.".
I have to ask Admins whether it should be deleted.
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A newbie called Razor's Edge contacted me to correct some mistakes:

a) Keystudio: Was on Studio album and it's compilation, already made the change
b) Keys to Ascension I and II, are in Live albums and being that both have a Studio side, he wanted me to add them as Studio and as Live album.

Told him that I would never add an album twice (remember 3 sides live), so both will stay as studio albums.

Honestly couldn't care less for these albums, but at least the Keystudio can be corrected.

Iván


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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

Oh, a whole lotta love sh*t in one post! Smile

I'd prefer a separate info on each album, but anyway, thanks for reporting and let's try to sort things out. Please pay attention to red letters.

To the Popol Vuh page:
Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

 Fitzcarraldo and Movie Music is a compilation album and not a studio album
- Fitzcarraldo - according to Wiki and its tracklist it's a "soundtrack featuring four previously released Popol Vuh compositions besides opera and traditional music". 
OK, moved to Compilations.

- Movie Music - I agree, it contains music from different movies. Moved to Compilations.


Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

 Sing For Songs Drive Away The Wolves and Gesang Der Gesange is a compilation album of remixed and re-edited material and not a studio album.
- Sing For Songs Drive Away The Wolves - were these songs released on previous Popol Vuh albums? It looks like not. Even if discogs lists it as a compilation: http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Sing-For-Song-Drives-Away-The-Wolves/release/319632 I'm not sure it is so.

- Gesang Der Gesange - agree, moved to Compilations.

Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

 Florian Fricke is a solo album by Florian Fricke and not a Popol Vuh studio album.
- Listed on discogs as a Popol Vuh compilation (http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Florian-Fricke/release/464939). Florian Fricke is not on PA. Moved to Compilations. Please let us know if all or some tracks were recorded without Popol Vuh. 

Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

 Yoga is an album not authorized by Florian Fricke and Popol Vuh.
- Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Yoga/release/799452) lists it as unofficial and reads:
"However, Florian Fricke revealed in an interview to Eurock.com that: "this is an unauthorized release. Some Indian musicians visited me in my studio, and somebody else took the tapes and sold them under the name of Popol Vuh, but it had nothing to do with Popol Vuh, really. I'm playing harmonium and organ. I think it was released in Italy.".
I have to ask Admins whether it should be deleted.

okay, thanksSmile
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What's up with this? Anybody looking into it? Seems straight forward or has it been deemed unchangeable? Just wondering Big smile
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Ugh. Guess you can't quote yourself. It didn't come through. I was wondering if the CORNUCOPIA Full Horn album has gotten any progress being moved from jazz/fusion to krautrock for reasons stated a while back.. Question
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Ozric Tentacles - Erpsongs
Please change release year to 1984.  I've confirmed this with their discography page on their official website.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Ugh. Guess you can't quote yourself. It didn't come through. I was wondering if the CORNUCOPIA Full Horn album has gotten any progress being moved from jazz/fusion to krautrock for reasons stated a while back.. Question


Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

The German group CORNUCOPIA is listed here as jazz/fusion.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1272


It's unanimous by everyone that this is Krautrock including by all the reviewers on PA

http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/cornucopia

http://www.discogs.com/Cornucopia-Full-Horn/release/1612175

http://www.krautrock-musikzirkus.de/de,Cornucopia-Hamburg_Full-Horn_728,N.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornucopia_%28disambiguation%29

Well you get the drift

Cornucopia Full Horn album cover




This is for the genre teams to decide. The E&O Team cannot (well, technically they can) move bands.

EDIT: I informed the teams in question. Now we have to wait for their verdict...


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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
b) Keys to Ascension I and II, are in Live albums and being that both have a Studio side, he wanted me to add them as Studio and as Live album.

Told him that I would never add an album twice (remember 3 sides live), so both will stay as studio albums.

Iván, I guess you mean live (where they are and rightly so).
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Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Ozric Tentacles - Erpsongs
Please change release year to 1984.  I've confirmed this with their discography page on their official website.
Thanks.

Yes, according to the band's official website it's from 1984: "Erpsongs - Original Release: 1984 - Dovetail Records".

But strangely the cover of Dovetail Records cassete (http://www.discogs.com/Ozric-Tentacles-Erpsongs/release/1257488) reads 1984-5:



What's true? Any ideas?


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Back to POPOL VUH.

Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

Sing For Songs Drive Away The Wolves ... is a compilation album of remixed and re-edited material and not a studio album.

"Issued in 1993, Sing, for Song Drives Away the Wolves is Florian Fricke's remixed and updated version of Popol Vuh's soundtrack album for Werner Herzog's Coeur de Verre (Heart From Glass), 1976. The original material is saturated in the heritage of East Indian classical music as it met the droning evolution of Krautrock. On Sing, the original seven tracks are present with beefed-up basslines, layered keyboards and guitars, and more punched-up kit drums. Unlike most update projects, this one works because of the obvious reverence Florian Fricke has for the material. It may be rocked up, but it still sounds like nothing else out there. This is music of bliss and mysticism, it resonates with its gradually unfolding themes and variations, and presents the listener a veritable world of sonic warmth to enter into and remain for as long as one wishes. The effect of these modern tracks is riveting; their punch is undeniable, but so is their subtlety. This new version of the album also contains the title track from Einsjäger and Siebenjager "You Shouldn't Awake Your Beloved Before It Pleases Her" from 1974. Almost 19-and-a-half minutes in length, it complements this sound beautifully in that it unfolds acoustically from Fricke's piano, a soprano saxophone, and drums. The same feeling of ecstasy eventually draws itself out of the music as an electric guitar enters the fray and transforms it into a driving, droney dirge. While Coeur de Verre is more desirable for those who like originals, Sing should not be discounted. Fricke was one of the few musicians who understood how to remix his own music."


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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Ozric Tentacles - Erpsongs
Please change release year to 1984.  I've confirmed this with their discography page on their official website.
Thanks.

Yes, according to the band's official website it's from 1984: "Erpsongs - Original Release: 1984 - Dovetail Records".

But strangely the cover of Dovetail Records cassete (http://www.discogs.com/Ozric-Tentacles-Erpsongs/release/1257488) reads 1984-5:



What's true? Any ideas?
Hmm, nope.  I'd have to guess '85 unless they are time travellers.  Whatever the cast  It appears that it was their first release.  Is there a way to get it to show up first in their discography, even leaving the year as 1985?
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^ Thanks, now it's first: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=281.
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