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Posted: March 13 2015 at 15:20
I will say that I like far eastern percussion instruments, and I sometimes think about getting them so my drummer can use them, but, obviously, that kind of thing has to be done carefully. I'd prefer using it more ambiently, like most of them are actually supposed to be used.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 16:33
I think a five piece set, a handful of cymbals, and maybe some roto toms or bells or whatever are the most a drummer needs. I've seen Terry Bozio's recent drum solos and it's obvious he still has chops for days but it's essentially the percussion equivalent of masturbation.
Tom wise? Anywhere from 2-5 i feel is perfect. Once you reach 7ish and up, you best have a good reason or interesting approach to drummer otherwise it become clutter.
But cymbal wise? If you have a good layout, i think the more cymbals the better. Now obviously i'm not syaing everyone should try getting 20 cymbals, but if you have like 3 toms and like 10 cymbals, thats pretty cool.
Cymbals have so much variance in usage, tone, size, metal, that i can see any drummer using a big arrangement of them interestingly and frequently.
If i had my way, while still being reasonable, i'd ask for a couple of crashes, one ride, a damn good china cymbal, 2-3 small splashes, and maybe one or two misc cymbals that i can;t think of.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 17:09
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Tom wise? Anywhere from 2-5 i feel is perfect. Once you reach 7ish and up, you best have a good reason or interesting approach to drummer otherwise it become clutter.
But cymbal wise? If you have a good layout, i think the more cymbals the better. Now obviously i'm not syaing everyone should try getting 20 cymbals, but if you have like 3 toms and like 10 cymbals, thats pretty cool.
Cymbals have so much variance in usage, tone, size, metal, that i can see any drummer using a big arrangement of them interestingly and frequently.
If i had my way, while still being reasonable, i'd ask for a couple of crashes, one ride, a damn good china cymbal, 2-3 small splashes, and maybe one or two misc cymbals that i can;t think of.
I tend to not like splashes that much, although I've heard them used well before. I'd go for a deep crash, a ride, and a china cymbal.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 18:37
Question: Would you guys get more excited about a band who released first a three song EP that communicated what they were going for concisely, or would you get more excited about a band that released a 6 or 7 song EP that was more like a mini-album, something to put a bit more food in the belly? Which one would make more of an impact on you? Which one would you listen to sooner/more often?
While i could listen to a short EP or a shorter album either way.
I'd be more interested hear what a band can do entirely, especially as a debut from a new band.
So while it would be cool to hear exactly what you guys want to focus on, i much rather hear that as well as some experiments/variances in sound or style. Not too much though of course. Don't give me noise rock then go into a ska jam the next song.
So to answer your question: a mini-album that showcases the band more and gives me more content.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 18:44
Hm. That's a toughy. Really it depends on how good the additional 3-4 tracks would be on the mini album. I guess I would prefer the latter, in general.
Tom wise? Anywhere from 2-5 i feel is perfect. Once you reach 7ish and up, you best have a good reason or interesting approach to drummer otherwise it become clutter.
But cymbal wise? If you have a good layout, i think the more cymbals the better. Now obviously i'm not syaing everyone should try getting 20 cymbals, but if you have like 3 toms and like 10 cymbals, thats pretty cool.
Cymbals have so much variance in usage, tone, size, metal, that i can see any drummer using a big arrangement of them interestingly and frequently.
If i had my way, while still being reasonable, i'd ask for a couple of crashes, one ride, a damn good china cymbal, 2-3 small splashes, and maybe one or two misc cymbals that i can;t think of.
I tend to not like splashes that much, although I've heard them used well before. I'd go for a deep crash, a ride, and a china cymbal.
Gavin Harrison's set of mini splashes makes me ooze.
He uses them in a way i just love. Like fills.
Here's a video i can think of that shows him using them <3
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 19:51
Polymorphia wrote:
Question: Would you guys get more excited about a band who released first a three song EP that communicated what they were going for concisely, or would you get more excited about a band that released a 6 or 7 song EP that was more like a mini-album, something to put a bit more food in the belly? Which one would make more of an impact on you? Which one would you listen to sooner/more often?
Personally, I tend to gloss over short EPs - 3 songs usually makes me think either, "even if this is good, I'll be disappointed because I'll want more. I'll just wait for the full album", ...or, "3 songs isn't enough to really know if I really connect with this artist or not. I'll wait for the full album."
6 or 7 song mini-albums go over much better for me, generally. Of course, with your band, I'll eagerly listen to whatever you do. I'm just saying what my reaction is to the average new band.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 20:22
Well, this is sort of to gauge what people who have never heard of us will think of us. While I know our friends will listen to us, I want to put out something that will make a good pitch to people who don't know us, particularly label scouts.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 20:30
I dig the way Gavin plays splashes in that video but in general I think they're a little unnecessary. I like deeper, heavier cymbals. In fact I've been researching for a good, deeper crash cause mine is too light.
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