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Shouldn't the release year for Renaissance - Illusion be 1970, Andy?
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My vinyl says 1969
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Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Shouldn't the release year for Renaissance - Illusion be 1970, Andy?

Well that's the issue, right? I don't own a physical copy of it so I have no guide, so we pretty much have to figure out what source is right.

My research tells me the album was only released in Germany in 1971 and elsewhere some 6 years later. Not sure if other sources negate this or not. 

And Luca, your copy of Illusion says 1969? That can't be possible... the album was recorded in 1970!
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^ discogs.com says first time it was released in Germany in 1970: http://www.discogs.com/Renaissance-Illusion/master/25009
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... the correct title of the album
is AT2F. See front cover! Thanks, and Happy New Year!
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^ Thanks, done.


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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ discogs.com says first time it was released in Germany in 1970: http://www.discogs.com/Renaissance-Illusion/master/25009
Yeah, I would go with what discogs says as well.

Also, happy new year!
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... hmmm, there we have a problem to solve. The listed studio album
describes just 5 tracks with under 6 minutes of music time. That would place it to the "singles" section.

Now, the band website doesn't even mention it! There are hints to a concert with the name "Galaxy". There appears to be a video of it. But I cannot find a single called "Galaxy". 

In the "history" section of the band's website, there is another mention (source, see text below). Perhaps, the album was never produced... The comment below must have been made before Feb 2010. After that, the band changed name, and according to their website (https://myspace.com/pergamoon/music/albums) they don't have any albums out yet.

Not sure what to do, but the current situation seems wrong to me... I would probably entirely remove the album until the situation can be cleared up. What do you think?

"At the concert Force Majeure appeared as a three-piece group. Besides Laci and Zsolt, Attila
Sipos played on guitar and keyboards. A video of the concert was produced, called 'Galaxy',
which contained sections from the new album currently in preparation."
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... this album
belongs to the Promo / EP section. Thanks.
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^ Thanks, done.
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Originally posted by tendst tendst wrote:

... hmmm, there we have a problem to solve. The listed studio album
describes just 5 tracks with under 6 minutes of music time. That would place it to the "singles" section.

Now, the band website doesn't even mention it! There are hints to a concert with the name "Galaxy". There appears to be a video of it. But I cannot find a single called "Galaxy". 

In the "history" section of the band's website, there is another mention (source, see text below). Perhaps, the album was never produced... The comment below must have been made before Feb 2010. After that, the band changed name, and according to their website (https://myspace.com/pergamoon/music/albums) they don't have any albums out yet.

Not sure what to do, but the current situation seems wrong to me... I would probably entirely remove the album until the situation can be cleared up. What do you think?

"At the concert Force Majeure appeared as a three-piece group. Besides Laci and Zsolt, Attila
Sipos played on guitar and keyboards. A video of the concert was produced, called 'Galaxy',
which contained sections from the new album currently in preparation."

Moved "Galaxy" to Singles/EPs. I propose to let it live at least untill it will be clear that this record never existed. 
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... the correct title for the album
should be

This Harmonic Consonance

See the front cover picture, or 

Thanks.
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^ Thanks, done.
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The German group CORNUCOPIA is listed here as jazz/fusion.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1272


It's unanimous by everyone that this is Krautrock including by all the reviewers on PA

http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/cornucopia

http://www.discogs.com/Cornucopia-Full-Horn/release/1612175

http://www.krautrock-musikzirkus.de/de,Cornucopia-Hamburg_Full-Horn_728,N.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornucopia_%28disambiguation%29

Well you get the drift

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This has to be approved by the jazz fusion team and the krautrock team. I'll bring this to them.
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... the correct title of the album
is

Sangaki

See front cover. Thanks.
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^ Thanks, done.
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^ Not done! The title on the cover is SANGAKY (with Y at the end not I).  Tongue
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^ Now it is! Thanks.
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  the album
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43574

is a live album, and should be moved there. Thanks.

justification: NMJ official website:
http://www.nigelmazlynjones.com/pages/music.html#
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