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thellama73 
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 Posted: July 23 2010 at 13:48 |
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It lists Milton Friedman, one of the great libertarian thinkers and barely below the middle line, in almost the exact place that I am. Isn't that strange?
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JJLehto
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 13:49 |
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Yeah, I'm thinking this has more a left bias than I thought.
Though in the FAQ they do address the bias/unnecessary questions.
So much for a fun lil exercise. Epic fail on my part guys
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The T
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 13:49 |
But the economica side of things is pretty accurate it seems: Llama extremely on the right for a pure free market Robert a little more relaxed, Padraic a little bit more, then we start to turn left, JJLehto starts to cook things with the left, and finally I end up just on the right side of Stalin 
Really, I'm not that much into bureaucratic collectivism... I think free market and regulation and social policies can coexist... As they do. I'm not the next Pol Pot...  |
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Epignosis
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 13:50 |
 The T wrote:
Nobody said this poll is THE ultimate test for political orientation, but it's fun and gives a decent idea.. Though you Robert ended being less on the extreme libertarian side than expected.. I actually ended up more to the lower side... Maybe my lack of religious principles makes me more of a "anything goes" guy... (not criticizing or valuing your position or mine, just explaining...) |
I strongly believe I am more Right-learning and Libertarian than the poll allows. It's just as Pat said- I have an issue with the way the statements are phrased.
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thellama73
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 13:50 |
The T wrote:
I'm not the next Pol Pot... |
We'll see.
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JJLehto
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 13:52 |
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Actually yeah, I'd say economic was pretty damn accurate, but I think the "social" questions are unfair....
It appears to skew them to the center line, while T and I were "more" libertarian?
Those are skewed to the left clearly, has to have been the wording and vagueness
Edited by JJLehto - July 23 2010 at 13:53
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The T
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 13:59 |
On the tv question on the poll... I think public broadcasting is always a good thing.. If you check public broadcasting here, it's always full of intelligent programs, documentaries, shows that go outside of the US and show you the world, great music, history....
Now turn to for-profit History channel... "history" never exists there anymore, but shows about TRUCKS, GUNS.. nobody would ever learn sh*t watching that sh*t.. And that's one of the supposed "smart" channels.. The same with Discovery, TLC, and all of them... All have gotten extremely stupid, dumb. The same History channel in its Latin American version is still a HISTORY channel... Here, you turn to Bio channel and you find the biography of... Farrah Fawcett...
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:01 |
The T wrote:
On the tv question on the poll... I think public broadcasting is always a good thing.. If you check public broadcasting here, it's always full of intelligent programs, documentaries, shows that go outside of the US and show you the world, great music, history....
Now turn to for-profit History channel... "history" never exists there anymore, but shows about TRUCKS, GUNS.. nobody would ever learn sh*t watching that sh*t.. And that's one of the supposed "smart" channels.. The same with Discovery, TLC, and all of them... All have gotten extremely stupid, dumb. The same History channel in its Latin American version is still a HISTORY channel... Here, you turn to Bio channel and you find the biography of... Farrah Fawcett...
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I hardly watch TV.
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thellama73
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:03 |
The T wrote:
On the tv question on the poll... I think public broadcasting is always a good thing.. If you check public broadcasting here, it's always full of intelligent programs, documentaries, shows that go outside of the US and show you the world, great music, history....
Now turn to for-profit History channel... "history" never exists there anymore, but shows about TRUCKS, GUNS.. nobody would ever learn sh*t watching that sh*t.. And that's one of the supposed "smart" channels.. The same with Discovery, TLC, and all of them... All have gotten extremely stupid, dumb. The same History channel in its Latin American version is still a HISTORY channel... Here, you turn to Bio channel and you find the biography of... Farrah Fawcett...
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I don't deny that public broadcasting often has good programming, but what if I only like shows about trucks and guns? Why should I have to pay for a channel that doesn't cater to my interests and that I will never watch? Public Broadcasting doesn't represent "the public." If it did it wouldn't have to be subsidized. Instead it's what a small minority of people think the public should like.
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:05 |
This was the quote of the day on my Google homepage....perfect to post it here.
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. - John Adams |
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:06 |
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And for whats it worth, that thing gave me some difficulties as well
the one with "The manufacturer and businessperson are more important than artist and writer" or whatever, obviously I see what they were going for...agreeing makes you "authoritarian" for supporting business over freedom...but even I cant deny that a manufacturer is more important to society than an artist.
Also, "the freer the market the freer the people" I was torn on...
Edited by JJLehto - July 23 2010 at 14:06
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:09 |
thellama73 wrote:
The T wrote:
On the tv question on the poll... I think public broadcasting is always a good thing.. If you check public broadcasting here, it's always full of intelligent programs, documentaries, shows that go outside of the US and show you the world, great music, history....
Now turn to for-profit History channel... "history" never exists there anymore, but shows about TRUCKS, GUNS.. nobody would ever learn sh*t watching that sh*t.. And that's one of the supposed "smart" channels.. The same with Discovery, TLC, and all of them... All have gotten extremely stupid, dumb. The same History channel in its Latin American version is still a HISTORY channel... Here, you turn to Bio channel and you find the biography of... Farrah Fawcett...
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I don't deny that public broadcasting often has good programming, but what if I only like shows about trucks and guns? Why should I have to pay for a channel that doesn't cater to my interests and that I will never watch? Public Broadcasting doesn't represent "the public." If it did it wouldn't have to be subsidized. Instead it's what a small minority of people think the public should like.
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Keeping them dumb seems like the main goal of private broadcasting...
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:10 |
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I like public broadcasting.
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:11 |
The T wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
The T wrote:
On the tv question on the poll... I think public broadcasting is always a good thing.. If you check public broadcasting here, it's always full of intelligent programs, documentaries, shows that go outside of the US and show you the world, great music, history....
Now turn to for-profit History channel... "history" never exists there anymore, but shows about TRUCKS, GUNS.. nobody would ever learn sh*t watching that sh*t.. And that's one of the supposed "smart" channels.. The same with Discovery, TLC, and all of them... All have gotten extremely stupid, dumb. The same History channel in its Latin American version is still a HISTORY channel... Here, you turn to Bio channel and you find the biography of... Farrah Fawcett...
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I don't deny that public broadcasting often has good programming, but what if I only like shows about trucks and guns? Why should I have to pay for a channel that doesn't cater to my interests and that I will never watch? Public Broadcasting doesn't represent "the public." If it did it wouldn't have to be subsidized. Instead it's what a small minority of people think the public should like.
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Keeping them dumb seems like the main goal of private broadcasting...
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I only watch PBS for the Britcoms and for Austin City Limits anyway.
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thellama73
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:11 |
The T wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
The T wrote:
On the tv question on the poll... I think public broadcasting is always a good thing.. If you check public broadcasting here, it's always full of intelligent programs, documentaries, shows that go outside of the US and show you the world, great music, history....
Now turn to for-profit History channel... "history" never exists there anymore, but shows about TRUCKS, GUNS.. nobody would ever learn sh*t watching that sh*t.. And that's one of the supposed "smart" channels.. The same with Discovery, TLC, and all of them... All have gotten extremely stupid, dumb. The same History channel in its Latin American version is still a HISTORY channel... Here, you turn to Bio channel and you find the biography of... Farrah Fawcett...
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I don't deny that public broadcasting often has good programming, but what if I only like shows about trucks and guns? Why should I have to pay for a channel that doesn't cater to my interests and that I will never watch? Public Broadcasting doesn't represent "the public." If it did it wouldn't have to be subsidized. Instead it's what a small minority of people think the public should like.
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Keeping them dumb seems like the main goal of private broadcasting...
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No, it's giving them what they want. They're already dumb. 
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The T
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:12 |
I won't deny PBS should get better equipment soon.. it kind of LOOKS old...
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The T
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:13 |
thellama73 wrote:
The T wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
The T wrote:
On the tv question on the poll... I think public broadcasting is always a good thing.. If you check public broadcasting here, it's always full of intelligent programs, documentaries, shows that go outside of the US and show you the world, great music, history....
Now turn to for-profit History channel... "history" never exists there anymore, but shows about TRUCKS, GUNS.. nobody would ever learn sh*t watching that sh*t.. And that's one of the supposed "smart" channels.. The same with Discovery, TLC, and all of them... All have gotten extremely stupid, dumb. The same History channel in its Latin American version is still a HISTORY channel... Here, you turn to Bio channel and you find the biography of... Farrah Fawcett...
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I don't deny that public broadcasting often has good programming, but what if I only like shows about trucks and guns? Why should I have to pay for a channel that doesn't cater to my interests and that I will never watch? Public Broadcasting doesn't represent "the public." If it did it wouldn't have to be subsidized. Instead it's what a small minority of people think the public should like.
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Keeping them dumb seems like the main goal of private broadcasting...
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No, it's giving them what they want. They're already dumb.
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Can't argue with that. Though I would say something:
the freer the market the freer the people? NO
The more educated the people the freer they are? YES
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Padraic
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:14 |
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if watching sense and sensibility for the 100th time means you're smart my wife has to be the biggest freaking genius on the planet
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JJLehto
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:14 |
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That statement did peeve me off, I support the free market generally...but the wording was difficult for me to swallow
Edited by JJLehto - July 23 2010 at 14:15
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Padraic
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 14:15 |
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that's weird JJ, from what I've heard you have no problem swallowing
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