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richardh 
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 Posted: February 15 2013 at 01:52 |
 The Doctor wrote:
I have a video of a concert from the Duke tour. And yes, they played it as one continuous suite. That's a great concert btw. It even includes (a shortened) version of The Knife (the last time they played that one live I believe, with the exception of the 82 reunion concert). |
yep I've got that. I think it was the Lyceum gig which was also recorded by the BBC for Tommy Vance's Friday Rock Show at the time. Superb gig.
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 07:57 |
richardh wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I have a video of a concert from the Duke tour. And yes, they played it as one continuous suite. That's a great concert btw. It even includes (a shortened) version of The Knife (the last time they played that one live I believe, with the exception of the 82 reunion concert). |
yep I've got that. I think it was the Lyceum gig which was also recorded by the BBC for Tommy Vance's Friday Rock Show at the time. Superb gig. |
Is that the show on the DVD that came with the last re-issue of Duke? Good selection of songs, but the sound was shocking.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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The Doctor
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 09:09 |
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^If so, it's not the full show. Granted I haven't watched the Duke DVD in quite awhile, but the show I have is almost 2 1/2 hours long. I don't remember that on the DVD.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 18:24 |
Blacksword wrote:
richardh wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I have a video of a concert from the Duke tour. And yes, they played it as one continuous suite. That's a great concert btw. It even includes (a shortened) version of The Knife (the last time they played that one live I believe, with the exception of the 82 reunion concert). |
yep I've got that. I think it was the Lyceum gig which was also recorded by the BBC for Tommy Vance's Friday Rock Show at the time. Superb gig. |
Is that the show on the DVD that came with the last re-issue of Duke? Good selection of songs, but the sound was shocking. |
One of my Genesis boots (Revelatory Genesis 80:78) has a selection of Duke songs, Lyceum Ballroom, May 7 - the sound isn't too bad really. It has a 4min version of The Knife. The '78 tracks are Follow You, Follow Me, a storming version of Fountain of Salmacis where Banks uses his ARP synth in place of some of Hackett's original guitar parts and Burning Rope. Part of the Duke suite is on side 2, with Duke's Travels & Duke's End on side 3. I never really picked up on the 'flow' of the suite.......
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Horizons
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 18:35 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Heathaze is a very beautiful song, everything is just so well considered and structured. DUKE may be more 'direct' in its appraoach, but strikes me as quintessential Sympho-Prog for 1980. |
No, i still can't see it being prog besides Duke's Travels having some more intricate rhythms.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 18:41 |
Horizons wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Heathaze is a very beautiful song, everything is just so well considered and structured. DUKE may be more 'direct' in its appraoach, but strikes me as quintessential Sympho-Prog for 1980. |
No, i still can't see it being prog besides Duke's Travels having some more intricate rhythms. |
I don't know what has happened recently, but I used to feel the same way - I mean, I've always liked the album, thought that Duke's Travels was the only Prog thing on it, but I've come to agree that it's a very strong sympho-prog album (for the most part) for 1980  ........
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: February 16 2013 at 02:56 |
lazland wrote:
No, it is not a concept album, as you mean it, but, rather, an album of linked themes, many of them arising from the martial difficulties of Collins. |
Ah yes, it's not easy being a drummer on Mars. 
Horizons wrote:
No, i still can't see it being prog besides Duke's Travels having some more intricate rhythms. |
I don't see it as prog either, but I like it and that's what matters. One
or two pages back people were complaining about side 2 of the Mama
album, in particular "Just a Job to Do". This rather surprised me. I
think it's funny, memorable, energetic and certainly not too far removed
from songs like "Robbery, Assault & Battery" and "No Reply at All".
I mean, I can understand it if people have a disdain for stuff like
"Illegal Alien" or even "Misunderstanding", but "Just a Job to Do"
strikes me as a pretty Genesis-y song. What's wrong with it?
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richardh
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Posted: February 16 2013 at 07:45 |
Blacksword wrote:
richardh wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I have a video of a concert from the Duke tour. And yes, they played it as one continuous suite. That's a great concert btw. It even includes (a shortened) version of The Knife (the last time they played that one live I believe, with the exception of the 82 reunion concert). |
yep I've got that. I think it was the Lyceum gig which was also recorded by the BBC for Tommy Vance's Friday Rock Show at the time. Superb gig. |
Is that the show on the DVD that came with the last re-issue of Duke? Good selection of songs, but the sound was shocking. |
think so but as already mentioned not the full concert . I do have a bootleg DVD of the full concert and also a seperate CD of the gig. The CD was likely taken from the BBC recording (not sure of its origins) and is very good. The DVD has very poor sound quality and was probably the source for the Duke bonus DVD.
Apparently its technically very difficult to marry a decent picture source with a decent sound source. ELP had this with the California Jam 1974 gig which was the holy grail for ELP fans ( but it was sorted eventually).
Edited by richardh - February 16 2013 at 07:46
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