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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 10:39
Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

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Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that.
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. 
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O
Yeah right 
 
I find that hard to believe too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 10:42
Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that.
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. 
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O
Yeah right 
 
I find that hard to believe too.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 10:44
Though my one friend says he likes prog and rap, but I think rap is taking over his life. I no longer conseder him a prog fan.Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 11:10
Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that.
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. 
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O
Yeah right 
 
I find that hard to believe too.
 
I seconded you back...
 
Obtuse, just obtuse.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 14:01
Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that.
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. 
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O
Yeah right 
  
I find that hard to believe too.
I seconded you back...
Oh for f**k's sake. I expect random PA members to sometimes say stupid things, but I didn't think a collab could have such terrible opinions.

Edited by Henry Plainview - November 03 2009 at 14:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 15:40
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that.
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. 
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O
Yeah right 
  
I find that hard to believe too.
I seconded you back...
Oh for f**k's sake. I expect random PA members to sometimes say stupid things, but I didn't think a collab could have such terrible opinions.
is that so?  opinion is a personal matter..  you cannot say i'm wrong.. i may just have different point of view from yours,it doesn't mean it's wrong 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 18:29
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that.
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. 
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O
Yeah right 
  
I find that hard to believe too.
I seconded you back...
Oh for f**k's sake. I expect random PA members to sometimes say stupid things, but I didn't think a collab could have such terrible opinions.
 
Lets see how stupid we are... shall we... Prog is about strange time signatures, rare use of all kind of instruments, experimentation in a musical matter and merging different styles in rock... rap or hip hop is just... some guy talking funny to a microphone while he's holding his chunk and move the hands on the air trying to be mean... and repeating "Joe... Joe... Joe..." every time he can... and have a computer percussion repetitive to mark the tempo... so... mmm... maybe is difficult to like prog and rap at the same time... so that's why is hard to believe it... don't you think mr. Plainview...??? but then is just individual tastes... so... we believe is weird to like both... that's it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 19:46
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 19:48

If you think it's hard for someone to like both prog and rap, that opinion is straight wrong, and can be proved wrong empircally.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 20:22
Hmmm - back to the original topic. I think it is possible for someone to be "obsessive" about prog music, but I think the majority of PA ers are dedicated fans who have a life outside prog music. It is the rare individual who locks themself away and excludes all else for the love of music. True they might be happy and not interfering in some nefarious way in the lives of others, but as so many posters before me have said or infered, prog music should not supercede all else in life. There is so much to discover outside the music speakers. I for one play prog or any other music as the mood takes me. I have other things to get on with, so prog is a pleasurable side hobby, but not the only thing in my life.

Edited by valravennz - November 03 2009 at 20:23

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2009 at 11:26
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

If you think it's hard for someone to like both prog and rap, that opinion is straight wrong, and can be proved wrong empircally.

 
That's correct. Such an opinion is just WRONG. It ceases to have the protection of opinions and becomes just a wrong belief. When put against FACTS, it is shown as just a wrong belief.
 
MAny people here have expressed their views on rap and hip hop and many have been favourable... Being narrow minded is NOT and should NOT be a requisite of people who like progressive music ....
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2009 at 11:40


OMG, that's life...



Edited by Slartibartfast - November 04 2009 at 11:41
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2009 at 13:51
Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

 
is that so?  opinion is a personal matter..  you cannot say i'm wrong.. i may just have different point of view from yours,it doesn't mean it's wrong 
But some opinions are wrong! Just because it is something you think does not mean it's an opinion which cannot be proved wrong and must be respected. It is the difference between saying "I do not like rap" and "Nobody can like rap"--one intersects with reality, while the other does not. moreitsythanyou loves Chamillionaire, Chamberry used to listen to a lot of hip-hop, although he's gone now, and I'm sure there are countless other prog fans who are more open-minded than you. They probably don't post on this forum because they may not think of themselves as prog fans, or perhaps they can't bear the at times overwhelming homogeneity of this forum, but I am positive they exist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2009 at 19:27
Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

Though my one friend says he likes prog and rap, but I think rap is taking over his life. I no longer conseder him a prog fan.Cry


Because heaven forbid someone isn't you and doesn't listen to exactly what you like, can think for himself and decides he likes hip hop *rolls eyes*
Grow up, seriously.
It's exactly these kind of posts that are partly the reason I hardly post anymore and the reason why many people don't take this site seriously.
I've been listening to hip hop for about 10 or so years now and yet I'm a collaborator at this site.
Are you offended? Do you "no longer conseder" me "a prog fan"? Should I be banned from this site for liking hip hop?
In fact, pretty much all my friends who are into prog are also avid fans of hip hop.
Are they wrong?



Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:



Oh for f**k's sake. I expect random PA members to sometimes say stupid things, but I didn't think a collab could have such terrible opinions.
 
Lets see how stupid we are... shall we... Prog is about strange time signatures, rare use of all kind of instruments, experimentation in a musical matter and merging different styles in rock... rap or hip hop is just... some guy talking funny to a microphone while he's holding his chunk and move the hands on the air trying to be mean... and repeating "Joe... Joe... Joe..." every time he can... and have a computer percussion repetitive to mark the tempo... so... mmm... maybe is difficult to like prog and rap at the same time... so that's why is hard to believe it... don't you think mr. Plainview...??? but then is just individual tastes... so... we believe is weird to like both... that's it...


For starters, you are not Micky, stop using ellipses so much.
Secondly, the sheer ignorance of your post just further proves Henry's point about random PA members saying stupid things.
Can you honestly not be able to re read your post and realize how silly it is?
" have a computer percussion repetitive to mark the tempo". That sentence doesn't even make sense, can you not read this back to yourself and laugh yourself silly? Because I know I can.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2009 at 09:03
Well, since there are 3 guys defending hiphop, well I take back what I said, is not hard to believe then, that someone could like prog and rap... but then tell me, how they record their rythums...??? I've seen a lot of rap/hip hop recordings and all they have is a lyric and a rythum... they plug in a Korg Triton or some studio synth, put out a machine drum and random noices around it... tell me I'm not right... tell me that they use real musicians and compose music... please... do...
 
I don't have any idea who the hell is Micky, and if he also uses a lot of ellipses, well, sorry for him... I write like this since a lot of years... so, I won't change just cause he did it here before I do... really...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2009 at 11:52
^No all types of music are about putting 4987349837 notes in your mucis or dealing with 3984729 layers of harmony or playing in 54/59 signature or playing a dissonance so dissonant that it could break the crystals in your celing-mirror... Other styles of music are about something else, try to accomplish something different, and are enjoyed by people in different circumstances. Not everybody listens to music only to try to find the "next big mind-blowing musical experiment" band...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2009 at 12:47
I don't find it that strange that some progressive rock fans would be fans of hip-hop, since there's a more experimental side of hip-hop (Dalek, Cannibal Ox, De La Soul etc.) as well as a short-lived movement from the early 1990s hybridizing jazz with hip-hop and I imagine there's quite a few jazz fans here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2009 at 15:16
Prog helps me get through my life.  I live in interesting times and need no substitutes.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2009 at 19:38
Prog is a way of life that most people do not understandCry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2009 at 01:06
@ jampa:
Instead of making broad generalizations about things, perhaps you can do the research yourself and find out the truths of things.
In case you are in fact, too lazy to go out of your way to do this, I can answer it for you and yes, there are HEAPS of hip hop records with real musicians playing on them.

@The Block : I cannot tell if you are a troll, if you are having us on or what, but the fact ANYONE takes prog rock this seriously is sad beyond words.
Do you know what I was doing on Halloween night?
I was out at a party, that was playing various crappy dance and pop music, having fun and enjoying life and meeting new people.

OMG THE HORROR OF IT ALL, I CHOOSE TO BE SOCIAL AND WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN LISTENING TO MY CHOICE OF MY MUSIC ON A SATURDAY NIGHT STUCK AT THE COMPUTER.

I must have made the wrong decision right, The Block?
I should have just stayed home, because prog rock is SOOOOOOOOOOOO important *rolls eyes*

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