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The Block
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 01 2009
Location: St. Alfonzo's
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Points: 924
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 10:39 |
angelmk wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O |
Yeah right |
I find that hard to believe too.
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
Status: Offline
Points: 6802
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 10:42 |
The Block wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O |
Yeah right |
I find that hard to believe too. |
I seconded you back...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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The Block
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 01 2009
Location: St. Alfonzo's
Status: Offline
Points: 924
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 10:44 |
Though my one friend says he likes prog and rap, but I think rap is taking over his life. I no longer conseder him a prog fan.
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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The T
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 11:10 |
jampa17 wrote:
The Block wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O |
Yeah right |
I find that hard to believe too. |
I seconded you back... |
Obtuse, just obtuse.
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
Status: Offline
Points: 16715
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 14:01 |
jampa17 wrote:
The Block wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O |
Yeah right |
I find that hard to believe too. |
I seconded you back... |
Oh for f**k's sake. I expect random PA members to sometimes say stupid things, but I didn't think a collab could have such terrible opinions.
Edited by Henry Plainview - November 03 2009 at 14:03
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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angelmk
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: November 22 2006
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 1955
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 15:40 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
jampa17 wrote:
The Block wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O |
Yeah right |
I find that hard to believe too. |
I seconded you back... |
Oh for f**k's sake. I expect random PA members to sometimes say stupid things, but I didn't think a collab could have such terrible opinions. |
is that so? opinion is a personal matter.. you cannot say i'm wrong.. i may just have different point of view from yours,it doesn't mean it's wrong
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
Status: Offline
Points: 6802
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 18:29 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
jampa17 wrote:
The Block wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O |
Yeah right |
I find that hard to believe too. |
I seconded you back... |
Oh for f**k's sake. I expect random PA members to sometimes say stupid things, but I didn't think a collab could have such terrible opinions. |
Lets see how stupid we are... shall we... Prog is about strange time signatures, rare use of all kind of instruments, experimentation in a musical matter and merging different styles in rock... rap or hip hop is just... some guy talking funny to a microphone while he's holding his chunk and move the hands on the air trying to be mean... and repeating "Joe... Joe... Joe..." every time he can... and have a computer percussion repetitive to mark the tempo... so... mmm... maybe is difficult to like prog and rap at the same time... so that's why is hard to believe it... don't you think mr. Plainview...??? but then is just individual tastes... so... we believe is weird to like both... that's it...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 28057
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 19:46 |
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 28057
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 19:48 |
If you think it's hard for someone to like both prog and rap, that opinion is straight wrong, and can be proved wrong empircally.
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valravennz
Forum Senior Member
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Joined: March 20 2005
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 2546
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 20:22 |
Hmmm - back to the original topic. I think it is possible for someone to be "obsessive" about prog music, but I think the majority of PA ers are dedicated fans who have a life outside prog music. It is the rare individual who locks themself away and excludes all else for the love of music. True they might be happy and not interfering in some nefarious way in the lives of others, but as so many posters before me have said or infered, prog music should not supercede all else in life. There is so much to discover outside the music speakers. I for one play prog or any other music as the mood takes me. I have other things to get on with, so prog is a pleasurable side hobby, but not the only thing in my life.
Edited by valravennz - November 03 2009 at 20:23
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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The T
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 11:26 |
stonebeard wrote:
If you think it's hard for someone to like both prog and rap, that opinion is straight wrong, and can be proved wrong empircally. |
That's correct. Such an opinion is just WRONG. It ceases to have the protection of opinions and becomes just a wrong belief. When put against FACTS, it is shown as just a wrong belief.
MAny people here have expressed their views on rap and hip hop and many have been favourable... Being narrow minded is NOT and should NOT be a requisite of people who like progressive music ....
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam
Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 11:40 |
OMG, that's life...
Edited by Slartibartfast - November 04 2009 at 11:41
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
Status: Offline
Points: 16715
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 13:51 |
angelmk wrote:
is that so? opinion is a personal matter.. you cannot say i'm wrong.. i may just have different point of view from yours,it doesn't mean it's wrong |
But some opinions are wrong! Just because it is something you think does not mean it's an opinion which cannot be proved wrong and must be respected. It is the difference between saying "I do not like rap" and "Nobody can like rap"--one intersects with reality, while the other does not. moreitsythanyou loves Chamillionaire, Chamberry used to listen to a lot of hip-hop, although he's gone now, and I'm sure there are countless other prog fans who are more open-minded than you. They probably don't post on this forum because they may not think of themselves as prog fans, or perhaps they can't bear the at times overwhelming homogeneity of this forum, but I am positive they exist.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
Status: Offline
Points: 25210
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 19:27 |
The Block wrote:
Though my one friend says he likes prog and rap, but I
think rap is taking over his life. I no longer conseder him a prog fan. |
Because heaven forbid someone isn't you and doesn't listen to exactly
what you like, can think for himself and decides he likes hip hop
*rolls eyes*
Grow up, seriously.
It's exactly these kind of posts that are partly the reason I hardly
post anymore and the reason why many people don't take this site
seriously.
I've been listening to hip hop for about 10 or so years now and yet I'm a collaborator at this site.
Are you offended? Do you "no longer conseder" me "a prog fan"? Should I be banned from this site for liking hip hop? In fact, pretty much all my friends who are into prog are also avid fans of hip hop. Are they wrong?
jampa17 wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
Oh for f**k's sake. I expect random PA members to sometimes
say stupid things, but I didn't think a collab could have such terrible
opinions. |
Lets see how stupid we are... shall we... Prog is about strange
time signatures, rare use of all kind of instruments, experimentation
in a musical matter and merging different styles in rock... rap or hip
hop is just... some guy talking funny to a microphone while he's
holding his chunk and move the hands on the air trying to be mean...
and repeating "Joe... Joe... Joe..." every time he can... and have a
computer percussion repetitive to mark the tempo... so... mmm... maybe
is difficult to like prog and rap at the same time... so that's why is
hard to believe it... don't you think mr. Plainview...??? but then is
just individual tastes... so... we believe is weird to like both...
that's it... |
For starters, you are not Micky, stop using ellipses so much.
Secondly, the sheer ignorance of your post just further proves Henry's point about random PA members saying stupid things.
Can you honestly not be able to re read your post and realize how silly it is?
" have a computer percussion repetitive to mark the tempo". That sentence doesn't even make sense, can you not read this back to yourself and laugh yourself silly? Because I know I can.
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
Status: Offline
Points: 6802
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Posted: November 05 2009 at 09:03 |
Well, since there are 3 guys defending hiphop, well I take back what I said, is not hard to believe then, that someone could like prog and rap... but then tell me, how they record their rythums...??? I've seen a lot of rap/hip hop recordings and all they have is a lyric and a rythum... they plug in a Korg Triton or some studio synth, put out a machine drum and random noices around it... tell me I'm not right... tell me that they use real musicians and compose music... please... do...
I don't have any idea who the hell is Micky, and if he also uses a lot of ellipses, well, sorry for him... I write like this since a lot of years... so, I won't change just cause he did it here before I do... really...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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The T
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493
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Posted: November 05 2009 at 11:52 |
^No all types of music are about putting 4987349837 notes in your mucis or dealing with 3984729 layers of harmony or playing in 54/59 signature or playing a dissonance so dissonant that it could break the crystals in your celing-mirror... Other styles of music are about something else, try to accomplish something different, and are enjoyed by people in different circumstances. Not everybody listens to music only to try to find the "next big mind-blowing musical experiment" band...
Life is too short to waste it by making music a science to enjoy....
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Toaster Mantis
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 5898
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Posted: November 05 2009 at 12:47 |
I don't find it that strange that some progressive rock fans would be fans of hip-hop, since there's a more experimental side of hip-hop (Dalek, Cannibal Ox, De La Soul etc.) as well as a short-lived movement from the early 1990s hybridizing jazz with hip-hop and I imagine there's quite a few jazz fans here.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam
Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
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Posted: November 05 2009 at 15:16 |
Prog helps me get through my life. I live in interesting times and need no substitutes.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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The Block
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 01 2009
Location: St. Alfonzo's
Status: Offline
Points: 924
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Posted: November 05 2009 at 19:38 |
Prog is a way of life that most people do not understand
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
Status: Offline
Points: 25210
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Posted: November 06 2009 at 01:06 |
@ jampa: Instead of making broad generalizations about things, perhaps you can do the research yourself and find out the truths of things. In case you are in fact, too lazy to go out of your way to do this, I can answer it for you and yes, there are HEAPS of hip hop records with real musicians playing on them.
@The Block : I cannot tell if you are a troll, if you are having us on or what, but the fact ANYONE takes prog rock this seriously is sad beyond words. Do you know what I was doing on Halloween night? I was out at a party, that was playing various crappy dance and pop music, having fun and enjoying life and meeting new people.
OMG THE HORROR OF IT ALL, I CHOOSE TO BE SOCIAL AND WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN LISTENING TO MY CHOICE OF MY MUSIC ON A SATURDAY NIGHT STUCK AT THE COMPUTER.
I must have made the wrong decision right, The Block? I should have just stayed home, because prog rock is SOOOOOOOOOOOO important *rolls eyes*
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