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Dean 
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 Posted: September 27 2007 at 09:09 |
 ShipOfFools wrote:
It really depends on the band for me. Sometimes, the studio versions are better than the live versions, but sometimes it's the opposite. Some bands are magical when they perform live (like Yes), and then there are some bands (like Porcupine Tree) that are better when they're in the studio. |
Coma Divine and Warszawa are stunningly good live albums from PT - the translation of studio work to stage is at times breath-taking, unlike Yes, who didn't quite replicate some of their meatier compositions as well as I would have hoped/expected (such as Close To The Edge on Yessongs).
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:08 |
I knew Dean would get on this case with a crazy vengeance!
I love live music, especially for prog, with all the improv and exitement that cant be held on album!
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MonkeyphoneAlex
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:13 |
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Seeing a band live can revolutionize the way you hear their music, and music in general.
Edited by MonkeyphoneAlex - September 27 2007 at 21:13
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"Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is THE BEST."
-FZ
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darkmatter
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:17 |
darqdean wrote:
ShipOfFools wrote:
It really depends on the band for me. Sometimes, the studio versions are better than the live versions, but sometimes it's the opposite. Some bands are magical when they perform live (like Yes), and then there are some bands (like Porcupine Tree) that are better when they're in the studio. |
Coma Divine and Warszawa are stunningly good live albums from PT - the translation of studio work to stage is at times breath-taking, unlike Yes, who didn't quite replicate some of their meatier compositions as well as I would have hoped/expected (such as Close To The Edge on Yessongs). |
Warszawa is the one of the best live album I've heard, the material on it is excellent, to the point of some of these live versions being better than the studio versions (Hatesong, Voyage 34).
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ZowieZiggy
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 20:42 |
Live music IS the essence of rock. Like Infadous I entered Yes and genesis catalogue with "Yessongs" and "Live" back in November 1973.
Altough live albums do not bring the same kick with prog music than with other rock genres (try "Slade Alive! for instance) it is still a great experience.
And when you attend a concert, it is even more obvious. There is nothing as such a live gig believe me.
Cheers.
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Drew
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 21:12 |
Im with you. I would rather listen to a studio CD than a live CD. But, obviously, I would rather be at a concert than listen to a studio CD 
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Sasquamo
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Posted: October 17 2007 at 17:24 |
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A lot of bands don't play the same live as in a studio, what with multiple takes and the like. That's one thing that's nice about jazz: live recordings and studio recordings are totally the same. The only difference truly is the audience.
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Zargus
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Posted: February 12 2008 at 04:20 |
I love live music albums sure the studio albums are nice but with the best bands the magic hapens live. Some great live albums are: Live at Leeds - The Who (probobly the best live album ever)
No sleep til Hammersmith - Motörhead (probobly the best metal live album after lisening to it the studio albums sounds like pop)
And my favorite Live album right now is Unleasehed in the east - Judas priest (another amazing metal live album with the songs realy improved over the studio ones)
And some prog ones Welcome back my friends to the.. - ELP and Yessongs - Yes are 2 of my favorites. And allso GG, KC and VdGG where superb live bands with many great live albums that i have yet to discover (more money pls) Miles Davis fussion period got many live album gems, and so on and so on.
I whuldetn say i always prefer live albums too studio albums i like em pretty much the same but sometimes it can be nice to put on a live album if you want soem raw power/energy. And too hear new versions of songs you like played diffrently it can make you love a song you got tierd of again.
And i agree that genesis was always crap live at the begining the reason Gabriel started with the whole mask and makeup thing was simply becaus the audience was falling asleep on the shows. Take Genesis Live as an example must be the most boring live album i ever heard, Gabriel sounds like an robot when he talks to the audience. And they made the songs even duller then on the studio album.
Edited by Zargus - February 12 2008 at 04:33
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 12 2008 at 06:55 |
coleio wrote:
I don't know if it belongs in here as it applies to all genres, but I have a feeling I must be one of a very small selection of people that actually doesn't like live music as much as listening to it on the CD or whatever format you listen to.
What with all the crowd, and the constant talking by the vocalist or musicians, it ruins an atmosphere that the record would create. And rarely does it sound as good live as it does on the record.
Am I alone in the this perception or are there other people who feel this way?
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Good topic. Live music can be hit or miss. I don' t get out as much as I used to and I used to get out a lot when I was younger. I love watching stuff from my collection of live DVDs. You don't have to deal with all the bad elements you generally get going out to live show. Not that there aren't a lot of positive things too. But one of my last live show attendances was Porcupine Tree (Deadwing Tour). The club was "standing room only" even though there was a balcony area closed off. There were three aholes standing behind me putting down the band very loudly. I was mostly unable to enjoy the performance. By the way guys, if you read this and come back to Atlanta, please do the Variety Playhouse. It's a nicer venue. You know they came back by on the same tour and picked what I think is an even worse venue than the Roxy. The best is seeing an artist that doesn't attract a big crowd at a small venue. You can sit down, relax, get close to the performance, and maybe even get back stage to meet the band.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 12 2008 at 07:02
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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A B Negative
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Posted: February 12 2008 at 11:19 |
Zargus wrote:
I love live music albums sure the studio albums are nice but with the best bands the magic hapens live. Some great live albums are: Live at Leeds - The Who (probobly the best live album ever)
No sleep til Hammersmith - Motörhead (probobly the best metal live album after lisening to it the studio albums sounds like pop) |
My favourite Who and Motorhead albums!
My favourite Hawkwind album is Space Ritual
My favourite King Crimson album is The Night Watch (with Earthbound a close second)
My favourite Gong album is Gong Est Mort
My favourite Planet Gong album is Live Floating Anarchy 1977
These are all live albums.
I've spent a fortune on going to gigs and camping at festivals (including waking up in puddles of freezing water). I wouldn't have done that if sitting in my living room listening to a CD was a fraction as good as the live music experience.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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LinusW
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Posted: February 13 2008 at 06:12 |
If you don't like live music, you're probably xenophobic ! 
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everyone
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Posted: February 15 2008 at 14:31 |
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Kansas- Two for the Show sounds great. They sounded just like the albums. Saw the Grateful Dead in the 70's and all they did was tune their instruments for 4 hours. What a waste of time and cash.
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Bornlivedie UK
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Posted: February 15 2008 at 14:38 |
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Live music is the best.
Apart from actual shows I love watching Live DVDs and listening to live albums. Alot of the time the music is much better live than on the record.
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