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VanderGraafKommandöh View Drop Down

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:20

So you fancy living underwater then? Wink

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:22

Geck0 wrote:

I've found many Christians do get a wee bit flustered with us Aetheists.

Flustered? No.

Do I feel sorry for you? Yes.

Everything has to be tangible for you to believe in it.If you can't see it or touch it you don't believe in it.

You know nothing of FAITH,and that is all that is asked of you.To have faith.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:25

TheProgtologist wrote:

Geck0 wrote:

I've found many Christians do get a wee bit flustered with us Aetheists.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:26

TheProgtologist wrote:

Geck0 wrote:

I've found many Christians do get a wee bit flustered with us Aetheists.

Well, I sometimes feel sorry for religious people. I guess faith is just not for me. It's not consistent with everyone's personality.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:26

I have faith, but it's a different kind of faith. I can live in perfect harmony without any form of religious faith

As I said, everyone has their beliefs and I have mine, just as someone else has theirs.

Edited by Geck0 - December 28 2006 at 16:28

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:52

The best proof God exists are Clementine oranges. The sections are perforated perfectly, and they are so easy to pull apart and eat individually. That's one heck of a coincidence.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 17:26

TheProgtologist wrote:

Geck0 wrote:

I've found many Christians do get a wee bit flustered with us Aetheists.

So... Who's asking?

The reason for me to be an atheist is that I see no reason to presume that there is some supreme being who created the world. And like someone mentioned earlier in this thread, the whole thing about organized religion... I just find that preposterous, being expected to believe in something because someone preaches what's right and wrong, what's true or false. My theory is just that religion/views of God have been created and abused by people hungry for power. And people buy it.

I do, however, have great respect for people with a personal relationship with their Creator/God/whatever, at least compared to the respect I have for people who believe in something because some old hunchback with a funny hat tells them to believe in it.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 18:26

You can't just tell someone to have faith. Someone has to come to that on his own, or not at all. Someone can want to believe in God all he wants, but without an inner revelation, it will just be a desire to believe, not an actual belief.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 18:30

stonebeard wrote:

True.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 18:47

TheProgtologist wrote:

You know nothing of FAITH

Oh, more than you'd think.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 19:05

I find that I don't need to believe in god to be happy, so why bother. Maybe when I'm older and more cynical I'll find god.

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 21:25

No, I don't believe this thread exists Wink

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 21:27

heyitsthatguy wrote:

No, I don't believe this thread exists

It was clearly created by someone (God) can't you see!!!!??!!!

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 21:29

progismylife wrote:

heyitsthatguy wrote:

No, I don't believe this thread exists

It was clearly created by someone (God) can't you see!!!!??!!!

IT'S YOU THREAD BELIEVERS THAT CAUSE ALL THE WORLDS WARS! FREEE YOUR MIIIIND, MAN!

*apologizes for making a post in all caps* Tongue

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Posted: December 28 2006 at 21:32

heyitsthatguy wrote:

progismylife wrote:

heyitsthatguy wrote:

No, I don't believe this thread exists

It was clearly created by someone (God) can't you see!!!!??!!!

IT'S YOU THREAD BELIEVERS THAT CAUSE ALL THE WORLDS WARS! FREEE YOUR MIIIIND, MAN!*apologizes for making a post in all caps*

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Posted: December 29 2006 at 00:54

I don't know if anyone's said anything about this... but determinism is only really in Calvinism. and there's plenty of evidence in the bible for being "elect in the son" [meaning the _group_ of christianity is predetermined, but not who is a Christian], pointing in the direction we do have free will.

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Posted: December 29 2006 at 01:34

Snow Dog wrote:

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The way I see it you can live with hope or you can live without hope.

So belief in God is a "need"? Without it you have no hope?

Did I say God, or just imply it?

Its not a need...unless you want it to be.

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Posted: December 29 2006 at 01:37

I think the episode of futurama "Godfellas" sums up god well.

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Posted: December 29 2006 at 01:38

I don't believe in the existence of this thread.

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Posted: December 29 2006 at 03:30

magnus wrote:

So... Who's asking?The reason for me to be an atheist is that I see no reason to presume that there is some supreme being who created the world. And like someone mentioned earlier in this thread, the whole thing about organized religion... I just find that preposterous, being expected to believe in something because someone preaches what's right and wrong, what's true or false. My theory is just that religion/views of God have been created and abused by people hungry for power. And people buy it.

Quite right!

I feel sorry for those who have faith in a god because this means that they have no faith in themselves or humanity. They need to believe that the world is someone else's fault, not theirs or their fellow humans'.

I am often astounded at the current rise of extreme Christianity (mainly in Africa and middle USA). It was understandable 500 years ago when people were ill educated and terrified of the unknown but now, when we know more than we ever did and ALL the evidence points away from a creator and towards evolution?

As my Gran once said: "There's nowt so funny as folk".

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