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Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

As a well-appreciated band, I'd like to mention TesseracT. Formed in Buckinghamshire, England, in 2003,  TesseracT is credited as one of the bands to pioneer the djent strand in the progressive metal genre. The group is well known for its intricate compositions and unusual time signatures. Playing progressive music that straddles the line between metal and djent, TesseracT conjures up strong cerebral imagery and sounds like progressive music of the future—at least for the younger generation of today.

Very good band indeed, one of the few djent bands I enjoy. It helps that they have a great vocalist. Tongue
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Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Unfortunately the war is having its bad impact, but both Ukraine and Russia were making excellent prog
I agree. From Ukraine hails Antony Kalugin, and there is the Russian duo Iamthemorning, currently residing in England. 
Kalugin is a very prolific and well-appreciated musician, both as a solo artist and as the leader of the recognised bands Karfagen, Hoggwash, and Sunchild. Kscope's band, Iamthemorning, made, within the progressive music standards of the second decade of the 21st century, a significant breakthrough in terms of popularity. Also, Iamthemorning composer and keyboard player Gleb Kolyadin released a few well-regarded solo albums with guests like Steve Hogarth, Theo Travis, Gavin Harrison, and so on.
Both acts, Antony Kalugin and his bands and Iamthemorning, are quite modern and original, which is not so often the case in the subgenres in which they work, as the former is symphonic prog and the latter is chamber music-like crossover prog.
There's another big fan of Antony Kalugin and Karfagen right here. Thumbs Up

ANTONY KALUGIN    Multi-talented multi-instrumentalist Antony Kalugin is the Ukraine's answer to Mike Oldfield, and he could probably beat you at chess too. You may know Antony best as the man behind Symphonic Prog band Karfagen. His six superb solo albums truly are one-man-wonders with little or no outside help involved. You don't have to take my word for it though. Just sample some magical Marshmallow Moondust from the selection below before it blows away like dust in the wind. I guarantee you'll be blown away by this outstanding album too, or you can call me "Vladimir".
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

As a well-appreciated band, I'd like to mention TesseracT. Formed in Buckinghamshire, England, in 2003,  TesseracT is credited as one of the bands to pioneer the djent strand in the progressive metal genre. The group is well known for its intricate compositions and unusual time signatures. Playing progressive music that straddles the line between metal and djent, TesseracT conjures up strong cerebral imagery and sounds like progressive music of the future—at least for the younger generation of today.

Very good band indeed, one of the few djent bands I enjoy. It helps that they have a great vocalist. Tongue
And it can be said that TesseracT is a popular progressive band, considering that the over 10-minute-long "War of Being" official video, released in July 2023, has 897,376 views momentarily.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Unfortunately the war is having its bad impact, but both Ukraine and Russia were making excellent prog
I agree. From Ukraine hails Antony Kalugin, and there is the Russian duo Iamthemorning, currently residing in England. 
Kalugin is a very prolific and well-appreciated musician, both as a solo artist and as the leader of the recognised bands Karfagen, Hoggwash, and Sunchild. Kscope's band, Iamthemorning, made, within the progressive music standards of the second decade of the 21st century, a significant breakthrough in terms of popularity. Also, Iamthemorning composer and keyboard player Gleb Kolyadin released a few well-regarded solo albums with guests like Steve Hogarth, Theo Travis, Gavin Harrison, and so on.
Both acts, Antony Kalugin and his bands and Iamthemorning, are quite modern and original, which is not so often the case in the subgenres in which they work, as the former is symphonic prog and the latter is chamber music-like crossover prog.
There's another big fan of Antony Kalugin and Karfagen right here. Thumbs Up

ANTONY KALUGIN    Multi-talented multi-instrumentalist Antony Kalugin is the Ukraine's answer to Mike Oldfield, and he could probably beat you at chess too. You may know Antony best as the man behind Symphonic Prog band Karfagen. His six superb solo albums truly are one-man-wonders with little or no outside help involved. You don't have to take my word for it though. Just sample some magical Marshmallow Moondust from the selection below before it blows away like dust in the wind. I guarantee you'll be blown away by this outstanding album too, or you can call me "Vladimir".
Do pobachennya! Smile



Karfagen feat. Antony Kalugin performs "Amused Fair" live at Parkvilla Theatre, Alphen a/d Rijn, the Netherlands. Pure beauty of symphonic prog, yet modern and original.


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Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

As a well-appreciated band, I'd like to mention TesseracT. Formed in Buckinghamshire, England, in 2003,  TesseracT is credited as one of the bands to pioneer the djent strand in the progressive metal genre. The group is well known for its intricate compositions and unusual time signatures. Playing progressive music that straddles the line between metal and djent, TesseracT conjures up strong cerebral imagery and sounds like progressive music of the future—at least for the younger generation of today.


Very good band indeed, one of the few djent bands I enjoy. It helps that they have a great vocalist. Tongue
And it can be said that TesseracT is a popular progressive band, considering that the over 10-minute-long "War of Being" official video, released in July 2023, has 897,376 views momentarily.




I saw Tesseract support Devin Townsend (and Leprous) in Bristol a few years back. The above track is excellent - yet another band I’ll not find time to get into….🙄😊
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Can we change the thread title to "Modern Prog Bands from around the World"?

Listing bands from specific countries doesn't discuss which nation is the most successful.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Can we change the thread title to "Modern Prog Bands from around the World"?

Listing bands from specific countries doesn't discuss which nation is the most successful.
Agree. To me all those posts are just irrelevant spamming, ruining the whole discussion.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Can we change the thread title to "Modern Prog Bands from around the World"?

Listing bands from specific countries doesn't discuss which nation is the most successful.
Agree. To me all those posts are just irrelevant spamming, ruining the whole discussion.
Sorry guys, but progressive bands from various nations were mentioned because we had to prove that the Norwegians are not the most successful modern prog nation. Is that okay?

And yes, we must not forget France. I will not list all the bands from the contemporary French avant-prog scene; I'd like to only point out that this PoiL video has 40,706 views this day yet, which is not bad at all for a live video of such an avant-prog band.
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Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Can we change the thread title to "Modern Prog Bands from around the World"?

Listing bands from specific countries doesn't discuss which nation is the most successful.
Agree. To me all those posts are just irrelevant spamming, ruining the whole discussion.
Sorry guys, but progressive bands from various nations were mentioned because we had to prove that the Norwegians are not the most successful modern prog nation. Is that okay?
Not the way you're doing it, no.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Can we change the thread title to "Modern Prog Bands from around the World"?

Listing bands from specific countries doesn't discuss which nation is the most successful.
Agree. To me all those posts are just irrelevant spamming, ruining the whole discussion.
Sorry guys, but progressive bands from various nations were mentioned because we had to prove that the Norwegians are not the most successful modern prog nation. Is that okay?
Not the way you're doing it, no.
Sorry again, but I don't agree that I "must" agree that Norwergians are the most successful modern prog nation, nor that posting videos in favour of proving that south of Norway there really are deservedly well-appreciated bands is something bad. And the embedded YouTube videos in accordance with the discussion are not against the rules of the forum either.

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is the UK just a footnote now? In terms of prog artists they may not be the most numerous but they are certainly the best known and exposed. Consider that Marillion, Porcupine Tree, solo Steven Wilson, IQ et al have had albums out that made various charts in Europe and abroad over the last 20+ years. Recall that the OP's question asks for the most successful.
Where have IQ charted in the last 20+years? Anyway, bringing up IQ and Marillion makes UK appear like a footnote as a modern progmusic nation. But recent bands such as Black Country, New Road and black midi are relatively successful.
This is what happens when people post without doing the research. And probably why some like you think that bands like IQ and Marillion are now footnotes instead of recocnizing them for what they have accomplished. See below and learn:

"The Road of Bones is the eleventh studio album by the British neo-progressive rock band IQ, released on May 3, 2014. It peaked at number 36 in Germany on the Offizielle Deutsche Charts, number 62 in Switzerland on the Swiss Hitparade and number 68 in the Netherlands on the Dutch Charts. It's the first album to feature Neil Durant on keyboards and it marks the return of original members Paul Cook on drums and Tim Esau on bass, the latter's first appearance on an IQ album since 1989."


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Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Chiyo Chiyo wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Can we change the thread title to "Modern Prog Bands from around the World"?

Listing bands from specific countries doesn't discuss which nation is the most successful.
Agree. To me all those posts are just irrelevant spamming, ruining the whole discussion.
Sorry guys, but progressive bands from various nations were mentioned because we had to prove that the Norwegians are not the most successful modern prog nation. Is that okay?
Not the way you're doing it, no.
Sorry again, but I don't agree that I "must" agree that Norwergians are the most successful modern prog nation, nor that posting videos in favour of proving that south of Norway there really are deservedly well-appreciated bands is something bad. And the embedded YouTube videos in accordance with the discussion are not against the rules of the forum either.
You don't have to agree with anything. Where did I write  that you or anyone else must agree with me? I had some actual arguments to back my opinion - while you're spamming the thread with youtube-videos of random bands you like. Try to come up with some arguments relevant for the topic. There's no actual need to post a single video.

-but I've had enough of you and your way of interacting already. Bye.


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Hi,

I would say ... America.

In essence, America is like 4 or 5 or more countries and the amount of music and its difference is incredible.

But if we go per capita, the decision would be nearly impossible to find ... we would never get done adding names to the listings to see which country did better.
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This thread has turned to be quite a farce but anyway, I can tell that I haven't seen any better arguments or evidence than to be 
most into pointing at USA as the most successful country for progressive music in the post-1990s.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is the UK just a footnote now? In terms of prog artists they may not be the most numerous but they are certainly the best known and exposed. Consider that Marillion, Porcupine Tree, solo Steven Wilson, IQ et al have had albums out that made various charts in Europe and abroad over the last 20+ years. Recall that the OP's question asks for the most successful.
Where have IQ charted in the last 20+years? Anyway, bringing up IQ and Marillion makes UK appear like a footnote as a modern progmusic nation. But recent bands such as Black Country, New Road and black midi are relatively successful.
This is what happens when people post without doing the research. And probably why some like you think that bands like IQ and Marillion are now footnotes instead of recocnizing them for what they have accomplished. See below and learn:

"The Road of Bones is the eleventh studio album by the British neo-progressive rock band IQ, released on May 3, 2014. It peaked at number 36 in Germany on the Offizielle Deutsche Charts, number 62 in Switzerland on the Swiss Hitparade and number 68 in the Netherlands on the Dutch Charts. It's the first album to feature Neil Durant on keyboards and it marks the return of original members Paul Cook on drums and Tim Esau on bass, the latter's first appearance on an IQ album since 1989."
My arguments was based on you giving examples of UK's "modern relevance" with bands formed in the late 1970's early 1980's. Over four decades ago, way passed their peak era and closer to retirement than a "breakthrough". Looks more like arguing against the point you want to get across rather than for.

-Those chart entries were too low register on wiki btw.


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One thing I like about music is that it's not organised by nation.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

One thing I like about music is that it's not organised by nation.

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This thread has turned to be quite a farce but anyway, I can tell that I haven't seen any better arguments or evidence than to be 
most into pointing at USA as the most successful country for progressive music in the post-1990s.

It was a farce to begin with. Your opening question never established what the criteria for "success" was. That can mean a lot of different things: album sales, sales per capita, number of artists, artists per capita, following, quality of writing/recording, bands happiness with their lot in life, most sexual exploits on tour, etc. This was pointed out on the first page directly and you didn't elaborate other than "good considerations", which said f**kall about your intended criteria. Eventually you made a list that established that you are apparently only talking about album popularity as the criteria for "success", with which you declared USA was evidently the winner. Your list, by the way, points out that on a per capita basis Sweden is about 5 times more productive of popular prog albums and Norway about 10 times more.   

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