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Poll Question: Choose 3 of your favourites when the time comes, will you?
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my 3 choices

Michele O'Malley - Song to the Magic Frog
The Budos Band - Magus Mountain 
Donovan - Season of the Witch 
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Thanks a lot George... I'm such a playlist addict.
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My votes:

Gasolin' - Legenden om Josha og Ming
Mick Karn - Plaster the Magic Tongue
Bloodrock - Magic Man
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Finally had some time to listen to the suggestions, so here some feedback (with a special focus on the nominated songs):

Shadowyzard: Erang's Temple of Elemental Evil sounds like an intro or interlude from a bigger whole. It lays down a great atmosphere, but to me it is lacking development (which is probably compensated by the rest of the album?). It still is my preferred one of the other two choices that sound much too formulaic to me. My compliments regarding your singing on The Enchantress! Really good, but you know by now that this is not my kind of music.

Anders: Gasoline's Legenden om Josha og Ming lays down a very nice bluesy foundation for the rest of the music and although it sounds quite straight rock overall it is much richer than that - good listen.

JD: Levitate by I Mother Earth, a very energetic song, great playing. And although I dislike the djent thing it is fortunately not accompanied by the "need-for-speed" double bass drum that is imo part of the metal clichés; here is a "normal" drummer (and a good one too!). It is not completely enchanting me, but I prefer this one over the Mike Batt song you put up, which has too much of a patchwork feeling to me. I know the Joe Jackson song (great) so it is good you chose to nominate I Mother Earth.

Progishness: Michele O'Malley's Song to the Magic Frog is a nice surprise: a wonderfully sung dreamy pop song, drenched in psychedelia. Great melodies and a nice melancholic stance... The right choice compared to the other two, which are nice, but not as convincing as this one.

Mathman: Another gread discovery with The Budos Band: a slow almost psychy intro before laying down the groove for the rest of the song that is very much enriched by the brass section. Creating some interesting tensions within the song... Very nice.  I remember Triumph from the 80s when they had some (minor?) hits and airplay; great to hear them again.

Snicolette: Ah, The Waterboys, long time no hear... Great to listen to this one - didn't remember them this way. Country Joe and the Fish is nice to hear too, but a bit more conventional late 60s(?) psychedelic music. Your nomination Iron & Wine is also my preferred one: more richness in the music, sonically speaking, more subtlety in the playing, more originality. Great song!

Saperlipopette: I very much like both of your suggestions: the folky Toadstone made me imagine myself being at Stonehenge, observing some rituals going on. At the same time it has something very modern sounding over it. But my preferred one is indeed your nomination, The Unseen. This one makes me think of Yann Tiersen: very atmospheric and sonically rich, wandering between a very dark ambience and a more comforting musical box type of sound, including loops and cheesy synths. Very cinematic indeed. Great discovery!

jamesbaldwin: I like the Modena City Ramblers' song (it is that they sing in Italian, otherwise you would thinkg they're an Irish-American band...) but it leaves me somehow underwhelmed - it remains a bit too much on a similar level -, especially when compared to Francesco Guccini's song, which conveys much more emotion and, imo, has simple a greater songwriting quality.

Lewian: I'm glad you changed your nomination... Although it is nice to hear the Subway to Sally songs, this kind of trad metal/heavy folk just doesn't stick long with me. HyCo on the otherhand is a good surprise. Upon a first listen I though that his singing was a bit weak, but upon a second listen it goes very well with the music: an intriguing New Wave influenced atmospheric song. I really like it.

TCat: Mick Karn with Plaster the Magic Tongue, great choice! Very much similar sounding to the Polytown album that I have and like very much (the collaboration between Mick Karn, David Torn and Terry Bozzio) and it sounds like David Torn is on here again. This is really up my ally! BÖC is nice but a bit too "straightforward" sounding to me, and Ulver is nice to hear too (great atmosphere), but cannot compete with Karn.

Cristi: Magic Man by Bloodrock brings a nice subdued jazzy rock song, typical early 70s sound. It has every thing we can expect: a nice groove, a great voice, modest but at the same time very present keys and the obligatory guitar. Strangely we expect more power from them, the song is not going where I might expect them to go but keeps lingering in a similar mood. Very nice listen, though.

Dr wu23: Three classic artists. The Donovan song is a very good listen, as are the Steppenwolf song and the Searchers songs, but somehow they're not having the same impact as some of the other songs posted here. Maybe too much 60s flavoured? Nice to listen to, but I'm not overwhelmed. Maybe I prefer the Steppenwolf track from these three...



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My short-list for voting:
- Michele O'Malley
- The Budos Band
- Iron & Wine
- The Unseen
- HyCo
- Mick Karn
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(...dice have to be rolling...)

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Here are my votes, again, wonderful choices from all, but it must be narrowed down.  Thank you Shadowyzard for the theme, especially considering you've been under a bit of stress from those fires.  May they soon end.  Thanks also to George for the playlist and to Lorenzo for the creation of these polls. 

Additional thanks to those who found time to comment, that is actually my favourite part and what sets these polls apart.  Not an absolute must to participate that way, but I find it edifying to understand how others approach the selected materials.

Special Mention to dr wu23 for 3 great songs of my youth: Donovan’s “Season of the Witch,” Steppenwolf’s “Magic Carpet Ride,” and  The Searchers, with “Love Potion No. 9.” 

And to Christian for all of his selections being amongst my potential contenders.

1.     Christian:  HyCo “Witches”  This one stayed with me and vied with Shadowyzard's more orchestral offering.  Begins with some percussion, bell sorts of sounds and very wriggly, watery guitar.  Deep voiced male vocalist, there is a very sinister sound to this piece, but also a sort of glorious feel to it.  There are some deep “ahhhhh,” sorts of sounds, as the song progresses.  Vocals are swirling and intertwined at times.  Definitely chill-inducing, in a good way. 

2.        ShadowyzardErang  "The Temple of Elemental Evil"  Really fought for 1st, decided to go with a less conventional (for me) option this time.  I would love to hear more of it.  A more symphonic piece (part of a video game or?).  I like the feeling of despair in the initial keyboard part.  There is an operatic voice that enters.   Some slightly discordant elements that enter in, and some plucked-sounding cello or perhaps done on keyboards.  And shimmery-distant horns, I think via synth.  This is a gorgeous piece.  

3.       Saperlipopette!  All three of these were way up there for me.  This one was decidedly to eeriest.  The Unseen “Evidently the Spirits Have Taken Over” (The Blackheath Tapes)Click on Music, then find the piece on the recording of Begins with some spooky slightly uneven sounding keyboards and eerie vibes (?) or perhaps a keyboard sound.  Very cinematic/atmospheric piece.   It has a feeling of foreboding and the sound is like you’re hearing it while walking down into a hallway, where the music is coming from another room.  A female voice speaks and is very garbled, to eerie affect.  It becomes kind of dirgelike with the female repeating unintelligible words.  Then goes into an almost childlike/circus part before the end.  Spooky stuff! 

Honourable Mentions:

Kees:  Les Rita Mitsouko “La sorcière et l'inquisiteur”  

Anders:  Gasolin’ “Legenden om Josha og Ming” 

Progishness:  Michele O’Malley “Song to the Magic Frog” 

Lorenzo:  Modena City Ramblers “Radio Tindouf” 

If They'd Chosen (would also have been vying with my top choices):

Christian:  Subway To Sally “Liebeszauber”  and Subway To Sally again with “Die Hexe” 

Progishness: Stevie Wonder “If It’s Magic”  

JD:  Mike Batt “Tarota” 

MikeUlver “Magic Hollow” 


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My mini reviews and my podium:


1) Shadowyzard - Evocative instrumental piece, synthetic keyboard sounds accompanied by infernal voices in the background. Nice atmosphere but the piece is underdeveloped, it is probably a piece of a puzzle that must be seen as a whole. Honorable mention.

2) The Anders - Syncopated hard rock piece with power rock sound, which tends to saturation, very pumped arrangement and with some originality. Still, very enjoyable. A guilty pleasure. An anomalous piece among those launched by The Anders. Honorable mention, vying for the best guilty pleasure with con ... see below.

 3) JD - Heavy metal piece, nice, but it's not my cup of tea.

4) Progishness - melodic pop song, which guesses the right and catchy chorus. The singer's voice does it all.

5) Suitkees - piece sung in French, with oriental violins, melodic, pumped, worthy of The Mission (I imagine Hussey's cavernous voice instead of that of the female singer). The piece is really shameless, it presses a lot with the arrangement and the voice on the cadence of the rhythm, it is almost bombastic, it transforms the oriental (very good) melody into an unbridled atmosphere, almost kitsch. A real guilty pleasure. But sometimes I like pieces that don't go thin. Competing with The Anders piece for the best guilty pleasure award.

6) mathman0806 - prog style instrumental piece, a fiatistic blues with many jazz digressions and an enviable progression. Alternate bombastic moments with other refined ones. Bronze medal.

7) Nickie - delicate song, without percussion, based on artificial sounds that act as a rhythm and evocative doubled voices. Very typical of Nickie. Very original sound, great atmosphere, just missing more pathos to make it a masterpiece. Silver medal.

8) MCR - Radio Tindouf. MCR are a combat folk group in love with Irish folk (flutes, violins, bagpipes). Over time they have combined this folk with the Mediterranean one, from Morocco to the Balkans. This piece has a beautiful melody and African percussion, in my opinion very well blended with the Italian accordion, the Irish flute and bagpipes and the vaguely oriental violin. Missing, to be a masterpiece, a major work on the arrangement, which in the third verse is the same as the previous ones, the piece slips away too smoothly to be entirely a gem of an author - it would have taken a slowdown in the vocals and in the arrangement in the ending.

9) Christian. Experimental piece, which finds the right balance between noise and music, evocative sound, voices that shape a melody, the detachment towards three minutes is essential to avoid repetition. Masterpiece. Gold medal.

10) Mike - percussive piece, with very sophisticated sounds, and surreal circus mood. Very original. Honorable mention.

11) Cristi - jam blues, sober, dirty, maybe a little slow. Excellent instrumental interlude with guitar and organ, good vocals. Honorable mention.

12) Dr Wu23 - Donovan memorable piece, hypnotic, beautifully sung. Paradoxically, it is one of his major pieces where the arrangement is lacking, in fact he could have varied the music more, put a solo or a final coda, and instead nothing, the piece is the same from start to finish, simple, bare. In this way it increases the hypnocity and the catchiness but from the strictly musical point of view it could be even more memorable.

***Saperlipopette: i dont find your piece.


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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

***Saperlipopette: i dont find your piece.
You mean the Bandcamp-page doesn't appear on your screen? Because if it does you can just click the playbutton.
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Okay magic people!

I'm casting my votes for:

1-) The Unseen - Evidently the Spirits Have Taken Over (Saperlipopette) - Wonderfully atmospheric tinged with some delightful eeriness.
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Donovan - Season of the Witch (dr wu23) - I know this song, and love it so much that I can't do anything but vote for it.
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Mick Karn - Plaster the Magic Tongue (TCat) - A very nice mood shifter song, in a good way. Loved it.
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

 

2.        ShadowyzardErang  "The Temple of Elemental Evil"  Really fought for 1st, decided to go with a less conventional (for me) option this time.  I would love to hear more of it.  A more symphonic piece (part of a video game or?).  I like the feeling of despair in the initial keyboard part.  There is an operatic voice that enters.   Some slightly discordant elements that enter in, and some plucked-sounding cello or perhaps done on keyboards.  And shimmery-distant horns, I think via synth.  This is a gorgeous piece.  



TBH, Erang's other stuff didn't interest me this much. You might wanna check this out though! Darchon is actually a nefarious black metal band, but this "interlude" is very haunting. Please listen to it till the end. I'd like to hear what you think about it, if you can spare time for that. Smile


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Second batch:

The Unseen - Ev. the Spirits've Taken Over (Saperlipopette)
The intro reminds me a bit of the start of a rap song or maybe a dance track (lo-fi sound, vinyl noise and so), but then there is a key change, so it is clearly not the case. Around 2:00 there's a break of sorts, and the sound gets pretty ominous with some off-key sounds. Speaking voice partly recorded in reverse. Then an almost grotesque change to something more happy-go-lucky with oom-pah-pah accordion and glockenspiel, and the song fades out. Interesting track that I will have to hear again.

Modena City Ramblers - Radio Tindouf (jamesbaldwin)
Folkish song. It has mostly (only?) acoustic instrumentation: several percussion instruments, accordion, acoustic guitar, tin whistle, violin. The bass may be electric? I like it a lot.

HyCo - Witches (Lewian)
Rather late-80's to early 90's soundtrack-sounding, especially with the drum sounds. They are however counterpointed by the more organic guitar sound. I will have to hear it again to judge it properly, especially since we're into a sound pretty far from what I normally listen to.

Mick Karn - Plaster the Magic Tongue (TCat)
Funky track complete with wah-wah guitar and slap bass. At times it sounds pretty cacophonic, especially when the guitar solo comes in (which is a positive thing in my world). The flute is a bit of an oddity in this universe.

Bloodrock - Magic Man (Cristi)
Very disturbing album cover which I recognize from many of these Worst Album Covers lists. The music is pretty cool though, especially with the Fender Rhodes (one of my favourite instruments). There are some nice vocals too. The guitar solo is rather Clapton-like. Maybe the track is a bit long for that type of music.

Donovan - Season of the Witch (dr wu23)
I am not very familiar with Donovan, and I have never heard this song before - which is kind of strange since he influenced some of the artists I listen to. There's a lot of emphasis in the organ(s). Fine song with a melody that is perhaps a little too monotonous for me, especially in the chorus where he is singing the same note much of the time. But I guess he mostly went for the mood.


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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:


TBH, Erang's other stuff didn't interest me this much. You might wanna check this out though! Darchon is actually a nefarious black metal band, but this "interlude" is very haunting. Please listen to it till the end. I'd like to hear what you think about it, if you can spare time for that. Smile


Video removed for space

With the Erang, I meant I wanted to hear more of that piece, as in an extension, it was shorter than I felt it need have been.  

Darchong  “Crossing The Celestial Path To Infinities And Beyond”  Haunting keyboards with synth washes underneath.  Joined by synthesized orchestral sound, in a way that denotes despair (to me, anyway).  The melody shifts a bit, evoking, as the title would suggest, spaciousness and eternity.  There is an opening up of feeling towards the end, are they reaching some sort of destination (other than the coda, of course), or have they gone so far there is no possibility of turning back? 

If the Erang piece had stretched out to this length, it would have been a mightier battle to 1st place.  This is quite enjoy, as it allows one to travel with it. 


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So, here's for my verdict... The first two were the obvious ones for me, the third one rather a toss-up between the four remaining of my short-list (so much a matter of "the mood of the moment" because of the different styles...):

- Mick Karn - Plaster the Magic Tongue
- The Unseen - Ev. the Spirits've Taken Over
- The Budos Band - Magus Mountain

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Shadowyzard:My compliments regarding your singing on The Enchantress! Really good, but you know by now that this is not my kind of music.


I'm really sorry that I'm not responding to such compliments, as I see singing as a hobby and sing for fun. NEVER thought of being a pro singer. Never did anything for that, even rejected some offers.

So, I belatedly thank to you, Lewian and Snicolette for your kind words about my singing in this and the previous poll (another band, another song). If I'm forgetting someone, accept my apologies.

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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Shadowyzard:My compliments regarding your singing on The Enchantress! Really good, but you know by now that this is not my kind of music.


I'm really sorry that I'm not responding to such compliments, as I see singing as a hobby and sing for fun. NEVER thought of being a pro singer. Never did anything for that, even rejected some offers.

So, I belatedly thank to you, Lewian and Snicolette for your kind words about my singing in this and the previous poll (another band, another song). If I'm forgetting someone, accept my apologies.

Oh yes, measured and enthralling vocals. Excellent singing.

The use of the voice recalls me that of Chris Cornell.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Shadowyzard:My compliments regarding your singing on The Enchantress! Really good, but you know by now that this is not my kind of music.


I'm really sorry that I'm not responding to such compliments, as I see singing as a hobby and sing for fun. NEVER thought of being a pro singer. Never did anything for that, even rejected some offers.

So, I belatedly thank to you, Lewian and Snicolette for your kind words about my singing in this and the previous poll (another band, another song). If I'm forgetting someone, accept my apologies.

Oh yes, measured and enthralling vocals. Excellent singing.

The use of the voice recalls me that of Chris Cornell.


Thanks man! BTW, I don't "try" to sing like someone. Or more accurately, I gave up being a Bruce Dickinson wannabe after I was 23 years old. But, Chris Cornell... Another singer that my singing is likened to. That should be the 40th or so. LOL
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They were all....magical, but chose,

Hyco-Witches (Lewian)
Michele O'Malley - Song to the Magic Frog (Progishness)
Bloodrock - Magic Man (Cristi)

also liked,
Mick Karn - Plaster the Magic Tongue (TCat)
The Budos Band - Magus Mountain (mathman0806)


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I'm doing another listen, but I am not yet ready to vote. Some very strong tracks here.
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Mick Karn is great as ever, I love his whole discography and this one is well selected, but there is enough to vote that I hadn't known yet.
Some candidates:
The first entry Erang is of course great for an Art Zoyd fan and lover of dark atmosphere. I'm always up for slick instrumentals anyway, and The Budos Band has produced another one of these. I Mother Earth does the kind of heavy that I like. The Song to the Magic Frog has something magic indeed. More magic comes from the Klaus Morlock/Unseen track, this is exactly how it sounds when the spirits take over. And then, excellent as ever, Nicky's entry Iron and Wine (actually this sounds a bit atypical for you but the quality is surely there). So that's six and I have three votes.  

Finally I go for Erang, the Unseen, and Iron and Wine, but it was very very tight between those listed. (Listening Modena City Ramblers again, I include them in the top list, but the votes are as they are.)


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Mick Karn is great as ever, I love his whole discography and this one is well selected, but there is enough to vote that I hadn't known yet.
Some candidates:
The first entry Erang is of course great for an Art Zoyd fan and lover of dark atmosphere. I'm always up for slick instrumentals anyway, and The Budos Band has produced another one of these. I Mother Earth does the kind of heavy that I like. The Song to the Magic Frog has something magic indeed. More magic comes from the Klaus Morlock/Unseen track, this is exactly how it sounds when the spirits take over. And then, excellent as ever, Nicky's entry Iron and Wine (actually this sounds a bit atypical for you but the quality is surely there). So that's six and I have three votes.  

Finally I go for Erang, the Unseen, and Iron and Wine, but it was very very tight between those listed. (Listening Modena City Ramblers again, I include them in the top list, but the votes are as they are.)

Thank you, Christian, it's fun to pull an unexpected one out of my hat from time to time.  
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