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Poll Question: Pick your three favourites!
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Logan further: Pulp “Dishes” Ah, this is the song mentioned elsewhere, the one who’s not Jesus, though he has the same initials. Great line! Also somewhat reminds me of Ray Davies. Air “Radian” Very hypnotic and eerie, both. Nice harp, horn and flute sounds, where it gets less eerie, but still outstanding, then moves into some other strange territory. Wowie zowie, really enjoyed that! Pierre Henry Urban Sax “Paradise Lost” Pretty wild stuff. I have a friend, Archie Patterson, who really loves them, who has published a book under his “Eurock” banner about them. Opus III “It’s A Fine Day” Really pretty voice, very different from Urban Sax!


Thanks, and I have changed my nomination from Eels "Beautiful Freak" to Air's "Radian". a track from the Air album. Either "Radian" or "Sex Born Poison" I thought would be my pick since I was genuinely surprised at how stupid my negative reaction to the album had been when I initially played it. That I had dismissed it so easily and made a vacuous negative comment about it embarrasses (a minor embarrassment, but I have got many thousands of embarrassing moments that pop up regularly in my head, and new ones every day). At least I now recognise my ignorance and that I was swayed by reading some negative reviews, not listening with an open mind or even at all attentively at first (more like background noise as I was editing a paper). Wile none of my anecdotes to explain my choice might be compelling, this anecdote is the one that does not feel ultimately superficial to me.

You don't have to listen to it, Nickie, but here is another track I liked from the album. I love the whole album now, but Radian and Sex Born Poison are the two that clicked the most first (this track has more of an element of surprise to me).



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:58
Thanks, Logan, will give it a listen in a bit.  The first one I heard that you posted by them really intrigued me.  Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:58
Radian is great in my ears, Sex Born Poison not quite that much (if this helps the decision process Wink), surprise factor or not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:01
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

 Nice one, Joanna Newsom is awesome (I got to know her on the radio, but that was actually a show where regularly good stuff was played, so not that much of a surprise), and this is a super fun video!
Here's some of her music:
Thanks, will enjoy seeing the video in a bit!  I have a couple of her recordings, I think I first heard of her when there used to be a great magazine for acoustic music of all kinds, "Dirty Linen."  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:02
I love Joanna Newsom's music, but her voice takes some getting used to, and a whole album of it can get a bit tiresome after a while.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:04
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I was at a college party in my sophomore year when someone put this album on. I'd never heard anything like it. I immediately stopped talking and sat down to listen to the whole thing. I borrowed it from the host when I left and bought it 2 days later. Still adore everything he's done.

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The first thing I heard of Leonard Cohen was this, and it had a similar effect on me.

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Radian is great in my ears, Sex Born Poison not quite that much (if this helps the decision process Wink), surprise factor or not.


It helps since Radian is my first choice too, thanks. Now I feel that I can comfortably stop vacillating between my choices (and get on with listening to others music).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:07
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I love Joanna Newsom's music, but her voice takes some getting used to, and a whole album of it can get a bit tiresome after a while.

That her voice needs getting used to is true... I can enjoy whole albums of her, but I really have to be in the mood.
By the way, do you know of Italian radio shows where good new music is played regularly?
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:


Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.



Another one of my top albums from the 90's.


Love that video and love that track.  Note to self:  Add this album to the list of "gotta hear this".

Nice post Geo!



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Because I apparently have lived a sheltered life and not come across any rare obscure exciting surprises like the rest of you folks, I am going to select a well known pop artist who provided a surprise to me "prog rock" album and specifically this song:



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:15
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:



Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.

(Eels video)

Another one of my top albums from the 90's.

Coincidentally I heard this one on the same radio show (not on the same day though) where I came across  Joanna Newsom. Very cool. The first half is pretty close to Holger Hiller's stuff (my contribution to the - what? - second poll or so).
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I really like the Electro Shock Blues album too. I think my favourite track is "My Descent Into Madness", because of the baroque-like string section.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote TCat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:18
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

For added fun, here is the Portlandia segment I mentioned re the desecration of the bagpipes by Eels in their video.  I am sure no actual harp was damaged in this video.

"Why are you suing us?  What kind of vibe is that?"   LMAO  LOL



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:28
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Because I apparently have lived a sheltered life and not come across any rare obscure exciting surprises like the rest of you folks, I am going to select a well known pop artist who provided a surprise to me "prog rock" album and specifically this song: [video embed edited out for bandwidth]


Maybe some people are less easily surprised than others. Just being at the forum I get multiple surprises every day (not so much in discovering music, but in what people say or "fail to say" quite often). I am someone who makes predictions (to myself) a lot, such as this person will likely say this, or that person will likely vote that, and am surprised that I get it wrong as much as I do as I used to be much better at making accurate predictions (my psychic powers have waned).A very predictable forum can be a very boring forum, though, but one can expect certain patterns of behavior from individuals.

I love Neil Diamond and that song. I couldn't think of many instances of surprise (two of mine were based on coincidences which really were not that that amazing or surprising) and none that are very obscure,I would think. Two pretty popular songs, and one pretty popular act with Air. Part of the fun in these polls for me is thinking through one's approach within the parameters, and that process can be quite creative. It's a very thoughtful and introspective exercise, and also an interactive, communal exercise. It's that combo that makes this series such a winner for me.

Such a predictably boring Logan response, sorry.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Because I apparently have lived a sheltered life and not come across any rare obscure exciting surprises like the rest of you folks, I am going to select a well known pop artist who provided a surprise to me "prog rock" album and specifically this song:

video removed for space reasons and stuff like that.

The Jonathan Livingston Seagull soundtrack is the reason why I have very much respect for Neil Diamond.  All of the music on that album is amazingly beautiful, deep and touching.  That music touches my soul deeply everytime I hear it.  The man could write beautiful music and poetry when he was inspired.


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:



Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.

(Eels video)

Another one of my top albums from the 90's.

Coincidentally I heard this one on the same radio show (not on the same day though) where I came across  Joanna Newsom. Very cool. The first half is pretty close to Holger Hiller's stuff (my contribution to the - what? - second poll or so).


Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

I really like the Electro Shock Blues album too. I think my favourite track is "My Descent Into Madness", because of the baroque-like string section.


Electro Shock Blues and the debut are the only Eels albums I know. I did discover the band due to hearing the "Beautiful Freak" song, which was a pretty big hit song, methinks. "My Descent Into Madness" is likely my favourite too, also because of the baroque-like string section. There's lot of music I love with such string sounds both from the 60s through 70s and in the 90s up. It's something of a particular passion of mine in music, and I love 90s-up music with a certain retro feel to it (evocative of the late 60s). One reason I like "Beautiful Freak" is that it has an air of pathos and fragility (qualities I commonly do favour in music as it resonates with often melancholic and awkward/unsure of myself me). I'm really interested in how music interests (and film and TV) reflects on people's psychology/ life experiences.

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The one thing that always surprises me is this particular cover of John Lennon's "Imagine".   The thing that surprises me about it is how much I adore this cover and how many people just hate it.  I think the tension that is built in this version is so pertinent to the current times, it's like everyone is waiting for the final straw that could bring everything down, and that is the feeling I get when I hear this.  

A Perfect Circle - "Imagine"



Thanks to Lorenzo for posting what I call the "real" versions of "Born in the USA".  I didn't know the song was originally meant for the "Nebraska" album, but these versions really push the meaning of the song to the fore, and I especially love the third one that you posted.  It was what inspired me to post what I think is the cover of the many covers of "Imagine" that truly conveys the meaning of the song.



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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:



Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.

(Eels video)

Another one of my top albums from the 90's.

Coincidentally I heard this one on the same radio show (not on the same day though) where I came across  Joanna Newsom. Very cool. The first half is pretty close to Holger Hiller's stuff (my contribution to the - what? - second poll or so).

Yes, I did think of Holger as I was looking at the video (which I hadn't seen before). I've had this album for over 20 years, but had never seen the video until now. 

Very deep and personal, E wrote the album based on the institutionalization/suicide of his sister and his mom passing from lung cancer. It's a very cohesive album with a hint of optimism at the end. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 15:03
Another that sort of surprise me was this from Melody Nelson. I posted another from the album in an earlier poll. I'd heard/read from various sources that the only music worth listening to was the first and last track, but I enjoyed the whole album and was surprised that this was not considered worthy of regard:



I considered that for the poll, but thought the story behind choosing it lacked sufficient surprise factor.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2020 at 15:11
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

The one thing that always surprises me is this particular cover of John Lennon's "Imagine".   The thing that surprises me about it is how much I adore this cover and how many people just hate it.  I think the tension that is built in this version is so pertinent to the current times, it's like everyone is waiting for the final straw that could bring everything down, and that is the feeling I get when I hear this.  

A Perfect Circle - "Imagine"

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Thanks to Lorenzo for posting what I call the "real" versions of "Born in the USA".  I didn't know the song was originally meant for the "Nebraska" album, but these versions really push the meaning of the song to the fore, and I especially love the third one that you posted.  It was what inspired me to post what I think is the cover of the many covers of "Imagine" that truly conveys the meaning of the song.



Another call for a cover versions poll here! Wink
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