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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2023 at 17:19
^^^^ Without diigging deep as I understand, we have to "rollback" all changes made with THE VIEW INSIDE albums and restore info according to David's post: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131079 (including the band's website).

Then, after restoring initial info, the only change for the debut album would be:
Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

... a note could have been added to the debut album page to say that the initial CD version which was released as Briand Boursin Rohr had Tumble Down & Faerie Lights included as separate tracks.

Right?

I would also add a note on the band's page that "bio compiled by David (yam yam) from different sources" (or something like this).


P.S. I can't understand the reasons of changes made recently. Confused




Edited by NotAProghead - August 29 2023 at 17:26
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2023 at 18:03
^ I think Mayer was only trying to help by pointing out that the band were known as Briand Boursin Rohr when they released their debut album, but it doesn't seem that he was aware that the version of album they originally released as a CD under that name included 'Tumble Down' & 'Faerie Lights' as separate tracks rather than combined together as it was in the later digital release of the album as The View Inside (the version currently shown on our PA page for the album).

I certainly agree with the solution above, and upon reflection would perhaps also expand the note slightly to say something like: "The tracklisting above, with Tumble Down/Faerie Lights combined as track 2, is taken from the digital version of the album which is available on all the major streaming platforms. The initial CD version which was released as Briand Boursin Rohr had Tumble Down & Faerie Lights included as separate tracks".

I'm not really worried about being credited for compiling the bio. I quite enjoy putting those together when I have a few spare moments lol!
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^ Thanks, I think all pages are correct now. Can you double-check please?

David, I wasn't aware of this thread before, so all I got was Cristi's entries and Mayer corrections/comments, so it was hard to know what to do. Also, the forum was particularly slow yesterday, it was driving me mad and made the job even harder! Sorry if I made something wrong. Embarrassed
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^ Yes Julien, everything looks good to me now. Thanks for re-editing things based on the previous discussion here. Thumbs Up

Mayer was only doing his job as discography auditor when he made his comments, and was perfectly correct to point out that the band were known only by the combined surnames of the three guys who created it when they released their debut album.

Later developments after the guys had chosen a more imaginative band name made the original one less significant than it might otherwise have been though, and the apparent re-release of the debut album digitally under their new name, with tracks 2 & 3 now combined, certainly contributed to this. I think it is made sufficiently clear both in the biography, and now also on our page for the debut album, that the guys originally released the album on CD when they were known only by their combined surnames.

No harm done at all by this. You weren't to know about my submission thread for these guys - it's quite a few weeks old now, and only popped back onto the first page of the suggestions forum after Cristi had added the band a couple of days ago.

The forum was indeed an absolute nightmare the night before last when I was writing my earlier comments. It was taking two to three minutes at least for each page to load, and was driving me nuts too. It's been like this a few times just lately, and I've noticed an abnormally high number of guests on line when this has been happening - more than 1200 on the morning of 24th August, and 570 or so even now, though the forum is running quite smoothly at the moment.

Thanks again for re-editing The View Inside's PA entry. Smile
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^^^ Thanks, guys, for sorting things out. In my opinion everithing's all right now.

Only a note to this:
Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

I'm not really worried about being credited for compiling the bio. I quite enjoy putting those together when I have a few spare moments lol! 
I think it would be better to credit David for at least two reasons:
1. We have the admins' request to ask original writer in case of any changes in bios. Thus crediting could be helpful if one day someone decides to update the band's bio.
2. Genre Teams members, especially those who are quite long on the site, know (or at least have the idea), so to speak, writing abilities of some PA members. Credits are like a warning sign, kind of "oh, it's written by yam yam, he's always very accurate, lest to stay damned for all time I'd better beware of making changes without knowing his opinion". Smile  
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Updated releases information for "A Descent into the Unknown" by Daniel Cross.
Also, this album should be categorized as an EP.

Releases Information:
Songwriting: Daniel Cross

Format: Digital EP
Released: March 19, 2023
Recorded: April 2021 - February 2023


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=78570
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/album/24A1LSdbAur7PVCv15gKhD?si=HIsYIa8QTEi19BFwCNzcIg
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_cross_official/

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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^^^ Thanks, guys, for sorting things out. In my opinion everithing's all right now.

Only a note to this:
Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

I'm not really worried about being credited for compiling the bio. I quite enjoy putting those together when I have a few spare moments lol! 
I think it would be better to credit David for at least two reasons:
1. We have the admins' request to ask original writer in case of any changes in bios. Thus crediting could be helpful if one day someone decides to update the band's bio.
2. Genre Teams members, especially those who are quite long on the site, know (or at least have the idea), so to speak, writing abilities of some PA members. Credits are like a warning sign, kind of "oh, it's written by yam yam, he's always very accurate, lest to stay damned for all time I'd better beware of making changes without knowing his opinion". Smile  
Yes, that does make perfect sense to me. It's always useful for other users of the site to know who wrote an artist's biography. I always assume that the person who is thanked for the artist addition at the bottom of the page wrote the bio if no other credit is given, but that is often not the case in reality.

So, if someone wants to add the same line that has been included in several other biographies that I have prepared "Biography compiled by David (yam yam) from various sources.", I am quite happy for this to happen.

As far as getting my permission to update a biography that I've written, I'm not too concerned about that. I'm well into my senior years now, and am not going to live forever lol! As long as the name of the person who makes the update is included in the credits as well (so I can blame them if they mess it up LOL), then updating a bio I've written is fine by me. Smile
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^ Thanks Julien. Smile
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Updated bio for Daniel Cross.

DANIEL CROSS is a multi-instrumentalist from the United States that made his first appearance in the prog scene in 2023 with the release of his debut EP titled A Descent into the Unknown. This EP consists of only two tracks, one being over thirty minutes in length. Additionally, DANIEL CROSS is listed as the only performer on the entire album, making this a truly solo album. The album is also fully instrumental, with keyboards being almost exclusively the lead instrument. Though being instrumental, the album tells the story of a crew navigating the unpredictable seas, encountering a diverse range of challenging situations. In the same year, DANIEL CROSS unveiled his inaugural album, "Tales from the Forgotten Realm," featuring four tracks ranging between three and eleven minutes in length. While not strictly a concept album, this record subtly weaves its tracks around medieval imagery. The transformation from his debut EP to this first full-length offering is distinctly evident in the album's stylistic nuances. While it maintains its core of keyboard and mellotron-dominated compositions, "Tales from the Forgotten Realm" embraces a darker undertone, marking a noticeable departure toward a less sanguine musical direction. DANIEL CROSS' music will best appeal to fans of instrumental symphonic prog, especially those who have a strong preference for keyboard-driven compositions.

Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=12449


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^ Thanks, done.

Is it possible to provide also Daniel's photo?
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81266

- Andreas Wettergreen Strømman Prestmo / vocals, guitars, bass, synth, organ, glockenspiel, percussion
- Henrik Harmer / drums, percussion, synth, backing vocals
- Regin Meyer / flute, organ, piano, backing vocals
- Jon Andre Nilsen / bass, backing vocals
- Thomas Hagen Kaldhol / guitars, mandolin, electronics and sound effects, backing vocals
- Aleksandra Morozova / vocals

With:
- Lars Fredrik Frøislie / keys, organ, mellotron, piano, synth
- Kristoffer Momrak / synth
- Håkon Oftung / organ, clavinet, mellotron, strings, electric piano, synth
- Ingjerd Moi / backing vocals (4)

1. Prologue (1:06)
2. The Tale of Father Robin (1:16)
3. Eleision Forest (11:57)
4. The Death of the Fair Maiden (8:03)
5. Twilight Fields (15:24)
6. Unicorn (8:29)

Total Time 46:15
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^ Thanks, Mayer, done.
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81936

Cover: Deja Indigo Yerger
Label: Self
Format: CD, Digital 
September 7, 2023
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Updated track listing and releases information for "Sunchild with Karfagen and Hoggwash: Live In France 2012".

I believe the album title should be changed to "Sunchild / Karfagen / Hoggwash: Live in France 2012".

1. A Winter Tale (11:40)
2. Rain Drops (6:25)
3. Ode to a New Life (6:00)
4. Another Friday Night (8:05)
5. The Invisible Line (Part 1) (6:26)
6. Midnight Train (7:24)
7. Labyrinth (6:09)
8. Post Cards from the Past (Part 2) (14:04)
9. Astoria (5:25)
10. Meddley (11:25) *
- a. Salvadore
- b. Marvellous Dance
- c. Spirit of Revelation
- d. Close to Heaven
11. Post Cards from the Past (Part 2) (Different Stages) (14:19) *

* Available on Bandcamp release

Total Time: 97:47

Releases Information:
Recorded Live: Crescendo Fest 2012 August (Saint-Palais-Sur-Mer, France)
Released: June 18, 2015
Format: Digital


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=50133
Bandcamp - https://antonykalugin.bandcamp.com/album/live-in-france
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/album/5Csb6wFeJpNwqXiYVX8fhi?si=yr0hNcE4TZGkWhXB8TpWtg

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A couple of questions:
1. Meddley (with two "d") - is it a misspeling? (On Bandcamp too)
2. Two tracks marked as * Available on Bandcamp release. Where these tracks are unavailable? On Spotify? (I can't check it because Spotify is unavailable in Russia.)

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Updated track listing and releases information for "Breaking Free Tour Live by AKP (Karfagen / Sunchild)" by Karfagen.

I believe the album should be moved to "Live Albums" instead of "Videos" because the DVD is considered to be a bonus. Also, the album title should be updated to "Karfagen / Sunchild: 10th Anniversary Breaking Free Tour Live".

CD / Digital Track Listing:
1. Stars of Cardiff Bay (10:58)
2. Sylph (5:00)
3. Mirrors (4:14)
4. Rain Drops (6:26)
5. Magician's Theater (6:35)
6. Magician's Spell (5:59)
7. Isolation (Part 4) (10:18)
8. Journey Through the Looking Glass (8:31)
9. A Winter Tale (Part 2) (5:27)
10. Visionary Sights (4:36)
11. As Far as the Eye Can See (11:04)

Total Time 79:08

Bonus DVD Track Listing:
1. Stars of Cardiff Bay
2. Sylph / Mirrors
3. Juggler & the Cloud
4. Magician's Theater / Spell
5. Raindrops
6. Yuletide
7. Isolation (Part 4)
8. Journey Through the Looking Glass / A Winter Tale (Part 2)
9. Visionary Sights / As Far as the Eye Can See
- Bonus Footage (Studio Live):
10. Alight Again / Magician's Theater / Visionary Sights

Total Time 106:00

+ 10th Anniversary Breaking Free Tour Live & Gnomology - mp3

Releases Information:

Released: May 15, 2017
Recorded: April 15, 2016
Format: CD+DVD, Digital


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54928
Bandcamp - https://antonykalugin.bandcamp.com/album/breaking-free-tour-live

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I just saw that my suggestion for the original bands name that was accepted by Julien was changed to the original after David brought up all kind of reasons, well here is my take on it! Briand Boursin Rohr in 2019 came up with an idea and a single which then became an album in 2020 with a CD that was called "The View Inside" on the CD cover you can clearly see 12 songs not 11 and the name of the band was very clear "Briand Boursin Rohr" they even appear on a seperate page on "Discogs" than the later band "The View Inside" that have their own page! let's say that this band would have been added in 2020 to PA it would clearly be "Briand Boursin Rohr" since nobody here has a crystal ball and can see the future that in 2023 they'll have an album and the band's name will be then changed to "The View Inside" the list of the songs on the original CD should be 12 songs and NOT 11 songs as it shows now which is taken from Bandcamp much later in time, I'm sorry that you guys had a very long debate about it but the outcome is 100% wrong! it should be on top of the page The View Inside / ex Briand Boursin Rohr and on the 2nd album the title should be The View Inside: Strange Destinations IMHO! David and many others in different arguments bring up Discogs so why now with all the photos of the front and back of the 1st album on Discogs we wasting time and debating the obvious and Discogs is not the final outcome? David's argument is based on 2023 Bandcamp my argument is based on a CD (Discogs) from 2020 it's NOT "the chicken or the egg" argument

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I believe the title for "Phantasmagoria" by Karfagen should be updated to "Phantasmagoria (Images, Sketches, and Elements 1)"

Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69384

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Updated track listing for "Fly By Night" by Rush to include the full sub-tracks of "By-Tor and the Snow Dog".

1. Anthem (4:10)
2. Best I Can (3:24)
3. Beneath, Between and Behind (3:00)
4. By-Tor and the Snow Dog (8:57) :
- i. At the Tobes of Hades
- ii. Across the Styx
- iii. Of the Battle
- i) Challenge and Defiance
- ii) 7/4 War Furor
- iii) Aftermath
- iv) Hymn of Triumph
- iv. Epilogue
5. Fly by Night (3:20)
6. Making Memories (2:56)
7. Rivendell (5:00)
8. In the End (6:51)

Total Time 37:38


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3068
Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/master/7478-Rush-Fly-By-Night
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_by_Night_(album)

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