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I didn't notice that a version of "Creeping Death / Jump in the Fire" already existed under Boxset/Compilation. Therefore, the version I added under Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo can be removed.

However, I believe the Boxset/Compilation version should still be updated.

Songs / Tracks Listing
- Creeping Death:
1. Creeping Death (6:36)
2. Am I Evil? (7:45)
3. Blitzkrieg (3:35)

- Jump in the Fire:
4. Jump in the Fire (4:39)
5. Seek and Destroy (7:04)
6. Phantom Lord (4:52)

Total Time 34:31

Line-up / Musicians
- Cliff Burton / bass, backing vocals
- Lars Ulrich / drums
- Kirk Hammett / lead guitar
- James Hetfield / rhythm guitar, lead vocals

Releases information
Track 2 Writers: Sean Harris, Brian Tatler
Track 3 Writers: Ian Jones, Jim Sirotto, Brian Ross

Tracks 5 and 6 are not actual live tracks, they were studio tracks with crowd noise mixed in.

CD Music For Nations - CD 12KUT 112 (England, 1987)
12" Popron - 50 021-1 / Vertigo - 842 219-1 (Czechoslovakia, 1990)

E&O Team: Hell! I've managed it yesterday, sent PM to admins and wrote comments to your post. And after several minutes the site stopped working (SQL error or something like this). Now I see all my changes are lost (it seems M@X had to roll back the site) and I have to do it once again.


Edited by NotAProghead - April 17 2023 at 16:40
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote graysnk2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2023 at 15:17
Hey,

Not so much an error but missing albums for the band SQUID 

Town Centre EP released in 2019
O Monolith album released in 2023
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2023 at 16:31
^ Like any registered PA member you may add them by yourself.
PA users add albums, that's how the site works all these years.

Please follow PA guidelines (they are pretty simple actually) when adding albums.

Edit: just follow this link. Thanks!


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Originally posted by Prog Network Prog Network wrote:

I didn't notice that a version of "Creeping Death / Jump in the Fire" already existed under Boxset/Compilation. Therefore, the version I added under Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo can be removed.

However, I believe the Boxset/Compilation version should still be updated.

Songs / Tracks Listing
- Creeping Death:
1. Creeping Death (6:36)
2. Am I Evil? (7:45)
3. Blitzkrieg (3:35)

- Jump in the Fire:
4. Jump in the Fire (4:39)
5. Seek and Destroy (7:04)
6. Phantom Lord (4:52)

Total Time 34:31

Line-up / Musicians
- Cliff Burton / bass, backing vocals
- Lars Ulrich / drums
- Kirk Hammett / lead guitar
- James Hetfield / rhythm guitar, lead vocals

Releases information
Track 2 Writers: Sean Harris, Brian Tatler
Track 3 Writers: Ian Jones, Jim Sirotto, Brian Ross

Tracks 5 and 6 are not actual live tracks, they were studio tracks with crowd noise mixed in.

CD Music For Nations - CD 12KUT 112 (England, 1987)
12" Popron - 50 021-1 / Vertigo - 842 219-1 (Czechoslovakia, 1990)

E&O Team: Hell! I've managed it yesterday, sent PM to admins and wrote comments to your post. And after several minutes the site stopped working (SQL error or something like this). Now I see all my changes are lost (it seems M@X had to roll back the site) and I have to do it once again.

Thanks, done (I hope). New entry will be deleted by admins.

Some notes:
1. I moved this release to Singles/EPs.
2. I left "old" track timings because many issues have them.
3. I didn't add the line "Tracks 5 and 6 are not actual live tracks, they were studio tracks with crowd noise mixed in" because I didn't find "official" confirmation to this fact.
Yes, it's rumoured here and there (including the sole review on PA), but we can't rely on rumours.

And please keep in mind in future:
4. If we point out authors (of covers in this case), it makes sense to credit authors of ALL tracks (for consistency).
5. If the album has many reissues I usually add the line "Numerous reissues" in the Release info.
Otherwise in our case it looks like this EP was released only in the UK (1987) and in Czechoslovakia (1990) and nowhere else.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gordy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2023 at 05:53
I'm sorry to note that synthesist Mark Shreeve passed away last year on August 31st, and we should update his biography to reflect that.

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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

Originally posted by Prog Network Prog Network wrote:

I didn't notice that a version of "Creeping Death / Jump in the Fire" already existed under Boxset/Compilation. Therefore, the version I added under Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo can be removed.

However, I believe the Boxset/Compilation version should still be updated.

Songs / Tracks Listing
- Creeping Death:
1. Creeping Death (6:36)
2. Am I Evil? (7:45)
3. Blitzkrieg (3:35)

- Jump in the Fire:
4. Jump in the Fire (4:39)
5. Seek and Destroy (7:04)
6. Phantom Lord (4:52)

Total Time 34:31

Line-up / Musicians
- Cliff Burton / bass, backing vocals
- Lars Ulrich / drums
- Kirk Hammett / lead guitar
- James Hetfield / rhythm guitar, lead vocals

Releases information
Track 2 Writers: Sean Harris, Brian Tatler
Track 3 Writers: Ian Jones, Jim Sirotto, Brian Ross

Tracks 5 and 6 are not actual live tracks, they were studio tracks with crowd noise mixed in.

CD Music For Nations - CD 12KUT 112 (England, 1987)
12" Popron - 50 021-1 / Vertigo - 842 219-1 (Czechoslovakia, 1990)

E&O Team: Hell! I've managed it yesterday, sent PM to admins and wrote comments to your post. And after several minutes the site stopped working (SQL error or something like this). Now I see all my changes are lost (it seems M@X had to roll back the site) and I have to do it once again.

Thanks, done (I hope). New entry will be deleted by admins.

Some notes:
1. I moved this release to Singles/EPs.
2. I left "old" track timings because many issues have them.
3. I didn't add the line "Tracks 5 and 6 are not actual live tracks, they were studio tracks with crowd noise mixed in" because I didn't find "official" confirmation to this fact.
Yes, it's rumoured here and there (including the sole review on PA), but we can't rely on rumours.

And please keep in mind in future:
4. If we point out authors (of covers in this case), it makes sense to credit authors of ALL tracks (for consistency).
5. If the album has many reissues I usually add the line "Numerous reissues" in the Release info.
Otherwise in our case it looks like this EP was released only in the UK (1987) and in Czechoslovakia (1990) and nowhere else.


Thanks, but I believe the writing credits should be moved to "Releases Information".

Writing Credits:
- James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich (1,4-6)
Dave Mustaine (4,6)
Cliff Burton, Kirk Hammett (1)
Sean Harris, Brian Tatler (2)
Ian Jones, Jim Sirotto, Brian Ross (3)


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63129

E&O Team: Thanks, but please let me not believe you. Smile
Both ways are not against PA rules, but much more convenient to see writers near the tracks' titles.


Edited by NotAProghead - April 18 2023 at 15:27
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The releases "Metal Up Your Ass demo", "Horsemen Of The Apocalypse demo", and "Ride The Lightning demo" should be removed since they are all unofficial releases.

Progarchives (Metal Up Your Ass demo) - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23505
Discogs (Metal Up Your Ass demo) - https://www.discogs.com/release/1128562-Metallica-Metal-Up-Your-Ass
Progarchives (Horsemen Of The Apocalypse demo) - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23506
Discogs (Horsemen Of The Apocalypse demo) - https://www.discogs.com/release/11584090-Metallica-Horsemen-Of-The-Apocalypse
Progarchives (Ride The Lightning demo) - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23507
Discogs (Ride The Lightning demo) - https://www.discogs.com/master/692179-Metallica-Ride-The-Lightning-Demo

E&O Team: Thanks, but I don't think we should delete everything blocked for sale on Discogs.
It's often a tricky thing to decide is some album bootleg or not.
I tend to keep these demos alive, at least until their evil nature will be confirmed by killer arguments.


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Updated track listing, line-up, and releases information for "Whiplash" by Metallica.

- 12" Single:
1. Jump in the Fire (4:38)
2. Whiplash (Special Neckbrace Remix) (4:10)
3. Seek and Destroy (Live) (7:02)
4. Phantom Lord (Live) (4:53)

Total Time 20:43

- Cassette (Single Sided):
1. Jump in the Fire (4:38)
2. Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth) (4:14)
3. Whiplash (Special Neckbrace Remix) (4:10)
4. Seek and Destroy (Live) (7:02)
5. Phantom Lord (Live) (4:53)

Total Time 24:57

Line-up:
- James Hetfield / lead vocals, rhythm guitar
- Kirk Hammett / lead guitar
- Cliff Burton / bass, backing vocals
- Lars Ulrich / drums

Releases Information:

Producer: Paul Curcio

12" Megaforce Records - MRS-04 (US, 1984)
Cassette (Single Sided) Megaforce Records - MRST-04 (US, 1985)
12" Picture Disc Megaforce Records - MRS 04 (US, 1987)


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20013
Discogs (12") - https://www.discogs.com/release/394613-Metallica-Whiplash
Discogs (Cassette) - https://www.discogs.com/release/2014418-Metallica-Whiplash
Discogs (Picture Disc) - https://www.discogs.com/release/9066045-Metallica-Whiplash

E&O Team: Thanks, done.


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Small update to "Creeping Death" by Metallica. I've added a total time to the track listing, and updated the releases information.

Total Time 17:57

Releases Information:

Writing Credits:
- James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich, Cliff Burton, Kirk Hammett (1)
- Sean Harris, Brian Tatler (2)
- Ian Jones, Jim Sirotto, Brian Ross (3)

12" Music For Nations - 12 KUT 112 (UK, 1984)


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20015
Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/1408736-Metallica-Creeping-Death


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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6094: 2013 album The Weight Of The World.
This should be: The Weight of the World
Source: https://sanguinehum.bandcamp.com/album/the-weight-of-the-world

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Originally posted by Xymph Xymph wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6094: 2013 album The Weight Of The World.
This should be: The Weight of the World
Source: https://sanguinehum.bandcamp.com/album/the-weight-of-the-world


Also added info about deluxe edition.

Strangely enough, the tracklisting is wrong on the bandcamp page (tracks 3 & 4) are erroneously switched. In fact, titles are switched, but NOT the audio!
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Originally posted by Prog Network Prog Network wrote:

Small update to "Creeping Death" by Metallica. I've added a total time to the track listing, and updated the releases information.

Total Time 17:57

Releases Information:

Writing Credits:
- James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich, Cliff Burton, Kirk Hammett (1)
- Sean Harris, Brian Tatler (2)
- Ian Jones, Jim Sirotto, Brian Ross (3)

12" Music For Nations - 12 KUT 112 (UK, 1984)


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20015
Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/1408736-Metallica-Creeping-Death

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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Thanks, done. Do you think the line-up is accurate?
It's mostly accurate, but there are a couple small additions I can make. Thumbs Up

- James Hetfield / rhythm guitar, lead vocals
- Kirk Hammett / lead guitar
- Cliff Burton / bass guitar, backing vocals
- Lars Ulrich / drums, percussion

Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20015
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creeping_Death
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11792: Full title is 'Scattering Crows Live In Europe 2004'.

Not sure how you're going to format the track titles, but we currently have no timings or musicians info.

My rough guess would be something like this:

CD1
1. The Rookie (5:56)
2. Moving Targets (5:42)
3. Jungle Ride (7:33)
4. The Perception Of Johnny Punter (11:08)
5. Lost Plot (6:09)
6. Numbers (5:37)
7. Zoo Class (5:05)
8. Old Crow (5:25)
9. Tiki 4 (8:08)

Total time 60:43

CD2
10. Cliché (7:57)
11. Innocent Party (6:53)
12. Vigil In A Wilderness Of Mirrors (5:19)
13. Plague Of Ghosts (16:43)
       i Old Haunts
       ii Digging Deep
       iii Chocolate Frogs
       iv Waving At Stars
14. Raingods Dancing / Wake Up Call (Make It Happen) (9:38)
15. Medley (15:47)
       i So Fellini
       ii Lucky
       iii Internal Exile
       iv Market Square Heroes
16. The Company (4:35)

Total time 66:52

- Fish / vocals

With:
- Steve Vantsis / bass guitar
- John Tonks / drums
- Winston McGilvray / drums (5, 8, 13)
- Frank Usher / guitars
- Bruce Watson / guitars
- Tony Turrell / keyboards
- Danny Gillan / backing vocals, acoustic guitar

2CD  Chocolate Frog Records - CFVP021CD (2005, UK & Europe)

Live recording from The Town And Country Club, Bradford, England, April 6th 2004.
Tracks 5, 8, 13 recorded at Robin 2, Bilston, England, February 18th 2004.
Mixed at The Studio, Haddington.

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Another one with no timings, and uncertain formatting of a couple of track titles (to me at least lol!) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3844.

CD1 (57:49)
1. Vigil (9:49) 
2. Credo (7:58) 
3. State Of Mind (6:57) 
4. Tongues (8:02) 
5. Family Business (7:14) 
6. Incubus (11:10) 
7. Shadowplay (6:39)

CD2 (62:42)
8. 30+ Intro / Dear Friend (7:03) 
9. Lucky (5:25) 
10. 'Faith Healer Intro' / Big Wedge (7:36) 
11. Fugazi (8:50) 
12. Heart Of Lothian (5:36) 
13. The Company (5:21) 
14. Forgotten Sons (12:33) 
15. Internal Exile / Market Square Heroes (10:18) 

Total time 120:31

2CD  Battleside Ltd - FIS 003 (1993, UK),  Griffin Music - GN 1031-2 (1993, Canada)
2CD  Reissue  Chocolate Frog Records - CFVP003CD (2000, Europe)

Recorded at Haddington Corn Exchange 3rd Nov 1991.

E&O Team: Thanks, done. My script takes care of the formatting... so don't worry about that. Wink


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Okay! If you believe that they should be kept then I might as well update them. LOL

Metal Up Your Ass demo:

The release date should be updated to 2005 as well.

1. Hit the Lights (4:19)
2. The Mechanix (4:33)
3. Motorbreath (3:22)
4. Seek and Destroy (4:55)
5. Metal Militia (5:19)
6. Jump in the Fire (3:52)
7. Phantom Lord (3:37)
8. Hit the Lights (4:29)

Releases Information:

Tracks 1-7 are from the "No Life Til Leather" Metallica demo.
Track 8 is the original version of "Hit the Lights" from the "Metal Massacre" compilation.

Recorded in 1982.

LP Music For Nations - MFN 7-1 / MUA 666 (Germany, 2005) [multiple color vinyls]


Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/master/1268810-Metallica-Metal-Up-Your-Ass
Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23505 


Horsemen of the Apocalypse demo:

The title should be updated to “Horsemen of the Apokalypse”. Also, the release date should be updated to 1986.

- 1986 LP:
1. Killing Time
2. Let It Loose
3. 4 Horsemen
4. See and Destroy
5. Metal Militia
6. Phantom Lord
7. Fight Fire with Fire
8. Ride the Lightning
9. Creeping Death
10. The Prince (live)

- 1991 CD (Not On Label - FM 6000):
1. The Mechanics (Outtake `82) (4:30)
2. Killing Time (Outtake `82, Never Released) (2:46)
3. Let it Loose (Outtake `82, Never Released) (3:07)
4. Seek and Destroy (Demo `82) (4:52)
5. Metall Militia (Demo `82) (5:14)
6. Phantom Lord (Demo `82) (3:33)
7. You and Me (Outtake `82, Never Released) (4:17)
8. The Mechanics (II) (Outtake `82, Hith A Voice at the End) (4:07)
9. Rock Me (Outtake `82, Never Released) (2:40)
10. Hit the Lights (Demo `82) (4:10)
11. Motorbreath (Demo `82) (3:17)
12. Jump in the Fire (Demo `82) (3:54)
13. Fight Fire with Fire (Demo `83) (4:46)
14. Ride the Lightning (Garage Demo `83) (6:20)
15. When Hell Freezes Over (Garage Demo `83, Roots Track From "Trapped Under Ice") (8:04)
16. Creeping Death (Garage Demo `83) (6:44)

Total Time 72:18

- 1991 CD (Observation Records - OB 008):
1. Hit the Lights (4:22)
2. The Mechanix (4:30)
3. Motorbreath (3:20)
4. Jump in the Fire (3:54)
5. Seek and Destroy (4:35)
6. Metal Militia (5:21)
7. Phantom Lord (3:34)
8. Killing Time (2:30)
9. Let It Loose (3:10)

Total Time 35:16

Releases information:

- 1986 LP:
Tracks 1,2: Rehersals, 1982
Tracks 3-5: Demos No Life `Til Leather, 1982
Tracks 7-9: Ride the Lightning demos, 1983
Track 10: Live in San Francisco, 29.11.1982 (Diamond Head cover)

The cover art is "Horsemen of the Apocalypse" by Carlos Norte, taken from a 1981 Verkerke poster.

LP Collectorecord Ltd - 1986-125 (Germany, 1986)
CD Not On Label - FM 6000 (Germany, 1991)
CD Observation Records - OB 008 (Germany, 1991)

Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/master/492131-Metallica-Horsemen-Of-The-Apokalypse
Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23506


Ride The Lightning demo:

The release date should be updated to 2010 as well.

1. Trapped Under Ice
2. Fight Fire with Fire
3. Creeping Death
4. Ride the Lightning
5. Fade to Black
6. For Whom the Bell Tolls
7. When Hell Freezes Over (Ktulu)

Releases Information:
LP Not On Label (Metallica) - R-11-21 (Japan, 2010)


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23507
Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/2920859-Metallica-Ride-The-Lightning-Demo


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This one is just lacking the musicians info: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7726.

Discogs doesn't list the musicians who featured on the page itself, but the info can be gotten from the CD booklet image.

- Fish / vocals

With:
- John Marter / drums
- Irvin Duguid / keyboards
- Frank Usher / guitars
- Robin Boult / guitars
- Zoe Nicholas / backing vocals
- Susie Webb / backing vocals

Recorded live at Muziekcentrum, Enschede, Holland on June 28th/29th 2002 (Company Europe convention).
2CD Chocolate Frog Records - CFVP016CD (2003, Europe)

Edit: The bass player is missing from the above line up, but if you watch the band introduction in the first few seconds of this video of footage from the DVD that was released featuring the same two concerts at Muziekcentrum that summer, you can hear the announcer mention Steve Vantsis, who has played bass on 6 studio albums and 8 world tours in his 20+ years with Fish.

So, I think we can quite safely add:

- Steve Vantsis / bass

to the above line up. Smile


Edited by yam yam - April 19 2023 at 21:16
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^ Thanks, David, done.
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Originally posted by Prog Network Prog Network wrote:

Okay! If you believe that they should be kept then I might as well update them. LOL

Metal Up Your Ass demo:

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Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/master/1268810-Metallica-Metal-Up-Your-Ass
Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23505 


Horsemen of the Apocalypse demo:

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Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/master/492131-Metallica-Horsemen-Of-The-Apokalypse
Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23506


Ride The Lightning demo:

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Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23507
Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/2920859-Metallica-Ride-The-Lightning-Demo

"One way or another"? LOL
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I'll better ask admins should these singles live or die, then act accordingly.

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