SR IV: This is the end, my only friend, the end.

MovingPictures07 wrote: TGM: Orb wrote: I find it difficult to believe that someone who called Genesis' Just A Job To Do lyrically indecipherable gave five stars to The Lamb. I mean, how hard is it to work out it's a hitman's perspective? (not very). Also, I think Genesis is a good album, but I'm odd like that. It's an alright album, but I never really listen to it. Good for what it is, anyway, but I'd never give it a decent rating here... simply because of the guidelines.

I reckon I will... I think it's a must-have album for the general music fan, and I think it's far more daring and edgy than it's given credit for (I mean, take Mama and Home By The Sea... those are definitely not pop), and it really is an album with a lot of the hallmarks of 70s Genesis, even if they're pretty well-disguised on it. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't give it a five here (or for that matter most places), but I think it's still a band which is progressing its own sound in the way that Rush and Yes were in the early 80s, and in the process, they come up with both some great pop and some experimental stuff.

MovingPictures07 wrote: TGM: Orb wrote: MovingPictures07 wrote: TGM: Orb wrote: I find it difficult to believe that someone who called Genesis' Just A Job To Do lyrically indecipherable gave five stars to The Lamb. I mean, how hard is it to work out it's a hitman's perspective? (not very). Also, I think Genesis is a good album, but I'm odd like that. It's an alright album, but I never really listen to it. Good for what it is, anyway, but I'd never give it a decent rating here... simply because of the guidelines. I reckon I will... I think it's a must-have album for the general music fan, and I think it's far more daring and edgy than it's given credit for (I mean, take Mama and Home By The Sea... those are definitely not pop), and it really is an album with a lot of the hallmarks of 70s Genesis, even if they're pretty well-disguised on it. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't give it a five here (or for that matter most places), but I think it's still a band which is progressing its own sound in the way that Rush and Yes were in the early 80s, and in the process, they come up with both some great pop and some experimental stuff. I completely understand that. I suppose it's just not so much to my taste as Rush's 80 stuff, whereas the only Yes 80's stuff that I like when I'm in the right mood is 90125. I agree that it is similar to Yes's 80s period, but Rush's has a different stylistic feel to it that keeps it from being pop but also gives it a different label than Yes and Genesis's stuff. I'd say Rush's is more similar to KC's in that regard.

Interesting views. I thinks 80s Crimson is somewhat different to them all, just because it's progressive new wave rather than real 'rock', but at the same time it's got a lot of the sound-sensibility which I'd have associated with jazz. It's not really progressive rock, in my view, but definitely experimental.

Rush definitely were art-rock/prog-rock at the beginning of the 80s, and I think they certainly kept the art but dropped the prog by GUP (in my view, a perfectly good art-pop album). Don't know much of them after that, admittedly, so I can't judge there. I've only given a listen or two to Tormato and bits of 90125 (but Drama is pretty excellent), but I sort of liked those, and felt there was definitely something unique in there.

All in all, I think the big-prog-bands-went-pop thing in the late seventies is a bit of an exaggeration. While they maybe softened a bit and weren't putting out albums as consistently eclectic as they had previously, I think Genesis, Yes, Crimson, Rush etc. remained distinctly artsy, and they all put out some very individual and credible music.

Edit: oh, and I just put up ze review. Felt it was one of my leaner ones, which is always nice.


Edited by TGM: Orb - May 02 2009 at 17:52

6 1/2 hours of studying for exams = 

Edited by Henry Plainview - May 03 2009 at 01:19

birdwithteeth11 wrote: 6 1/2 hours of studying the piano =

Ricochet wrote: The new 65days, From Monument To Masses, Gregor Samsa, Long Distance Calling, Mono, We Vs. Death. So far.

I get the new Mono album. It was better than the album before that.
Don't have the Long Distance yet, but some people are talking about it, so I could be missing out not having it.

Petrovsk Mizinski wrote: Ricochet wrote: The new 65days, From Monument To Masses, Gregor Samsa, Long Distance Calling, Mono, We Vs. Death. So far. I get the new Mono album. It was better than the album before that. Don't have the Long Distance yet, but some people are talking about it, so I could be missing out not having it.

Yes, quite a bit of change in Mono's sound, and it could be one of their best.

Petrovsk Mizinski wrote: I've never heard 65 Days at all, oddly enough. Admittedly, my post rock collection isn't big, but I'm working on it. It seems this weird thing, a lot of the Prog Metal Team guys are into post rock too, goes hand in hand with post metal in a way.

I'm actually surprised you're interested that much in post-rock, didn't it usually get panned by the STC-ists?

My post-rock collection is decent by now, I'm a declared fan.


Edited by Ricochet - May 03 2009 at 02:36

Mmmm, Sigur Ros. I quite like them.

Yeah, but doesn't Jake hate everything?