The PA ProgBand Elimination Game!

Jethro Tull                         10

King Crimson                     4

Jethro Tull                         10

King Crimson                     4

Jethro Tull                         10

King Crimson                     2

No...Audioscrobbler screwed up. Go figure, eh.

Jethro Tull                         9

King Crimson                     1

Sad to see KC go by the wayside.

Well of course KC had to go. It's the one most people would except to win. We need to mix it up now and then, Pat.

Time for Round 4!!

This is a special round, like #3, where it has a theme.

GUITAR TIME


Frank Zappa                 20
Al Di Meola                    20
Mikael Akerfeldt            20
Steve Hillage                20
Allan Holdsworth          20
Robert Fripp                  20
Fred Frith                        20
John Petrucci                 20
Mike Oldfield                  20
John McLaughlin          20

birdwithteeth11 wrote: TGM: Orb wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: He's kinda right about the virtuoso thing, Alex Lifeson wasn't even close to a virtuoso. Skilled, but hardly pulling out insane legato licks like Allan Holdsworth or kick ass alternate picked lines like Al Dimeola.. Peart is the most capable member IMO.. again, while Geddy is skilled, I can think of a million bass players who make him look like a hack. In fact, that's my only beef with Rush to be honest, is their skills being hyped up beyond what they can actually play. See them live and then tell me that. I never said they can't play their own stuff. I'm saying they are made out to be virtuosos, when clearly they are not. Alex Lifeson is hardly Randy Rhoads, Uli Jon Roth or John Petrucci, as Geddy Lee is hardly John Myung or Billy Sheehan. Neil Peart ain't Mike Mangini or Virgil Donati either. And BTW, I don't think they are overrated... they are just as important to prog as anything that Rob happens to be a fanboy of

ELP, Yes, Genesis, Floyd and *perhaps* also Tull aside, I agree. They're definitely a bit better known than VDGG, though not as ultra-amazing. Who knows, perhaps Hammill's vocal influences might actually end up being more influential than Rush.
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Oh, so 30+ years down the road isn't enough time to tell who's more influential?
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Hammill was certainly pioneering and expanding the voice. Equally, Jaxon the sax, and Banton and Evans, though somewhat overlooked, are interesting players. It seems possible to me that might in the long term prove a more significant impact than influencing a load of mediocre bands a little down the road and getting a bit more mainstream critical acclaim/commercial success. Bowie and Fish were really influenced by Hammill, and some of the odd new wavey work on World Record and Still Life, as well as the punk aggression in the vocals has been influential in some circles. Not to mention Plague, which led to the joining of the bits of Supper's Ready.

No question that Rush are the bigger band, but I think VDGG have definitely done more for music, just in so distinctive a way that it's more difficult to copy or build on.

Frank Zappa                 22
Al Di Meola                    20
Mikael Akerfeldt            20
Steve Hillage                20
Allan Holdsworth          20
Robert Fripp                  22
Fred Frith                        22
John Petrucci                 20
Mike Oldfield                  20
John McLaughlin          20