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Hercules 
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 Posted: April 13 2014 at 17:32 |
 Blacksword wrote:
It's their best album imo. It's not as varied or groundbreaking as DSOTM, it's not as well produced or fresh sounding as WYWH, but for some reason it encapsulates mid to late 70's Britian perfectly. It has some of the agression of punk in places, as well as some of the best lyrics Waters ever wrote. Dogs is the ultimate Pink Floyd epic. Far more mature and more edgy than Echoes. |
I don't think so. Echoes is by far the best thing Floyd ever did - one of the best moments in all prog.
Animals is a very fine album, though.
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notesworth
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Posted: April 13 2014 at 17:35 |
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The guitar tone on this album, especially on Sheep, has that big heavy metal feel though the riffs are not actually all that metal-like. |
Strange - my main problem with "Sheep" is the guitar tone is way too wimpy. Finally they get to rock out, what I always wanted to hear, and the guitar sounds way too clean to fit the music.
From what I remember, I liked "Dogs" okay, but not the rest of the album. I'm not a huge Pink Floyd fan. Count Animals as a great example of that. It's not a bad album, it just leaves me cold like most of Floyd's stuff does.
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Kentucky_Hawkwindage
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Posted: April 13 2014 at 17:41 |
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Sheep is awesome,my favorite song on the album.I can find nothing wrong with the song or the guitar,especially it being "wimpy".
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Mirror Image
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Posted: April 13 2014 at 17:53 |
notesworth wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
The guitar tone on this album, especially on Sheep, has that big heavy metal feel though the riffs are not actually all that metal-like. |
Strange - my main problem with "Sheep" is the guitar tone is way too wimpy. Finally they get to rock out, what I always wanted to hear, and the guitar sounds way too clean to fit the music.
From what I remember, I liked "Dogs" okay, but not the rest of the album. I'm not a huge Pink Floyd fan. Count Animals as a great example of that. It's not a bad album, it just leaves me cold like most of Floyd's stuff does. |
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: April 13 2014 at 20:41 |
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I see all love Animals, I think its only a good album, not a masterpiece as Dark Side Of The Moon, WYWH and The Wall.The songs are from awesome to only okay, Sheep is a masterpiece the rest are good to decent. Wow i dont see the greatness all gives it, its not my favorite from Pink Floyd.
I like the album but it is just maybe a strong 7/10.
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I always thought it was Wish You Were Here that was way overrated.
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 13 2014 at 20:46 |
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Let me put it this way, WYWH is the album that works best for a general audience rather than a hardcore PF audience. It has a singalong easy acoustic track and a lush, emotional epic with more of a traditional prog structure. Notice how many hardcore Genesis fans insist Nursery Cryme is their best album while prog fans in general gravitate to SEBTP. WYWH performs the same function with respect to Floyd. It is not surprising that WYWH often gets hailed as their best but as a Floyd fan, I would not agree. There are parts that I find positively dreary though on the whole I do like it a lot.
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 04:32 |
rogerthat wrote:
Let me put it this way, WYWH is the album that works best for a general audience rather than a hardcore PF audience. It has a singalong easy acoustic track and a lush, emotional epic with more of a traditional prog structure. Notice how many hardcore Genesis fans insist Nursery Cryme is their best album while prog fans in general gravitate to SEBTP. WYWH performs the same function with respect to Floyd. It is not surprising that WYWH often gets hailed as their best but as a Floyd fan, I would not agree. There are parts that I find positively dreary though on the whole I do like it a lot.
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There's something missing from Wish you were Here. It feels like an incomplete album to me. My favourite track is actually Welcome to the Machine. I have always loved the intro to SOYCD. More than I like the song anyway.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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M27Barney
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 05:02 |
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SOYCD - intro - is sublime and I also like the simple synthesizer outro as well.....I agree that it sort of lacks something...... (it also has sax which I don't like in most cases)....I still think that it's PF's best recording by a mile though!!!
I would consider myself a hardcore Early Genesis fan - and although NC is excellent - it is bettered by Foxtrot and the incomparible SEBTP...which is in the top five of most peoples Symphonic prog releases!!!
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Chris S
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 05:32 |
Blacksword wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
Let me put it this way, WYWH is the album that works best for a general audience rather than a hardcore PF audience. It has a singalong easy acoustic track and a lush, emotional epic with more of a traditional prog structure. Notice how many hardcore Genesis fans insist Nursery Cryme is their best album while prog fans in general gravitate to SEBTP. WYWH performs the same function with respect to Floyd. It is not surprising that WYWH often gets hailed as their best but as a Floyd fan, I would not agree. There are parts that I find positively dreary though on the whole I do like it a lot.
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There's something missing from Wish you were Here. It feels like an incomplete album to me. My favourite track is actually Welcome to the Machine. I have always loved the intro to SOYCD. More than I like the song anyway. |
WYWH is musical perfection. Hercules makes a good point too in that " Echoes" off Meddle might be their best piece
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 07:19 |
^^^ Entirely a matter of opinion of course, re; WYWH.
I like Echoes...but I just prefer Dogs 
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 09:09 |
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Echoes is my favourite Floyd track and one of my favourites in prog overall. As an overall album, my pick is actually pretty 'boring': DSOTM. Covers the whole gamut of emotions across wide ranging topics while presenting a cohesive experience, which I cannot say Animals quite manages to, as much as I love that album too.
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infandous
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 09:33 |
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Echoes is my favorite Floyd track as well, and in my top 5 songs of all time.
Animals I like about as much as WYWH, and more than Darkside or The Wall. I'm partial to the early material though, and Meddle is my favorite Floyd album of them all.
Animals is a great album though, and Dogs is my favorite track on it, by far (though honestly, all the songs are very good).
Edited by infandous - April 14 2014 at 09:34
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Rick Robson
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 09:48 |
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^Interesting how this thread seems to go on forever... As Blacksword pointed, it's entirely a matter of opinion of course.
Just to prove what i'm saying - One Of These Days is my favourite track of Meddle, and enjoy even more live versions of it like that of PULSE.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 11:45 |
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I prefer it to The Wall...
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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M27Barney
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 13:20 |
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Echoes is good (apart from the crow/raven squawking bit in the middle??)
I'd agree - I haven't heard Animals for a long while now - but I think that it is far better than DSOTM - which I can honestly say must be the most overrated recording on this site!!! (yes the production is brilliant for it's time - but isn't it just a set of mid seventies pop songs?) Lets face it - DSOTM is the one recording that NON prog fans love!!! that is the smoking gun as far as I'm concerned!!!
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Dean
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 13:40 |
...ah, the old elitism argument. 
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What?
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M27Barney
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 13:52 |
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Yep it's a classic argument to be sure - but a valid one none-the-less!!
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 19:13 |
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Non prog fans also love Pink Moon. Does that mean it's an overrated album?
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Mirror Image
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 19:20 |
M27Barney wrote:
Echoes is good (apart from the crow/raven squawking bit in the middle??)
I'd agree - I haven't heard Animals for a long while now - but I think that it is far better than DSOTM - which I can honestly say must be the most overrated recording on this site!!! (yes the production is brilliant for it's time - but isn't it just a set of mid seventies pop songs?) Lets face it - DSOTM is the one recording that NON prog fans love!!! that is the smoking gun as far as I'm concerned!!! |
A good post until you had to slam Dark Side of the Moon for no good reason. It is a masterpiece and it's not because I said it was, it's because it continues to be recognized year after year as one not only by fans, critics, but also other musicians. Steve Hackett said Dark Side of the Moon was his favorite prog album. Pretty high praise indeed coming from someone who worked in another one of the greatest prog bands of all time: Genesis.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: April 14 2014 at 21:27 |
Mirror Image wrote:
M27Barney wrote:
I'd agree - I haven't heard Animals for a long while now - but I think that it is far better than DSOTM - which I can honestly say must be the most overrated recording on this site!!! (yes the production is brilliant for it's time - but isn't it just a set of mid seventies pop songs?) Lets face it - DSOTM is the one recording that NON prog fans love!!! that is the smoking gun as far as I'm concerned!!! |
A good post until you had to slam Dark Side of the Moon for no good reason. It is a masterpiece and it's not because I said it was, it's because it continues to be recognized year after year as one not only by fans, critics, but also other musicians. Steve Hackett said Dark Side of the Moon was his favorite prog album. Pretty high praise indeed coming from someone who worked in another one of the greatest prog bands of all time: Genesis. |
Dark Side of the Moon is loved by an unprecedented number of non-prog fans and prog fans alike -- that is known as "universal praise", if you weren't aware. Unprecedented and universal, and according to billboard.com:
"On March 17, 1973, a band in musical transition named Pink Floyd hit the Top 200 chart with the release of its new album, "Dark Side of the Moon." It entered the chart at No. 95, the top debut that week. And then a funny thing happened: It never left. Or almost never, anyway.More than 14 years later -- 736 weeks to be precise -- in July 1988, it finally fell off The Billboard 200. Add in a later run on that chart and another 759 weeks on the Top Pop Catalog Albums chart, and Pink Floyd, with this issue, reaches the staggering plane of 1,500 weeks on the charts."
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Echoes is good (apart from the crow/raven squawking bit in the middle??) |
You obviously weren't a teenager in the 70s. That section is the best part of the trip.
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