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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 16:53
Nice job Alex, thanks for all the work you put into this.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 18:22
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

 
I'm expecting several in 2011...


No kidding, I have more 2011 releases from just the last 2 weeks than I have 2010 releases.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 19:08
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Interestingly, the UZ album was the only 2010 prog I owned for most of the year. I got into the djent stuff, but none of that made the top 10. Toward the end of the year I start sampling albums and had a few nice finds.
 
But no masterpieces for me in 2010.
 
I'm expecting several in 2011. Deconstruction samples sound unworldly.
What are those samples like since I loved Ki but foun Addicted a bit boring?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 20:23
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 20:24
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

 
I'm expecting several in 2011...


No kidding, I have more 2011 releases from just the last 2 weeks than I have 2010 releases.

Which ones might be worth checking out?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 21:00
Excellent work Alex. Great to see 2 or my choices in the top 10. Certainly means there is a lot for me to explore. As mentioned by other posters, a strange year for prog. I hate comparing but 2009 was an exceptional year for prog releases whereas 2010 was imo not quite as diverse. Still a wonderful top 10 which inspires me to take another listen Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 22:01
Thanks for all the work and effort Alex ! Clap
An interesting top 10 for sure.I need to re-visit Clivages.  By the way Steve at Cuneiform Records was going to E-Mail Daniel from Univers Zero to give him the news.Kind of cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 01:01
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The cover images are now banners leading to the respective album pages.

The Iridule image leads to Aquarius
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 01:52
Originally posted by m2thek m2thek wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The cover images are now banners leading to the respective album pages.

The Iridule image leads to Aquarius


Thanks mate, I've repaired it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 06:36
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:



the only real surprise on that list was Agalloch. That album isn't remotely near good. It is nothing but a shadow of the band's past releases, quality-wise. But you know what they say: hipsters gonna hipster, lol.


I don't mean to imply you have terrible taste in music, but Marrow of the Spirit is their best so far.



Also Dream Theater sucks Cool


As a matter of fact, I know you are one of the few (if not the only one) who thinks like that Cooling. LOL Even Brian, who puts that guy on an ivory tower, kind of thinks like me.

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Brian also put it #2 on his list for MMA, though.  And Kevin agrees with me that it's better than The Mantle (it just took him a  while)
 
I hope you know that such a comparison is like saying Union is better than CTTE or that Systematic is better than I&W or that Invisible Touch is better than SEBTP.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Just sayin' . . . . .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 08:42
This thread needs to be stickied!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 10:38
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

 
I'm expecting several in 2011...


No kidding, I have more 2011 releases from just the last 2 weeks than I have 2010 releases.

Which ones might be worth checking out?


So far the brightest spot is the album I added yesterday Pitom - Blasphemy and Other Serious Crimes

I also picked up Faust - Something Dirty on a whim which I enjoy more than I thought I would.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 11:36
So basically we've got four main genres in the top: avant-prog, metal, fusion and RPI. What happened with the other genres? Anyone wants to comment on that?

I know Haken is in Heavy and Zeuhl is sepparated from RIO/Avant, but let's not think of that for a while.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 12:29
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:




Brian also put it #2 on his list for MMA, though.  And Kevin agrees with me that it's better than The Mantle (it just took him a  while)
 
I hope you know that such a comparison is like saying Union is better than CTTE or that Systematic is better than I&W or that Invisible Touch is better than SEBTP.


CTTE sucks, so...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 14:14
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

So basically we've got four main genres in the top: avant-prog, metal, fusion and RPI. What happened with the other genres? Anyone wants to comment on that?

I know Haken is in Heavy and Zeuhl is sepparated from RIO/Avant, but let's not think of that for a while.
Well, not many of the highly appreciated bands from Symphonic, Crossover, Neo, Heavy and Ecclectic realesed anything last year. This year will be different with White Willow, Paatos, Wobbler, Steven Wilson, Phideaux (I think), Pallas and Pendragon, maybe even Marillion, and thats just off the top of my head.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 18:25
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

So basically we've got four main genres in the top: avant-prog, metal, fusion and RPI. What happened with the other genres? Anyone wants to comment on that?

I know Haken is in Heavy and Zeuhl is sepparated from RIO/Avant, but let's not think of that for a while.


Mind you Alex, RPI is pretty much a non-genre. I have never understood the reason why the italian bands need to be separeted from the other symphonic bands. Hell, most of the big Brazilian progressive rock bands (as well as bands from the rest of South /Latin America) were much more unique, distinct and downright inovative than most of the Italians, besides having a own unique sound, quality or characteristic that could unite them in one single vein/style, which is the only reason why the Italian bands are separated. 

The quality of their output goes undisputed: most of them are terrific bands, just not distinct enough to have a sub-genre of their own, so consider RPI as an artificial division of symphonic.

Concerning the other genres, well, avant, metal, jazz and symphonic are the bigest genres. Art and space/psychedelic rock are missing, what is a shame, but you can't win 'em all, you know.

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:




Brian also put it #2 on his list for MMA, though.  And Kevin agrees with me that it's better than The Mantle (it just took him a  while)
 
I hope you know that such a comparison is like saying Union is better than CTTE or that Systematic is better than I&W or that Invisible Touch is better than SEBTP.


CTTE sucks, so...


That still proves my point. Cool


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 19:37
This discussion has been done to death Dead, I'll just say that you should try certain RPI bands to see that it's not just Italian symphonic bands, but there's a particular style that's much more than just symphonic. I'd recommend especially Franco Battiato, Area, Alan Sorrenti, Ricardo Zappa, Demetrios Stratos, Goblin, Latte E Miele, Stefano Testa or Maxophone.. There's also jazz, pop, psychedelic, folk and even electronic, chamber music and avantgarde in the style. RPI is not a place to hold the Italian bands, as half of the Italian bands are in other categories. And a lot of the bands would be rejected for Symphonic.

I officially declare you a RPI negationist LOL But really now, if you only know the mainly symphonic ones, than you've only skimmed the genre and there are many goodies to unearth.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 19:48
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

This discussion has been done to death Dead, I'll just say that you should try certain RPI bands to see that it's not just Italian symphonic bands, but there's a particular style that's much more than just symphonic. I'd recommend especially Franco Battiato, Area, Alan Sorrenti, Ricardo Zappa, Demetrios Stratos, Goblin, Latte E Miele, Stefano Testa or Maxophone.. There's also jazz, pop, psychedelic, folk and even electronic, chamber music and avantgarde in the style. RPI is not a place to hold the Italian bands, as half of the Italian bands are in other categories. And a lot of the bands would be rejected for Symphonic.

I officially declare you a RPI negationist LOL But really now, if you only know the mainly symphonic ones, than you've only skimmed the genre and there are many goodies to unearth.


Yes, I know that this discussion has been done to death and all that and in fact I know most bands you mentioned, but that is one of those things I simply don't agree with. Maybe I should have kept this kind of opinion to myself, but anyway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 22:40
After seeing this list I know why prog is so "niche" and impopular with the "greater audience" . The top 10 has nothing (Haken maybe excepted), Agalloch's worst album is in the top 10...the rest is Rio/Avant which will never get a huge following, and jazz...my top 10 would be 100% different...where did the symphonic go...there are some great symphonic albums in 2010...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2011 at 22:47
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Thanks for all the work and effort Alex ! Clap
An interesting top 10 for sure.I need to re-visit Clivages.  By the way Steve at Cuneiform Records was going to E-Mail Daniel from Univers Zero to give him the news.Kind of cool.
 
That is pretty cool indeed!
 
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