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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2011 at 12:50
Damn this is hilarious and pretty damn awesome. Auto-tune is truly an untapped resource when it comes to prog. I mean in popular music in my opinion it's used in all the wrong ways, but prog is all about renovating, at least the way I see it. I need to try it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2011 at 23:48
Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Damn this is hilarious and pretty damn awesome. Auto-tune is truly an untapped resource when it comes to prog. I mean in popular music in my opinion it's used in all the wrong ways, but prog is all about renovating, at least the way I see it. I need to try it...

Noy is probably in Tel Aviv, see if you can find him doing a show!  I'd love to see him process some prog classic like "Close to the Edge"!   I'll ask him to do that!  

Yeah, autotune is trashed by a lot of folks, but so was wah-wah pedal when it came out (overused & poorly applied).  

Guys like Fripp, Hackett, Andy Powell, Howe and others did amazing things with the wah-wah!   I use mine with bass, it is a very powerful sound!   Like chili pepper, best used sparingly!!  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2011 at 00:31
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Damn this is hilarious and pretty damn awesome. Auto-tune is truly an untapped resource when it comes to prog. I mean in popular music in my opinion it's used in all the wrong ways, but prog is all about renovating, at least the way I see it. I need to try it...

Noy is probably in Tel Aviv, see if you can find him doing a show!  I'd love to see him process some prog classic like "Close to the Edge"!   I'll ask him to do that!  

Yeah, autotune is trashed by a lot of folks, but so was wah-wah pedal when it came out (overused & poorly applied).  

Guys like Fripp, Hackett, Andy Powell, Howe and others did amazing things with the wah-wah!   I use mine with bass, it is a very powerful sound!   Like chili pepper, best used sparingly!!  

Enjoy!  

I totally didn't even notice your avatar, I didn't notice we're allied bassists (even if the pic was right there and the bass was dead center of the pic, the gears in my mind just started turning!). I've a friend, that is a massive sort of beatbox/ electronica talent. When I still lived in the States, I would get crazy on all of his effects. He had so many that I don't even remember all of which I used. But we'd record this freaky sort of hip-hop/ noise rock/ classical thing. I'd use this loop pedals, bass pedal, wah-wah, like this weird electronic pad (no not the ipad..........) thing that moving your finger around would do all these effects. I probably had most fun playing with him than with anybody else come to think about it, we were both very open-minded and interested in each others musical genres and wanted to just go crazy. If I listen to it now I might hide myself in a cave, but hell these effects were the most fun I probably ever had recording, much more than with any normal band, and even any prog band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2011 at 00:40
Originally posted by Sargasso Sargasso wrote:

I don't think you could get 50 musicians in this city to say that Nirvana isn't the best there ever was. If Seattle has a prog scene, it is, quite literally, underground.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2011 at 00:42
Originally posted by Mushroom Sword Mushroom Sword wrote:

Originally posted by Sargasso Sargasso wrote:

I don't think you could get 50 musicians in this city to say that Nirvana isn't the best there ever was. If Seattle has a prog scene, it is, quite literally, underground.


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That must have been painful. You better find somewhere to hide... they're coming for you.
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I totally didn't even notice your avatar, I didn't notice we're allied bassists (even if the pic was right there and the bass was dead center of the pic, the gears in my mind just started turning!). I've a friend, that is a massive sort of beatbox/ electronica talent. When I still lived in the States, I would get crazy on all of his effects. He had so many that I don't even remember all of which I used. But we'd record this freaky sort of hip-hop/ noise rock/ classical thing. I'd use this loop pedals, bass pedal, wah-wah, like this weird electronic pad (no not the ipad..........) thing that moving your finger around would do all these effects. I probably had most fun playing with him than with anybody else come to think about it, we were both very open-minded and interested in each others musical genres and wanted to just go crazy. If I listen to it now I might hide myself in a cave, but hell these effects were the most fun I probably ever had recording, much more than with any normal band, and even any prog band.

Wow!  I've done exactly that same stuff, going back many years!  Couldn't afford a Mellotron, so we took a cheesy kid's organ, miked it & ran the signal through phase-shifter etc.!  Sounded HUGE!  

Bass player, eh?  Look at my fretless....hand-made by Hugh Manson in England, luthier to Steve Howe, John Paul Jones & others!   Jones plays the evil twin (his is fretted, called "Eric the Red," you see him play it with Them Crooked Vultures).

Man, I wish we weren't separated by so much water!!  We'd have a jam session to end all jams!  I also play guitar, and often do lead-guitar parts on bass guitar!   Take care & seek out Noy, here he is in Tel Aviv!  You guys have some righteous babes over there!!


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I totally didn't even notice your avatar, I didn't notice we're allied bassists (even if the pic was right there and the bass was dead center of the pic, the gears in my mind just started turning!). I've a friend, that is a massive sort of beatbox/ electronica talent. When I still lived in the States, I would get crazy on all of his effects. He had so many that I don't even remember all of which I used. But we'd record this freaky sort of hip-hop/ noise rock/ classical thing. I'd use this loop pedals, bass pedal, wah-wah, like this weird electronic pad (no not the ipad..........) thing that moving your finger around would do all these effects. I probably had most fun playing with him than with anybody else come to think about it, we were both very open-minded and interested in each others musical genres and wanted to just go crazy. If I listen to it now I might hide myself in a cave, but hell these effects were the most fun I probably ever had recording, much more than with any normal band, and even any prog band.

Wow!  I've done exactly that same stuff, going back many years!  Couldn't afford a Mellotron, so we took a cheesy kid's organ, miked it & ran the signal through phase-shifter etc.!  Sounded HUGE!  

Bass player, eh?  Look at my fretless....hand-made by Hugh Manson in England, luthier to Steve Howe, John Paul Jones & others!   Jones plays the evil twin (his is fretted, called "Eric the Red," you see him play it with Them Crooked Vultures).

Man, I wish we weren't separated by so much water!!  We'd have a jam session to end all jams!  I also play guitar, and often do lead-guitar parts on bass guitar!   Take care & seek out Noy, here he is in Tel Aviv!  You guys have some righteous babes over there!!



Damn, that a luthier of quite the highest esteem! That's one damn pretty fretless! I've been saving up for a while now for one, been wanting a change in sound... should be getting one this summer. Noy is damn cool, I should totally check him out more. And we'd definitely have an awesome jam session, but I really hate those long flights, and god damn the jetlag, it's just hell. I did a lot of stuff with kid's pianos too, they sound all so very beautiful, and innocent. I prefer them over a mellotron any day (though mellotron are pretty rad). Always wanted to be in a band with two bassists, Stanley Clarke has that. People never seem to be into that idea, 'tis a shame...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 23:09
Originally posted by esky esky wrote:

I'm in Los Angeles and would someone please tell me where the local prog scene is.

WWW.calprog.com

Check out the past events and festivals.
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Here is a band in Orange County; Kiev


Mars Hollow has been know to sponsor a show or two:





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2011 at 12:51
^ You do realizer it is a PROG festival you are attending?   While some people probably do enjoy classical music that attend Nearfest  too they are there to experience and yes talk about Prog.  It sounds like you wanted to discuss newspapers at a Comicon.



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[QUOTE=Garion81]^ You do realizer it is a PROG festival you are attending?   While some people probably do enjoy classical music that attend Nearfest  too they are there to experience and yes talk about Prog.  It sounds like you wanted to discuss newspapers at a Comicon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2011 at 11:23
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

^ You do realizer it is a PROG festival you are attending?   While some people probably do enjoy classical music that attend Nearfest  too they are there to experience and yes talk about Prog.  It sounds like you wanted to discuss newspapers at a Comicon.

I can't relate to it because it is too compartmentalized. There are many styles of music in the world. I really don't see why people cannot discuss them at a prog fest. This prog fest thing is one path and only one path. What is the harm in having a discussion on various styles of music? Why just because you are at a prog fest? It comes across like religion in that way where youn have the Baptist holding contempt for the Catholics. I'll tell you what it feels like: It's like attending a jazz concert and it is not cool to discuss B.B. King. Which would never happen but at prog shows when you are just shooting the bull while shopping at the vendors tables, God forbid if you mention in passing that you appreciate Peter Green or Rory Gallagher. Now you become this kind of outlander and you are gawked at which I find moronic because I'm sure that Greg Lake and many other proggers that are held in the highest regard would have positive things to say about the British Blues Boom. Yet the majority of prog fans at the show do not. People like Jon Anderson or even Keith Emerson grew up on many styles of music that prog fans would find repulsive.

Thanks, you are making me feel better for having missed Nearfest all these years!!  

Quite a story you tell, in Chicago, we have some rather remarkable music festivals (the best music, by far, is the Gospel Festival), and we draw very large audiences from far & wide.   

I guess you'd find the same reception at a heavy metal festival if you wanted to rave about Yes, or at a Star Trek convention if you wanted to jam on Stargate, etc.   It might be more fun to mix bands up, like in the old days!!   

Back in the 1970's, there was a lot of mixing of styles.....concerts I've seen:  Flash opened for Wishbone Ash, the Eagles opened for Yes on the CTTE tour, Kansas opened for Mott the Hoople, even Peter Frampton opened for KC during the LTIA show!!   It all worked at some level, and I enjoyed all of 'em.  

As we say, "Get a life."  Modern prog music has been compared by some critics as sounding like music you'd hear at a Renaissance Festival, which I think is a hoot!  


"Everyone who wants to be progressive, in inverted comas, want to use mellotrons, Marshall amps and Rickenbacker basses, you know, it's all back to 1973, which is hardly progressive. So it's very much regressive. But it seems that progressive has become a generic term for a style of music which involves time changes, classical moods..."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2011 at 12:32
Seattle/Tacoma.....prog...nah. Unless the band is wearing courdoroy pants and fleece sweatshirt and drove up in a Subaru Outback with Nirvana stickers all over it....they don't get hired. LOL
 
Although there has been a bit of effort lately....Stairway Press is sponsoring the Neal Morse Testimony 2 concert in May......I think the guy is a millionaire from either Microsoft or Boeing, electrical engineer I believe.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2011 at 21:11
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

[QUOTE=TODDLER][QUOTE=Garion81]^ You do realizer it is a PROG festival you are attending?   While some people probably do enjoy classical music that attend Nearfest  too they are there to experience and yes talk about Prog.  It sounds like you wanted to discuss newspapers at a Comicon.

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My city is full of screamo/deathcore bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2011 at 23:10
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

My city is full of screamo/deathcore bands.

Pity!  Have you been to a show by the Genesis trib "Musical Box" yet?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2011 at 07:32
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

^ You do realizer it is a PROG festival you are attending?   While some people probably do enjoy classical music that attend Nearfest  too they are there to experience and yes talk about Prog.  It sounds like you wanted to discuss newspapers at a Comicon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2011 at 12:52
Toddler were you trying to post something to me?   I have been to Nearfest once and Calprog many times I find most people are willing to talk about anything music especially the musicians that play there.  Sorry that your experience was other than that but considering the incredible line ups at Nearfest and your proximity to it I would give it another chance.  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2011 at 09:58
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Toddler were you trying to post something to me?   I have been to Nearfest once and Calprog many times I find most people are willing to talk about anything music especially the musicians that play there.  Sorry that your experience was other than that but considering the incredible line ups at Nearfest and your proximity to it I would give it another chance.  
Well of course I would give it another chance. And of course it is not the same everywhere. Society is measured or classified into groups. I have met many proggers who found it laughable that my interest was in certain styles of pop music and rock music in general. It felt like a majority of people were expressing that view. With rock and pop fans/musicians there seems to be a majority that laugh at prog. I probably feel as if there is a majority of people expressing negativity in all groups that follow whatever kind of music . I get that feeling and make that judgement from touring for 30 years. I am still willing to admit I might be wrong as the social environment could have developed this way on the east coast and not the west. I am always observing crowds, audience responses, opinions of fans, etc and trying to come up with a percentage of minority and majority. It's because I toured a lot and constantly connected with the reaction of audiences and found many aspects baffling. Sorry about the rant.

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