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He has not much technical abbility or anything, but I don't care about that at all, I love his drumming, he's totally underrated IMO. Listen to the drumming in the Abbey Road albums, it sounds great too me, it doesn't matter how simple it might be, it fits perfectly in the songs.
I would have liked he would continue developing his drumming in the 70's joining some other band as a drummer instead of going for a solo career.

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Wish I could've had Ringo in my band....
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For those interested in an insight into Ringo's unique drumming style, you are heartily recommended to read the brilliant Revolution in the Head by the late, but definitely great, Ian MacDonald (not the Crimson man!). The best book on the Beatles music and the Sixties ever published.
 
A perusal of The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions (Holy Grail for 'Beatleoligists')  by Mark Lewishon will provide further enlightenment of just how indispensible the 'Be-Ringed One' was to the Fabs.
 
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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

I find it interesting that most arguments that support Ringo do little to distinguish his abilities from those of a metronome.  
Exactly. He's not much different than a metronome. And occasionally a metronome's actually better!! Did you know that he actually couldn't get the drums to Obladi Oblada?? Paul actually did them, and tey're not even hard!!!LOLLOL

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Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

I find it interesting that most arguments that support Ringo do little to distinguish his abilities from those of a metronome.  
Exactly. He's not much different than a metronome. And occasionally a metronome's actually better!! Did you know that he actually couldn't get the drums to Obladi Oblada?? Paul actually did them, and tey're not even hard!!!LOLLOL

Metronomes wish they could play like Ringo.  Also I'm pretty sure Ringo still drummed on that tune.  
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I'm pretty sure Ringo played in Ob la di ob la da too. As far as I know the track where he didn't play were Back in the USSR and Dear Prudence, and probably Why don't we do it in the road.

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Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

I find it interesting that most arguments that support Ringo do little to distinguish his abilities from those of a metronome.  
Exactly. He's not much different than a metronome. And occasionally a metronome's actually better!! Did you know that he actually couldn't get the drums to Obladi Oblada?? Paul actually did them, and tey're not even hard!!!LOLLOL

Metronomes wish they could play like Ringo.  Also I'm pretty sure Ringo still drummed on that tune.  
 
Sorry, I meant to say Back in the USSR. Ringo couldn't get the drums to that, so Paul did it.
Read the credits section at the bottom of this.
 
 

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I don't think Ringo actually couldn't play what Paul wanted like everybody use to say. Maybe he didn't get what Paul wanted him to play or he just didn't care. I can easily picture Macca telling him "Play it like this: tutu taam tu pum tu ta" haha I know I talk like that to the drummer in my band. But seriously, what's for sure is that the sessions for the white album were very tense. Paul always had ideas in his mind for what he wanted on his songs, and at that point some times the others just didn't care. You can even see that in the Let it be movie.

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Originally posted by SgtPepper67 SgtPepper67 wrote:

I don't think Ringo actually couldn't play what Paul wanted like everybody use to say. Maybe he didn't get what Paul wanted him to play or he just didn't care. I can easily picture Macca telling him "Play it like this: tutu taam tu pum tu ta" haha I know I talk like that to the drummer in my band. But seriously, what's for sure is that the sessions for the white album were very tense. Paul always had ideas in his mind for what he wanted on his songs, and at that point some times the others just didn't care. You can even see that in the Let it be movie.
 
There might be some truth to that, but in the book Beatlesongs (if you've ever read that), says that stuff was tense, but Ringo wasn't able to play what Paul wanted. I mean, if you listen to Band on The Run album by Paul, the drumming is honestly better than anything Ringo ever played. It's almost safe for me to say that Macca's a better drummer than Ringo.

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I love the drumming on Band on the run, but I don't think is as good as the drumming on Abbey Road. Besides, IMO that's the only album with Macca on drums where drumming is interesting. I don't like the drums on McCartney, McCartney II or Chaos & Creation that much really, although I think they're good albums.

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Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Yeah, he was good for the 60's and for The Beatles. He's no virtuoso on the instrument, but he can pull off some good rythm and have some quite good rocking stuff as in The End on Abbey Road which I LOVE his drumming there.
 
I agree. His drum solo is really cool on The End, and keeps great rythm, but isn't Mike Portnoy or Carl Palmer either.

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Originally posted by AlanD AlanD wrote:

Wish I could've had Ringo in my band....
 
Would be very cool, but would you really want him as your drummer instead of technically capable drummers like Mike Portnoy, Nick D'Virgilio, Carl Palmer, or Alan White???

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Most of what has been written lately about Ringo and the white album is largely based on fiction. The fact is that Ring had quit the Beatles at the time they were recording some of the songs for that album. The tensions within the Beatles at this time were huge. Ringo would wait for hours at the studio for the others to show up and one evening he couldn't stand it any more and left. Paul played the drums in his place. This is documented in Lewisohn's "The Beatles recording sessions".
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Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by SgtPepper67 SgtPepper67 wrote:

I don't think Ringo actually couldn't play what Paul wanted like everybody use to say. Maybe he didn't get what Paul wanted him to play or he just didn't care. I can easily picture Macca telling him "Play it like this: tutu taam tu pum tu ta" haha I know I talk like that to the drummer in my band. But seriously, what's for sure is that the sessions for the white album were very tense. Paul always had ideas in his mind for what he wanted on his songs, and at that point some times the others just didn't care. You can even see that in the Let it be movie.
 
There might be some truth to that, but in the book Beatlesongs (if you've ever read that), says that stuff was tense, but Ringo wasn't able to play what Paul wanted. I mean, if you listen to Band on The Run album by Paul, the drumming is honestly better than anything Ringo ever played. It's almost safe for me to say that Macca's a better drummer than Ringo.
I believe Paul played the drums on Back in The USSR and Dear Prudence because Ringo had walked out of the band at this point.  I can't believe that Ringo wouldn't have been able to play either of those songs. I also don't believe that Macca is a better drummer, just listen to the clunky drumming in Dear Prudence.
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Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by AlanD AlanD wrote:

Wish I could've had Ringo in my band....
 
Would be very cool, but would you really want him as your drummer instead of technically capable drummers like Mike Portnoy, Nick D'Virgilio, Carl Palmer, or Alan White???
Listen to Portnoy's drumming on the Yellow Matter Custard CD, he certainly doesn't add anything much in the drumming department, skilful drummer though he is.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by AlanD AlanD wrote:

Wish I could've had Ringo in my band....
 
Would be very cool, but would you really want him as your drummer instead of technically capable drummers like Mike Portnoy, Nick D'Virgilio, Carl Palmer, or Alan White???
Listen to Portnoy's drumming on the Yellow Matter Custard CD, he certainly doesn't add anything much in the drumming department, skilful drummer though he is.


Great example. I was really surprised when I saw that, I thought Portnoy would be playing fills all the time trying to stand out and ruining the whole thing, and it was nothing like that. He played the original arrangments most of the time.

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Originally posted by SgtPepper67 SgtPepper67 wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by AlanD AlanD wrote:

Wish I could've had Ringo in my band....
 
Would be very cool, but would you really want him as your drummer instead of technically capable drummers like Mike Portnoy, Nick D'Virgilio, Carl Palmer, or Alan White???
Listen to Portnoy's drumming on the Yellow Matter Custard CD, he certainly doesn't add anything much in the drumming department, skilful drummer though he is.


Great example. I was really surprised when I saw that, I thought Portnoy would be playing fills all the time trying to stand out and ruining the whole thing, and it was nothing like that. He played the original arrangments most of the time.
 
Well, that's the thing he can play great, but with YMC, he wanted to keep it like the original versions without jazzing it up (which is fully capable of).

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I'm listening to some Beatles right now...say ya'll he was the drummer for this particular band.  Outclassed technically by countless others who came later, but the man knew what a beat was all about, way 'bout '63.  If this is going to turn into a Ringo bashing thread, please let's name some great drummer's who were amongst the driving force for those bands of the era.  Dave Clark?  Charlie Watts? 
 
Quick, who was the drummer for Herman's Hermits?   Or for that matter the Kinks or Yardbirds?
 
I ain't sayin' the guy was the original incarnation of John Bonham, but please.
 
And screw what McCartney played or did not play, drum-wise, on the White Album.  
 
Warning sexist comment:  Ringo ended up with the best 'bird'.
 
 


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I've never understood the big outcry. He's great! Just because he never showed off didn;t mean he couldn;t be complex when he wanted to be. There are several moments in Beatles Muci where he showed off some really good drumming chops. He was more reserved, but that was his style,. Don't knock the poor man for it.
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

I'm listening to some Beatles right now...say ya'll he was the drummer for this particular band.  Outclassed technically by countless others who came later, but the man knew what a beat was all about, way 'bout '63.  If this is going to turn into a Ringo bashing thread, please let's name some great drummer's who were amongst the driving force for those bands of the era.  Dave Clark?  Charlie Watts? 
 
Quick, who was the drummer for Herman's Hermits?   Or for that matter the Kinks or Yardbirds?
 
I ain't sayin' the guy was the original incarnation of John Bonham, but please.
 
And screw what McCartney played or did not play, drum-wise, on the White Album.  
 
Warning sexist comment:  Ringo ended up with the best 'bird'.
 
 
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