Collaborators Top Albums of 2007 - Results

You know everyone here is upset about their favorite bands not being on the list or bands being higher than they'd like. Well hopefully you all are aware/will now become aware of a larger scale list being compiled about favorite albums (except this is every year). That's right, everyone is welcome to submit a list of their favorite albums in the Ultimate PA Albums List. The due date is literally right around the corner, so get them in soon (I won't be a stickler if it's a few days late.)
So yes, please vote. Pretty please.
Here is a link: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=44257&PN=1
Sorry to have intruded

stonebeard wrote: micky wrote: hmmmm  the question arises to my mind... since this is PA's and no constitution....  me thinks we need another vote....  we obviously didn't get it right the first time..  I can imagine somewhere someone will be laughing looking that on this site... of all sites.. 2 of the top 7 albums are non prog.. or borderline prog. This WAS a good year for prog... for example.. stuff like the Battles was simply heads and shoulders above  either album from Rush and PT in prog terms... and some point as colloborators... don't you think you can set aside blatent votes on what you like and what you don't for recognizing when prog albums and artists do something different.. unique.. or really make a mark upon  the prog scene.  Thinking out loud.... If your talking about voting for something as the best of the year just because it's different, then I think that's an awful idea, unless it's done in tandem with voting for one's favorites. That sort of thing would make us hipsters like Pitchforkmedia, who go with trends simply because it's the new thing. Maybe you don't like FOABP, but obviously a lot of people do.

I thought I explained it well.. in private.. in the collab area..  I think there can be a balance of liking something and recognizing new trends and progression within prog.

and my true motives for this were again.. explained the collab area..

hahah.. fair enough..  and I'll be transparent...

my main point or reason to want a re-vote is because this forum has been stale, uninspiring and discussions few and far between recently.  The reason we had a forum stimulator thought up.   I could care less if people think FoaBP is THE prog album of 2007 or not.. but a lot of people don't think so.   There is a discussion there waiting to happen.. something to build interest on. So rather than have this thread sink and die in a few days, we can do something with it.. and yes.. maybe put out a better 2007 list IMO and have fun with it at the same time.  

Well, you know I'm not very satisfied with the placement of albums I voted for on this list. I voted for FOABP as Number 1, but I'd still give it only about 3.5 stars. Basically, there were no really good mainstream prog albums this year, IMO. Everything on my list is about 3.5 stars. And I understand your frustration, but this poll is very genuine, as long as all who voted were honest. The numbers don't lie. 

Oceansizzle wrote: glad Oceansize was at least 16, but i think it should have been in top 5 or 10 along with Radiohead.  I just see alot of prog big names with mediocre albums...

You may be new, but you have greater insight than most here

good idea... quoting your post over in the collab area.. see if anyone wants to play....

*hijacking over... you all can go back to shooting holes in the list and wondering just what the hell people were thinking putting a non prog album by Rush on the list hahhaha*

I would've liked to do this comparison in a nice graph, but I'm tired, and show the ranking of each band's album in another way would look less sloppy (for instance, just list an album once then put the rank from both lists beside it, but since there are many albums ranked the same, I did it this way).                                                                                                 

1. COLLABS: PT - Fear of a Blank Planet            
1. MEMBERS: PT - Fear of a Blank Planet 

2. COLLABS: Robert Wyatt - Comicopera, Grayceon - Grayceon
2. MEMBERS: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - In Glorious Times

3. COLLABS: Anekdoten - a Time of Day
3. MEMBERS: Radiohead - In Rainbows

4. COLLABS: Neal Morse - Sola Scriptura
4. MEMBERS: Between the Buried and Me - Colors

5. COLLABS: Battles - Mirrored
5. MEMBERS: Neal Morse - Sola Scriptura

6. COLLABS: Rush - Snakes & Arrows
6. MEMBERS: Rush - Snakes and Arrows, The Flower Kings - The Sum of No Evil, Blackfield - Blackfield II, Rational Diet - Rational Diet
                                  
7. COLLABS: Pax Cecilia - Blessed are the Bonds
7. MEMBERS: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon, Robert Wyatt - Comicopera, Beardfish - Sleeping in Traffic: Part One

8. COLLABS: Ulver - Shadows of the Sun, Riverside - Rapid Eye Movement, Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
8. MEMBERS: The Dear Hunter - Act II: The Meaning Of..., Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos

9. COLLABS: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - In Glorious Times, Fish - Thirteenth Star, Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos
9. MEMBERS: Alamaailman Vasarat - Maahan, Anekdoten - A Time of Day, The Dillinger Escape Plan - Ire Works, The Pax Cecilia - Blessed are the Bonds

10. COLLABS: Van der Graaf Generator - Real Time
10. MEMBERS: Gazpacho - Night, Riverside - Rapid Eye Movement, John Zorn - Six Litanies for Heliogabalus, Black Bonzo - Sound of the Apocalypse

11. COLLABS: Oceansize - Frames, The Dear Hunter - Act II: The Meaning of...
11. MEMBERS: Coheed and Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume Two: No World for Tomorrow, Explosions in the Sky - All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone, Lazuli - En Avant Doute..., Devin Townsend - Ziltoid the Omniscient

12. COLLABS: New Trolls - Concerto Grosso the Seven Seasons, The Morningside - The Wind...
12. MEMBERS: Far Corner - Endangered, Tony Levin - Stick Man, Satellite - Into The Night, Thork - Nula Jedan, Marillion - Somewhere Else

13. COLLABS: Sieges Even - Paramount, Shining - Grindstone, Senogul - Senogul, Reasoning - Awakening, Flower Kings - The Sum Of No Evil, Between the Buried and Me - Colors, Alamaailman Vasarat - Maahan
13. MEMBERS: AmAndA - Le Maison de Flore, Baroness - Red Album, Glass Hammer - Culture of Ascent, New Trolls - Concerto Grosso: The Seven Seasons, Moonsorrow - Viides luku - H�vitetty, Battles - Mirrored, Oceansize - Frames

14: COLLABS: Marillion - Somewhere Else, Salle Gaveau - Alloy, Rational Diet - Rational Diet, Miasma and the Carousel of Headless Horses - "Manfauna,"  14:
14. MEMBERS: Shining - Grindstone, Reasoning, the - Awakening, The Watch - Primitive, Quidam - Alone Together, Pineapple Thief - What We Have Sown, Ulver - Shadows of the Sun

15: COLLABS: Satellite - Into the Night, Do Make Say Think - You, You're A History In Rust,Conqueror - 74 Giorni, Blotted Science - Machinations of Dementia
15: MEMBERS: Nemo - Si Partie II - L'Homme Ideal, Novembre - The Blue, Outer Limits - Stromatolite, Planet X - Quantum, Redemption - The Origins of Ruin, Therion - Gothic Kabbalah, Grayceon - s/t

Anyway, not that different on the whole... Didn't list all of the lower-ranked collab albums.

Edited by Logan - January 26 2008 at 01:07

My point was that the value of a annual best-of list lies in it being an historical curio, reflecting opinions at the time.  Judging albums against others released in the same year is necessarily a exercise rooted in the context of its time.  If you want to provoke debate, why not dig out some of the previous years' lists and invite people to contribute their opinions with the benefit of hindsight; that's where the potential for an interesting discussion lies.  Changing the lists after they've been voted for to create one of what you think people should have liked best just seems rather futile and inward-looking; you might as well start asking for votes for the top albums of every year since 1967.

obviously most agree with you Raff... my suggestion in the collab area.. though I'm not surprised. Has gone nowhere.  I guess most have no desire to debate and discuss such things.. oh well hahhaha.

D'oh! I didn't vote!

Zorn, where oh where is Zorn?!