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PaperDuck
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:27 |
If you count Radiohead as prog, definitely them. Ouch.
Nor Jefferson Airplane - I just couldn't do it.
Plus any band with a female main vocalist. I don't know what it is - it certainly isn't the range, I'm a huge Yes fan - but something about them makes me cringe, in every genre except, oddly enough, musicals.
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glass house
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:45 |
. I say fear, because its not like you dont have any interest in getting into it, you do, you want to...but somehow you cant. This music, this band you want to get into and cant must have something for you to want to understand and appretiate, something that atracts you
A band called Yes, they are icons of the genre I like, so I should be able to get into them. Tried many times, the music just doesn't do it for me. Something the whole music sounds to me, too happy. I have giving up on them.
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Prog-jester
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:47 |
From Classics - YES.I can listen to them,I can GET their music,but there's no CLICK at all.I guess I just don't like them.
GG and VDGG.I like some songs from them,but I would never regard them as my fave bands.
From Genres - RIO/Avant,Krautrock,Indo/Raga,Jazz/Fusion.Just NOT MY KIND OF MUSIC. I like some albums from these genres(besides,I have no problems with Post-Rock AT ALL,for example),but generally I prefer Symphonic,Modern(TOOL,OPETH,TMV,PORCUPINE TREE etc) and Neo prog.
Edited by Prog-jester - September 17 2006 at 06:48
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:49 |
So you said No to YES, Tony ..
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glass house
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:54 |
Yes I did, didn't I.
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MajesterX
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 09:26 |
Trickster F. wrote:
I don't have problems with anything. I'm just incompatible with various kinds of music, whereas some are especially pleasant to me and that's that.
And by "kinds of music" I do mean means of expression and direction rather than a genre, otherwise things would be too easy. There is something to find fascinating and ignore in each genre. |
nag nag nag nag nag. Just answer the question! I personally can never get into the Italian prog. It's just not for me I guess.
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R_DeNIRO
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 09:26 |
Yes
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We were always be much human than we whish to be.
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Baza
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:34 |
Frank Zappa and other RIO/avant-rock, maybe someday I will get into it...
Mahavishnu and other jazz/rock fusion - I don't like jazz at all.
Canterbury, except couple of albums (In my signature).
Prog metal - not difficult to get into, I just can't stand the heavy distortion.
Neo prog - not proggy enough, I don't enjoy it (except the Script).
Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, etc. - well, it is also basically neo-prog.
I had a difficult time getting used to VDGG, but now I like them.
For some reason I liked Magma (MDK) at the first spin.
Edited by Baza - September 17 2006 at 10:35
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eugene
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:38 |
Can, Faust, Tipographica, Czukay, John Zorn (but only when he is teaming up with other great musicians such as Fred Frith, for instance, to get on nerves of the audience by making noisy, hardly bearable and almost unlistenable to sounds).
Edited by eugene - September 17 2006 at 10:49
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Raff
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:44 |
I think most of the people here will guess which band I'll probably never get into... It starts with Dream and ends with Theater. I've tried them, have six albums by them (the latest I bought was SFAM, just last week), but I have to admit my mind just blacks out halfway through any album but Images and Words.
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micky
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:53 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
I think most of the people here will guess which
band I'll probably never get into... It starts with Dream and ends with
Theater. I've tried them, have six albums by them (the latest I bought
was SFAM, just last week), but I have to admit my mind just blacks out
halfway through any album but Images and Words.
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hahahhaha oh how true .....
you are better than me ...1 album and multiple samples did nothing for
me.... and probably won't get another.... I did try though..
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Nanook
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 11:57 |
To take this further, I've been following progressive rock since the beginning. Until I found this site, I had never even heard of VDGG, as a band that is.
Once I heard about, and listened to some of their stuff, I was not impressed. Odd, though, that I never heard of them for over 30 years.
I'm thankful I stumbled across Prog Archives, I've heard many bands that I hadn't before.
Edited by Nanook - September 17 2006 at 11:58
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Bring me my broadsword, and clear understanding.
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Logan
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 12:19 |
When I first saw this topic I was going to write that while there are some bands (and Prog subgenres on the whole) that I don't care for, I don't "fear" not getting into any of them, but I dug a little deeper in my all-too psychotic psyche, and realised that in fact I wish I could enjoy all of the music listed at this site. I don't mean that I wish that all the music conformed to my current aural tastes (which tastes pretty waxy by the way), but that I could learn to appreciate all of the music that my fellow progheads enjoy. The "so-called Prog" is eclectic, it fuses styles and bends/ distorts them, covers huge musical territory, and so it tends to attract those with eclectic tastes -- it's a non-genre in a sense (ungeneric but a subgenre of rock music utilising different styles/ attitudes).
I love Prog, I tend tolove that eclectic mix of influences you find in the music (like GG's mixing of troubadour style to hard rock to jazz), and I wished to be a Prog enthusiast who could appreciate it all. However, I tend to have a problem when I hear a lot of pop, obvious AOR sounding music, New Wave, Emo, some bluesy stuff, grungy stuff, punk, and death metal influences.
I really liked Opeth's music until the singing started... The growling, especially, doesn't not work for me, and damn I have tried because I recognise the instrumental talent. The Mars Volta: well I do like some of their earlier stuff, but I really tried to like Amputechture and largely failed. The Flower Kings and Spock's beard just doesn't work for me (especially the singing). UK, tried, quite like some of their stuff, but doesn't do it for me either. Marillion -- first album is okay, and I don't mind their music, but I can't get excited about it (don't much care for either singer and the music seems to lack the complexity of much Prog). The same goes for most Neo-Prog (although I have found exceptions -- borderline Neo-Prog). Prog Metal: I like, really like, some of the music, but on the whole it leaves me cold. Porcupine Tree: some I like... It's the Emo influenced Prog that particularly turns me off (maybe because I'm emotionally reserved -- in public anyway -- and I find it a bit embarrassing -- I was trained to keep a stiff-upper lip, although in forums I feel comfortable showing more emotion though - as I wish to communicate my enthusiasms in an apparently heartfelt way -- also part of having an overblown online persona).
The more "complex" the music is considered to be (especially harmonically), the more I usually like it. One thing, I was raised on Western Art Music (read 'classical as a general style rather than a specific period), but then found a love of jazz (for the rythyms and percussion particularly), so I'm more likely to appreciate certain Prog-pieces over others -- ones with strong classical and jazz influences.
One reason i really want to like all of the music is for discussion-sake. I feel passionate about music, I truly see it as the highest form of art and although I may keep a stiff-upper lip in public, it moves me deeply. Tallis, ahhh, pure bliss. I feel inclined to discuss music I don't like as well as that I do like, but I understand what it's like when you love something and another dismisses it as crap -- deflating, and can take away the musical pleasure. My wife doesn't like the music I like and is critical of it. Played her Bacamarte and she said the singer sounded nasally/ whiny; then asked me to turn it down. It's so nice to share what you're enthusiastic about... I wish I liked it all, at least because I, also, tend to voice my criticisms of certain music and that can be deflating for others. Especially in RL, where I'm called on by friends to discuss music I don't care for on a regular basis... I usually just say "interesting."
Of course in the forums I could stay silent about the music I don't like, but I'm interested in exploring why we like or don't like something, and as it's a matter of taste (mostly acquired taste largely due to what we've been exposed to) I don't mind if another doesn't like the same music I do at this board (unlike in my personal life, my freinds and acqaintances, cause I want to share it with others). Still, I wish I could like it all so that I could share in all of the board members enthusiasm. So I try. The more I like, the happier I'll be.
Incidentally, I was called on to share my thoughts on a song by a Green Dayish clone, at another board by a person who was very enthusiastic about a certain song. Listened several times to try to say something enthusiastic about the music, but failed -- so I have written nothing as yet. I shouldn't feel too bad, as no one has responded to my Prog recommendations (actually, I did turn someone onto Camel there a year ago).
Edited by Logan - September 17 2006 at 12:22
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Evans
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 13:05 |
Logan wrote:
When I first saw this topic I was going to write that while there are some bands (and Prog subgenres on the whole) that I don't care for, I don't "fear" not getting into any of them, but I dug a little deeper in my all-too psychotic psyche, and realised that in fact I wish I could enjoy all of the music listed at this site. I don't mean that I wish that all the music conformed to my current aural tastes (which tastes pretty waxy by the way), but that I could learn to appreciate all of the music that my fellow progheads enjoy. The "so-called Prog" is eclectic, it fuses styles and bends/ distorts them, covers huge musical territory, and so it tends to attract those with eclectic tastes -- it's a non-genre in a sense (ungeneric but a subgenre of rock music utilising different styles/ attitudes).
I love Prog, I tend tolove that eclectic mix of influences you find in the music (like GG's mixing of troubadour style to hard rock to jazz), and I wished to be a Prog enthusiast who could appreciate it all. However, I tend to have a problem when I hear a lot of pop, obvious AOR sounding music, New Wave, Emo, some bluesy stuff, grungy stuff, punk, and death metal influences.
I really liked Opeth's music until the singing started... The growling, especially, doesn't not work for me, and damn I have tried because I recognise the instrumental talent. The Mars Volta: well I do like some of their earlier stuff, but I really tried to like Amputechture and largely failed. The Flower Kings and Spock's beard just doesn't work for me (especially the singing). UK, tried, quite like some of their stuff, but doesn't do it for me either. Marillion -- first album is okay, and I don't mind their music, but I can't get excited about it (don't much care for either singer and the music seems to lack the complexity of much Prog). The same goes for most Neo-Prog (although I have found exceptions -- borderline Neo-Prog). Prog Metal: I like, really like, some of the music, but on the whole it leaves me cold. Porcupine Tree: some I like... It's the Emo influenced Prog that particularly turns me off (maybe because I'm emotionally reserved -- in public anyway -- and I find it a bit embarrassing -- I was trained to keep a stiff-upper lip, although in forums I feel comfortable showing more emotion though - as I wish to communicate my enthusiasms in an apparently heartfelt way -- also part of having an overblown online persona).
The more "complex" the music is considered to be (especially harmonically), the more I usually like it. One thing, I was raised on Western Art Music (read 'classical as a general style rather than a specific period), but then found a love of jazz (for the rythyms and percussion particularly), so I'm more likely to appreciate certain Prog-pieces over others -- ones with strong classical and jazz influences.
One reason i really want to like all of the music is for discussion-sake. I feel passionate about music, I truly see it as the highest form of art and although I may keep a stiff-upper lip in public, it moves me deeply. Tallis, ahhh, pure bliss. I feel inclined to discuss music I don't like as well as that I do like, but I understand what it's like when you love something and another dismisses it as crap -- deflating, and can take away the musical pleasure. My wife doesn't like the music I like and is critical of it. Played her Bacamarte and she said the singer sounded nasally/ whiny; then asked me to turn it down. It's so nice to share what you're enthusiastic about... I wish I liked it all, at least because I, also, tend to voice my criticisms of certain music and that can be deflating for others. Especially in RL, where I'm called on by friends to discuss music I don't care for on a regular basis... I usually just say "interesting."
Of course in the forums I could stay silent about the music I don't like, but I'm interested in exploring why we like or don't like something, and as it's a matter of taste (mostly acquired taste largely due to what we've been exposed to) I don't mind if another doesn't like the same music I do at this board (unlike in my personal life, my freinds and acqaintances, cause I want to share it with others). Still, I wish I could like it all so that I could share in all of the board members enthusiasm. So I try. The more I like, the happier I'll be.
Incidentally, I was called on to share my thoughts on a song by a Green Dayish clone, at another board by a person who was very enthusiastic about a certain song. Listened several times to try to say something enthusiastic about the music, but failed -- so I have written nothing as yet. I shouldn't feel too bad, as no one has responded to my Prog recommendations (actually, I did turn someone onto Camel there a year ago).
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I ust wanted to say that that post would make my "desert island posts"-list. As for bands i fear not getting into... probably Mahavishnu Orchestra, as i have at times (especially on the song "one word") seen how... "fun" it can be to listen to such unharmonic and chaotic music, but still there are some parts that just burn my ears off..
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CrazyDiamond
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 13:55 |
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MadcapLaughs84
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 17:36 |
I think Opeth, mostly the hard songs, are too heavy for my spacial ears, I admire Mikael as a singer, just for the fact of his variable voice. But well sometimes gutural voices are so annoying.
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The Wizard
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 17:38 |
Spacemen 3
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rupert
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Posted: September 23 2006 at 13:50 |
Pink Floyd. I fear I'll never get into Pink Floyd. I'll even become a YES-fan before that. And I fear I won't.
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Drew
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Posted: September 23 2006 at 13:52 |
VDGG, Mars Volta, Gentle Giant, and ELP.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 10:31 |
I bought Godbluff by VDGG, and I have a hard time with their style, and with Hamill's vocals... Any album by VDGG you guys recommend?
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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