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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2004 at 12:56

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

I've very few respect for a musician who breaks his instruments

(except hendrix of course)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2004 at 14:12

Emerson never broke that Hammond.... what are you kidding.  That thing lasted quite a few tours before it was donated to the RocknRoll Hall of Fame in Cleveland...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2004 at 15:02
Have to agree 3f8's. It always struck me there was nothing random about where he put those knives, he knew exactly what he was doing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2004 at 15:17

One of my favs is Grobschnitt's 'Anywhere', especially that moment

(Anywhere behind a desert stone,
anywhere so far from home
you'll find a grown blind flower
she never is alone, far from home
she feels wind around her
she feels a warming sun
SHE FEELS SOME RAINDROPS WET HER LEAVES
SINCE THAT TIME SHE LOST HER GRIEFS
)

and the out-of-tune-whistling.

I can't explain why, but these two moments in this rather short track touch something deep inside me



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she feels wind around her
she feels a warming sun
she feels some raindrops wet her leaves
since that time she lost her griefs
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2004 at 20:53

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Have to agree 3f8's. It always struck me there was nothing random about where he put those knives, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Yep... the knives had the same place to go all the time.  actually he used them to change the pitch most time... make it warble.... he is genius... I saw him a couple of times go so into it.. that he and the organ tumbled over in the orchestra pit. At one show, the audience actually lifted the organ back on stage for him....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 22:05
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

I've very few respect for a musician who breaks his instruments

(except hendrix of course)

tHAN IT MUST BE REASSURING TO YOU, THAT MOST MUSICIANS BROKE SPECIALY PREPARED INSTRUMENTS ON STAGE, NOT USED, AND EASILY PUT TOGETHER AGAIN. (the who, Jimmy Hendrix etc.)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2004 at 02:22

Big smileMy fave prog moment?

That part from 3:03.591 to 4:01.72, with the Hammond and the mellotron, where the synth goes 'bip bip bip zee boing doing -- sa-weeeee-garoooohgh!," and the guitar starts to go "bwoop boop di di di diddley mee dee dee diddly diddly mee dee dee," and the singer goes into that bit about the cosmic togetherness of it all!

That part ROCKS, man!Thumbs Up

Wink What an interesting thread! LOL

Here comes the GOOD part -- shut up!

Glorp!

(Is anyone really reading all these lists, or  -- gawd forbid -- timing this stuff out on their CD player?)

Ok, the eternal cynic will go to bed now.... Sorry!Embarrassed



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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2004 at 12:06
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 

That part from 3:03.591 to 4:01.72, with the Hammond and the mellotron, where the synth goes 'bip bip bip zee boing doing -- sa-weeeee-garoooohgh!," and the guitar starts to go "bwoop boop di di di diddley mee dee dee diddly diddly mee dee dee," and the singer goes into that bit about the cosmic togetherness of it all!

 

  what band are you taking about? what what cd!? im interested in some weird like that
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2004 at 12:17
Originally posted by Eddy Eddy wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 

That part from 3:03.591 to 4:01.72, with the Hammond and the mellotron, where the synth goes 'bip bip bip zee boing doing -- sa-weeeee-garoooohgh!," and the guitar starts to go "bwoop boop di di di diddley mee dee dee diddly diddly mee dee dee," and the singer goes into that bit about the cosmic togetherness of it all!

 

  what band are you taking about? what what cd!? im interested in some weird like that

Um....Peter was joking there Eddy

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2004 at 14:37

Joking! He was joking?

Oh man.... I just spent the past 18 hours and 23 minutes pouring over every tune longer than 5 minutes and, using my led crystal Swiss timepiece, accurate to with .000000937ths of a second to listen to each piece from 3:03.591 to 4:01.72 trying to find those golden moments Peter spoke of.... I'm crushed, a joke? A joke you say.... oh the humanity.... the loss of sleep and gallons of coffee... a joke, all for a pithy Professors sick sense of humor.

Curse you Rideout, you shall rue the day I have my revenge.... Yes, yes... Revenge is mine. Sick twisted Canadian blister. My rath be smote upon your hideous visage. I fart in your general direction..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2004 at 21:27
No... let me punish him Danbo... I think I have another Love Beach picture around here somewhere.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2004 at 10:05

Great Prog Moments according to Lunar :

  • The first bars of Lady Fantasy - Camel
  • The first bars of Firth of Fifth - Genesis
  • The refrain of Sylvia - Focus

The greatest of them all is:

  • The Lives of Great Men - Hawkwind
  • The Starship Trooper (last 4 minutes) - Yes
  • The Pharao Of Alexandria - Rick Wakeman
  • Beach Theme (Thief OST) - Tangerine Dream
  • Master Of Illusion - Pendragon

Live Performances witnessed by Lunar :

  • The Journey - Rick Wakeman (live in Rio 2001)
  • The Pirate - ELP (Live in Rio 1995)
  • The Spirit Of The Light - Kitaro (Live in Rio 1996)
  • Amused To Death - Roger Waters (Live in Rio 2002)
  • Your Own Special Way - Genesis (Live in Rio 1977)
  • Harem Scarem - Focus (Live in Rio 2004)

__________

Lunar 

 

Music Is The Soul Bird That Flies In The Immense Heart Of The Listener . . .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2004 at 03:29
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:


I've very few respect for a musician who breaks his instruments


(except hendrix of course)



Usually I'm the same, but that is the same Hammond he's been throwing around on stage for the last 35 years (a 1960 L100, if anyone's interested) - they have delicate bits, but overall, they're damned sturdy, so will take that kind of treatment

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2004 at 13:05
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:


I've very few respect for a musician who breaks his instruments


(except hendrix of course)



Usually I'm the same, but that is the same Hammond he's been throwing around on stage for the last 35 years (a 1960 L100, if anyone's interested) - they have delicate bits, but overall, they're damned sturdy, so will take that kind of treatment

I'm told Wakeman did this sort of thing when playing with the Strawbs, deliberately having his Hammond set up as close to the stage edge as possible, and then threatening the front row with a potential toppling organ in mid solo (as the actress said to the bishop.....). My brother has fond memories of being in the flightpath of Wakeman's organ, being particularly active doing a tribute/compilation of Shadows hits. Soon as I heard about this,  I booked tickets to see the Strawbs at Guildford - alas by then Wakeman had left and a less physical Mick Blue Weaver (aka Wynder K Frog) had taken over......

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2004 at 13:06
Steve Howes guitar solo on "Machine Massiah", the bit where it goes "weeoow" with some rather dramatic use of wah wah.
Ridicule is the burden of genius.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2004 at 13:21

There was on show that Emerson did with ELPowell where he got so into the organ riding.. that he and the organ toppled off the stage.  He hopped back up and was waving for the roadies to come pick up the organ... but before they could, half the front row picked it up and put it back on stage for him....

Nothing like an interactive concert.....

But another one of my favorite Emerson moments....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2004 at 14:52

You never cease to amaze me with your encyclopedic knowledge Dick!Clap

Blue Weaver was Wynder K Frog!? Shocked

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2004 at 16:54
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

That part from 3:03.591 to 4:01.72, with the Hammond and the mellotron, where the synth goes 'bip bip bip zee boing doing -- sa-weeeee-garoooohgh!," and the guitar starts to go "bwoop boop di di di diddley mee dee dee diddly diddly mee dee dee," and the singer goes into that bit about the cosmic togetherness of it all!



Mr Rideout - do I perchance detect just a hint of dramatic irony, mayhap

We all know, a Hammond / Mellotron / Synth set up can never go "bip bip bip zee boing doing -- sa-weeeee-garoooohgh", unless, of course you are using the latest Korgand fellatiofuzz-tone pedal, which wasn't even invented until 2010 - I believe the sound you're describing was actually between 3:03.591 to 4:01.73, not 3:03.591 to 4:01.72, and can more accurately be described as "bip bip bip zee boing doing -- ka-blooooooeeeee"; if so, this was achieved by nailing a Hammond'd tone generator to the drummers head, then hitting him with a duck - a technique initially seen in the early '30s in the then unknown Laurens Hammond Whoopee Band ("a smile, a song and a dancing ferret"), used during the 57 minute proto prog classic "supper is about to be served, gentlemen, if you would like to take your seats".

I well remember.....




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2004 at 18:27
Some of my favorite prog moments-

- "The Soliloquy" in 2112, when Geddy explodes into "Just think of what my life might be, in a world that I have seen!" Also, when I read in the album sleeve that 2112 was inspired "by the genius of Ayn Rand," since i'm really into philosophy, and hers in particular

- The "ahh"  harmonization breaks in Close to the Edge, and when I saw Yes play that live in Cleveland this summer

- The opening of Dance on a Volcano

- I don't know how many fusionites there are here... but Chick Corea's solo on "Duel of the Jester and the Tyrant" off of Return to Forever's Romanitic Warrior... astounding

- I really like Renaissance's "Can You Hear Me". Definitely my favorite Renaissance tune

- Miles Davis' start into the main theme of Bitches Brew

- Emerson's intro to "Trilogy" and the entrance of the rest of the band


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