Lists with a twist!

my only objection to "Tarkus" is that robot armadillo tanks rarely help arouse me...but that's just me. Now, fem-bots, that's another story

Whatever you do, don't put Zappa on. For a man whose discography is chock full of sex, he makes an uncomfortable environment in which to actually have it.

I'm gonna have to try it with Anglagard's "Epilog"- instrumental albums seem to work best.

I heartily recommend anything by Segovia...you have no idea what flamenco can do to a woman (or do you?). If you really want the full duende, go to an actual flamenco performance (not the stuffy recitals, but the dances for which the music was intended). I can almost guarantee anyone you take to a flamenco party will get in the mood. Conversely, Mezquita doesn't seem to work as well- the vocals are a little distracting.

will you two stop with the innuendo stuff!!!

good greif, i feel like im intruding

where are my binoculars?

threefates wrote: Well Dude, if you've got something to offer... by all means.. intrude...

Naughty, naughty, naughty...  

Dick Heath wrote: James Lee wrote: Whatever you do, don't put Zappa on. For a man whose discography is chock full of sex, he makes an uncomfortable environment in which to actually have it. Zappa for killing passion on many a night if you are not careful!!!!!!!!!!!! "Sex = explicitness" here, i.e. deliberate rudeness and the music is sometimes the better for it (some times not) - especially to shock the mothers of the revolution. My favourite Zappa is Broken Hearts Is For A******es (ex. Shiek Yerbouti) because it was the catalyst that  got me out the doldrums of a major  broken heart - that specific line was smack on in my circumstances.

The line from from that song I most often remember is that wonderful refrain: "Ram it, ram it, ram it, ram it up the poop chute"

but that album also has the winsome love sonnet:

"And while
I was inside
I mighta been
Undignified
And that is maybe
Why you cried
I don't know
Maybe so,
But what's the difference now?

I have been in you, baby
You have been in me
Aw' little girl, there ain't no time
To wash yer stinky hand
Go 'head 'n roll over
I'm goin' in you again
In you again
In you again
In you again . . . "

Just perfect for occasions of tender intimacy!

Well I prefer Trent Reznor's "Closer" in intimate moments that will take you from boring to exciting in less than 60 seconds......

Bowl thing

You can make a valid point without resorting to personal remarks, you know.

Gotta agree about the spelling issue though.Given the international nature of this forum all kind of syntax, grammar and spelling errors creep in-so what?

I just love this forum!!!  I mean where else can I find people who can insult and compliment ELP all in the same sentence.  And you know I don't really care as long as we can continue to discuss them.  Am I addicted to them... you bet your bippy I am!!

Anyway, I can agree on pompous.  They were pompous.. and thats probably what made them so very special.  However, I hate and abhor the word pretentious used in reference to ELP... because they were never pretentious.. they were everything they thought they were...and more!

You can go back to insulting each other now...

Here's a few album lists - some obvious, some less so. Feel free to pick apart my choices and tell me I'm a fool.
Feel free also to make your own lists, using my titles or creating some of your own! If lots of us do it, it should make for some interesting debate.

10 Indisputable Prog Masterpieces:

1. Yes - Close to the Edge
2. Hatfield & The North - The Rotter's Club
3. Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts
4. Caravan - In The Land Of Grey And Pink
5. Anglagard - Epilog
6. Jethro Tull - A Passion Play
7. Yes - Relayer
8. Gentle Giant - Free Hand
9. Gong - Angel's Egg
10. King Crimson - Red

10 Criminally Underrated Prog Classics:

1. Kevin Ayers - Whatevershebringswesing
2. Murplev - Io Sono Murple
3. Robert Calvert - Captain Lockheed & The Starfighters
4. Krakatoa - We Are The Rowboats
5. Supersister - Pudding En Gistern
6. Osanna - Palepoli
7. Gryphon - Raindance
8. Van Der Graaf Generator - World Record
9. Focus - Hamburger Concerto
10. The Muffins - Mana/Mirage

10 Disgustingly Overrated Prog Albums:

1. Spock's Beard - Snow
2. King Crimson - Lark's Tongues In Aspic
3. Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans
4. Soft Machine - Third
5. Rick Wakeman - Journey To The Centre Of The Earth
6. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
7. Anything recorded by Genesis... ever.
8. ELP - Tarkus/Brain Salad Surgery - They're both horrffic.
9. Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
10. Traffic - The Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys

10 Progressive Near Misses:

1. Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
2. The Flower Kings - Unfold The Future
3. Curved Air - Air Conditioning
4. Henry Cow - Leg End
5. Jethro Tull - Heavy Horses
6. Yes - Tormato
7. Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
8. Thinking Plague - A History of Madness
9. Kevin Ayers - Shooting at the Moon
10. Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again I'd Do It All Over You

So... there we are! Your turn!

Well I'm not sure that you know what are you talking about.My comment on your list is "that is not really a list,that's just your opinion what you like and what you don't like.I can respect that but man-be serious.Your few misses:Anglagard,Hatfield&the north,Relayer-I don't know but the masterpieces are not.Then overrated albums:Tubular bells-I think that is a masterpiece and I belive that most of the guys stick with me here.And then about Genesis-if you don't like them that is your problem,the truth is -they are one of the greatest prog bands ever.I think the guys stick with me here too.Atom heart mother was good album.

Your 10 near misses:Atom heart mother was good album....and finaly

FRANK ZAPPA-HOT RATS?----You have to be joking? I know.It's hard to understand ZAPPA.Maybe in the future years you'll understand him-who knows.

Man,I'm almost mad at you.

• So here's the list.10 masterpieces not in particular order:
• Genesis-Foxtrot
• Frank zappa-Overnite sensation
• Frank Zappa-Hot rats
• Yes-Close to the edge
• King Crimson-In the court...
• King crimson-Red (yes,that is really one of the greatest masterpieces made ever--I saw that few guys putted that album under overrated albums but you have to listen the album again--here is some Brufford's best drumming--not really his best but better than on yes albums)
• Pink Floyd-The animals
• ELP-Almost everything
• Focus-3
• and once more Frank zappa-One size fits all

And for conclusion ZAPPA album HAVE I OFFENDED SOMEONE?

 

My personal list:

True Masterpieces

1. Genesis – The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
2. Pink Floyd - Animals (and Wish You Were Here)
3. Crimson – In the Court of The Crimson King
4. Yes – Close to the Edge
5. Genesis - Foxtrot
6. Tull - Thick as a Brick
7. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso – Darwin!
8. Anglagard – Hybris/Epilog
9. Rick Wakeman - Myths & Legends
10. Magenta - Revolutions
11. ELP – Brain Salad Surgery/Trilogy

10 Criminally Underrated Prog Classics:

1. Genesis – Nursery Cryme
2. Focus – Hamburger Concerto
3. Triumvirat – Illusions on a Double Dimple/Spartacus (Unfairly accused of cloning ELP)
4. Frágil – Sorpresa del Tiempo (Masterpiece of Peruvian Prog’)
5. ELP - ELP
6. Yes - Drama
7. Kansas - Leftoverture
8. Rick Wakeman – Criminal Record
9. Arthur Brown – The Crazy World of Arthur Brown
10. Steve Hackett – The Voyage of the Acolyte

10 Overrated albums:

1. Anything by The Beatles except Abbey Road
2. King Crimson: Everything after In the Court (Hang me, but that’s my opinion).
3. Yes - Going for the One (and Tormato)
4. Genesis – ATTW3/Duke/ABACRAP
5. Yes - Fragile
6. PFM – Photos of Ghosts
7. Floyd - The Final Cut
8. Marillion: Everything, especially Hogarth era
9. Coldplay: Not remotely Prog
10. Styx – Everything after Styx II

Don't believe in nearly misses, or you get it or not, as simple as that.

Iván

I agree with you most of the times but leave The beatles alone.They are the legends.I don't know they really belong on our prog pages but I think they were progressive a lot of times.And I dont think in a way like yes,KC,ELP etc but the thruth is that they invented (or better begin) a lot of music styles--and when the rest of the world begin to play this kind of music they went ahead.They made a huge ipression on almost all the bends after(even yes--the first albums --there is a lot of beatles sound there don't you think?

The beatles are not only love me do,hard day's night etc.There is Rubber soul,Sgt.Pepper,White album etc. and for that times I think  they were progressive and ahead of the music playing at that times.It's hard to imagine some prog creations without Sgt.pepper I think.And even some psychedelic streams without Rubber soul.The last two or three songs on the album Rubber Soul from 1966 announced a psychedelic era when in 1967 the stream exploded.You take the record and you'll see what I'm talking about.

So the music without The beatles wouldn't be the same then and now and that is a fact.The songs like Strawberry fields forever,A day in the life,Eleanor Rigby....This are the pearls.

And one small miss---King Crimson's Red is a heavy conceptual album and I think is a masterpiece.

No hard feelings,hang on.