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Poll Question: Nominate one piece and vote for three
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My nomination: Roberto De Simone - Kyrie



I apologize for the indecision, I decided for this piece taken from the Requiem for Pasolini, which seems to me better than the other (Libera Me Domine) a mix between sacred music and blues.

However, I am pleased that The Anders appreciated Tenores Di Bitti, which I have not yet been able to please me.



Edited by jamesbaldwin - October 11 2021 at 10:47
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

For strong stomachs only:


Try turning up the volume and listening. Be honest: did you make it to the end of the song?


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

For strong stomachs only:


Try turning up the volume and listening. Be honest: did you make it to the end of the song?


no EmbarrassedLOL

Oh yeah, so I'm not the only one!
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:
Also felt a little like those hard little dental floss brushes in my brain, but not altogether unpleasant.

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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My nomination: Roberto De Simone - Kyrie



I apologize for the indecision, I decided for this piece taken from the Requiem for Pasolini, which seems to me better than the other (Libera Me Domine) a mix between sacred music and blues.

However, I am pleased that The Anders appreciated Tenores Di Bitti, which I have not yet been able to please me.




A wonderful choice. :D

An I think you mentioned me probably knowing Pasolini if my memory is correct. My favourite film of his is Porcile (has a certain sentimental value).
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@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.



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One more from Lorenzo, with my first take on it:

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie”  A slightly dissonant chorus, which starts sounding in distress, perhaps.  It is joined with some soft orchestral horns and percussion, also some string join in, as it becomes more ecstatic.  A bugle? plays a short solo (meant perhaps to be similar to a shofar?), as in making an announcement.  A male voice comes to the fore, with a more blues presentation, organ and drums.  The chorus returns with the orchestra, then they call and response with the male singer.  All becomes quite triumphant in tone, with cymbal crashes and horns.  The blues treatment returns, with the male singer, then the horns and chorus are back, call and response again, still ecstatic, it comes to a climactic ending.  Sounds like it would be quite the film to see.  
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.


I've listened to it. Much better than Tenores Di Bitti, in my opinion.

It is clear that each country has its songs and the traditional folk dances, and each has its own dignity. Each tradition expresses not only a culture but a feeling, and the pleasure or dislike also depends on how much we are able to tune in to that wave frequency, to that feeling.

Folk / ethnic songs are very different from country to country.
I generally tend to be very interested in folk / ethnic music, but I don't like all of them. For example, I dont like Tenores Di Bitti and the "saudade" which imbues many traditional Brazilian songs (Instead I love the Argentinian tango).




Edited by jamesbaldwin - October 11 2021 at 14:05
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I have updated the poll with Lorenzo's an my nomination. Other people who have submitted songs, but not yet confirmed their nomination, are:

JD
Logan
TCat
Lewian
suitkees
mathman0806
Cristi
SuperMetro
Snicolette
Mila-13
dr wu23

Please let me know if I missed someone.


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I think I'll go with Mediaeval Baebes for this one.  
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Phoenix - Mugur de Fluier - final nomination 
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While I had second thoughts, I will stick with Ennio Morricone - Dies Irae as my nomination.
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I stick to Wim Mertens (the other one, Deep Forest, wasn't even commented on; I was pretty sure to not nominate it anyway).
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I stick to Wim Mertens (the other one, Deep Forest, wasn't even commented on; I was pretty sure to not nominate it anyway).
  I actually did comment, but both of yours are on my "relisten if chosen," list.  Smile

I take that back, I  think I inadvertently didn't add it after your first one?  Here is my take:

Christian:  Deep Forest “Sweet Lullaby”  (I am unfamiliar with this) Pan-type flutes (or done on keys?) and chanting open the piece.  There are sounds of crickets interspersed.  A woman’s voice softly sings while drums and keys underpin her voice.  The opening part repeats.  Hypnotic sort of song.  The woman returns and is joined by a choral group, sounds like children included.  Interesting how the vocalizations are similar to African ones and also, sometimes like Hawaiian Islands singing.  Nevertheless, a sense of antiquity to it.  You could choose either of yours and they will be in the “second listen,” category for me. 

I think I did get all up to here, please let me know if I missed anyone's that were in the running potentially.





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I nominate Bulgarian State Television Female Vocal Choir - Pilentze Pee.
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I'll go with this one for my nomination:

Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.

I've listened to it. Much better than Tenores Di Bitti, in my opinion.

It is clear that each country has its songs and the traditional folk dances, and each has its own dignity. Each tradition expresses not only a culture but a feeling, and the pleasure or dislike also depends on how much we are able to tune in to that wave frequency, to that feeling.

Folk / ethnic songs are very different from country to country.
I generally tend to be very interested in folk / ethnic music, but I don't like all of them. For example, I dont like Tenores Di Bitti and the "saudade" which imbues many traditional Brazilian songs (Instead I love the Argentinian tango).

You meant Portuguese fado, didn't you? Because Brazil has a wide variety of musical styles, beyond samba and bossa nova.
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.

I've listened to it. Much better than Tenores Di Bitti, in my opinion.

It is clear that each country has its songs and the traditional folk dances, and each has its own dignity. Each tradition expresses not only a culture but a feeling, and the pleasure or dislike also depends on how much we are able to tune in to that wave frequency, to that feeling.

Folk / ethnic songs are very different from country to country.
I generally tend to be very interested in folk / ethnic music, but I don't like all of them. For example, I dont like Tenores Di Bitti and the "saudade" which imbues many traditional Brazilian songs (Instead I love the Argentinian tango).

You meant Portuguese fado, didn't you? Because Brazil has a wide variety of musical styles, beyond samba and bossa nova.


Yes, Fado, but even some Brazilian musical styles, where I feel the saudade (for example, in bossanova I often feel it).
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I'm clueless what to choose this time around. Meredith Monk has participated here before. A look at the line-up tells me that my other two options don't fit in here either. They seem comparatively trivial, well sort of. I like my African vocal group a lot. This here might be another option. It's on the jazzy side which i like and there are some African drums too but I normally try to avoid artists from the Western English speaking world because they are usually well represented and also it is very likely that someone knows my chosen artists as it already happened with Meredith. But ok, I'll make an exception and give it another try. I'm sorry for my sudden change of mind! 

Here is my nomination (info will follow)

Damon Locks & Black Monument Ensemble: Now (Forever Momentary Space)



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