Documentaries On Cults?

MortSahlFan wrote: SteveG wrote: Why some people follow charismatic "leaders" is the real problem with cults, that in the present day extends to political figures too. I'm afraid that there is no set answer for this, just theories, unfortunately. What's scaring me nowadays are all the avatars of Zelensky and this worship JK :)

            This is a true story. A real experience I had at age 22. My first wife was born in a cult and when she was a baby there was some kind of ceremony that revolved around her. Whatever that was..I do not know.

During the second year of our marriage I discovered that her Mother's side of the family were some kind of cult..or perhaps a coven of witches that practiced Black Magic..I am unsure.

My first wife was trying to be a Christian. She went to Bible study with friends and studied the Bible at home. She kept going back to the occult and spiritually tormented between both forces or beliefs.

One night I was listening to music with a friend and we heard a crash at the door. I ran to the door and found my wife spread across the steps..blood everywhere..it was ridiculous. I grabbed a blanket and wrapped it around her. I carried her to the car , placed her in the back seat and saw that she had been sliced up badly...only these were carvings of pentagrams and other occult symbols carved into her flesh. Her legs and arms were covered with them. I couldn't stop the bleeding and so I drove her to the ER.


On the way there my friend said that he noticed the occult symbols carved into her body and he asked me.."Does she belong to some kind of cult?" I told him that I definitely thought it was a cult that did this to her.

When we arrived to the ER I carried her in my arms with blood everywhere and and nurses placed her on a stretcher and brought her in immediately.

I sat with my friend in the waiting room and after about 30 minutes we were approached by a doctor and two police officers. The doctor explained that he found traces of Cocaine in her nostrils and the police officers said that she was part of a drug deal gone bad.


I said..."She's in a cult! " "Check her body and look at the occult symbols " The police officer said.."No..it's not a cult" "There is no cult"

I got into this heated argument with one of the officers who refused to investigate it. He told me to stop with the cult stuff and leave if I don't. My friend didn't back me up. I was really angered by the situation. Could anyone tell me why this may have happened? Or...please give me an idea why you think the police and doctor refused to believe it....I apologize for getting personal and going off thread ...I'm just trying to understand why this happened..

Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - April 12 2022 at 15:14

Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:             This is a true story. A real experience I had at age 22. My first wife was born in a cult and when she was a baby there was some kind of ceremony that revolved around her. Whatever that was..I do not know. During the second year of our marriage I discovered that her Mother's side of the family were some kind of cult..or perhaps a coven of witches that practiced Black Magic..I am unsure. My first wife was trying to be a Christian. She went to Bible study with friends and studied the Bible at home. She kept going back to the occult and spiritually tormented between both forces or beliefs. One night I was listening to music with a friend and we heard a crash at the door. I ran to the door and found my wife spread across the steps..blood everywhere..it was ridiculous. I grabbed a blanket and wrapped it around her. I carried her to the car , placed her in the back seat and saw that she had been sliced up badly...only these were carvings of pentagrams and other occult symbols carved into her flesh. Her legs and arms were covered with them. I couldn't stop the bleeding and so I drove her to the ER. On the way there my friend said that he noticed the occult symbols carved into her body and he asked me.."Does she belong to some kind of cult?" I told him that I definitely thought it was a cult that did this to her. When we arrived to the ER I carried her in my arms with blood everywhere and and nurses placed her on a stretcher and brought her in immediately. I sat with my friend in the waiting room and after about 30 minutes we were approached by a doctor and two police officers. The doctor explained that he found traces of Cocaine in her nostrils and the police officers said that she was part of a drug deal gone bad. I said..."She's in a cult! " "Check her body and look at the occult symbols " The police officer said.."No..it's not a cult" "There is no cult" I got into this heated argument with one of the officers who refused to investigate it. He told me to stop with the cult stuff and leave if I don't. My friend didn't back me up. I was really angered by the situation. Could anyone tell me why this may have happened? Or...please give me an idea why you think the police and doctor refused to believe it....I apologize for getting personal and going off thread ...I'm just trying to understand why this happened..

if this is where i think it was, the cops were more interested in getting back to busting college students for pot

A few stories to shar⁸e about cults. In high school I was very close with a girl who was like a sister to me. She rode the school bus with the young man that was sacrificed at Menantico. Most people who got to know him said that he studied all religions, had a great sense of humor,..although could be quiet at times.


He had a box made out of metal. On the outside of the box were carvings of Egyptian hieroglyphics. On the inside were hallways that led through a maze. He would open the door of the box and place an animal inside. He would then slam the door piercing the animal with sharp nails located on the inside of the door. Quite like an iron maiden.

He graduated from sacrificing hamsters to Satan to resurrecting himself from the dead. The ritual he performed was rather obscure it seems as lots of people in Vineland NJ sit around a campfire drinking and discuss where he got the idea. Supposedly if you are in a specific place at a specific time with your two closest friends...who assist you in your death...it will work. You die violently so you can be put in charge of 40 leagues of demons.


The use of human sacrifice is older than recorded history and can be found in the Bog Burials, but what is the origin of this ritual? Where is it written? The difficulty in this case is that his sacrifice is directly tied into Christian/Satanism in his belief that his self-sacrifice would engender the protection of Christian demons. Like a role playing game it was strictly based on Christian demonology. His reference to 40 leagues or 40 legions is a Judeo-Christian concept derived from the writings of medieval theologians where demons had hierarchies and legions.


Some people claim it is written in the Satanic Bible, but I've never read the Satanic Bible so I would not know. Some people say that he was interested in Egyptian culture and that he studied the Egyptian book of the Dead and that he connected with the knowledge of the ritual that way.


Others claim that he garbled a ritual from a modern book on demonology or a modern translation. One individual in particular stated: "Whatever ritual he was trying to use was so hopelessly screwed up in his mind interpretation to be more tragic and stupid than ritualistic..but he was definitely responding to something he had read and believed."


Police dug up the lake and discovered animal remains. Charles Pangburn searched the young man's room and discovered books on Egyptian culture, witchcraft, demonology, and the Satanic Bible..additionally he confiscated literature dealing with the young man's cult that he refused to reveal. The two friends who assisted him in his death spent 5 years in Yardville Prison. After their release they both continued their involvement with a cult. While they did their time in prison..Pangburn spent two years interrogating a church and a list of wealthy individuals (middle age adults) belonging to a cult.


It's possible that Pangburn may have confiscated a diary belonging to the young man which gave him reason or cause to investigate further. In 1972 in Springfield NJ the skeleton remains of Jeannette DePalma were discovered on top of a cliff called the Devil's Tooth. Although this case was totally confusing regarding all the suspects and the letters written to the police..DePalma belonged to the Assembly Of God church . The church that was under investigation by Pangburn and his team of detectives and officers in 1971.


What kind of evidence did Pangburn have ? What would lead him to believe that a wealthy organization was behind this murder? I've always been curious about it. What could it have possibly been?

darksinger wrote: ...I found Satanism is not "Devil worship"-in fact, in their beliefs, they abhor the idea of "grovelling" before a Supreme Being. They also believe that Satan or Lucifer was betrayed by God when showing Adam and Eve love and view the giving of the apple as a metaphor for giving humans knowledge. Knowledge is a key thing for Satanists.

Edited by Hugh Manatee - April 12 2022 at 21:32

Oh dear, it looks like this conflict doesn't respect borders or sovereignty.

I believe two things are being conflated here. There are "Satan worshipping" cults and there is the notion of an eliteist child sacrificing cult which goes back to the blood libel, introduced to literally demonise any faction that people might deem "the other".

Edited by Hugh Manatee - April 13 2022 at 19:19

Hugh Manatee wrote: I believe two things are being conflated here. There are "Satan worshipping" cults and there is the notion of an eliteist child sacrificing cult which goes back to the blood libel, introduced to literally demonise any faction that people might deem "the other". The former is protected by the freedom of religion act and the latter is propaganda tool used as a weapon to elicit fear and drum up support, particularly within evangelical types. The two elements have been melded into one thing lately particularly thanks to the efforts of those behind the QAnon game. Fear is always a big seller in the conspiracy community.

darksinger wrote: cults do not have to be religious, by the way. There are non-religious cults, such as NXIVM

Edited by Hugh Manatee - April 13 2022 at 20:28