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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SouthSideoftheSky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2021 at 10:10
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

If Sherwood helped write previous songs then the proof is in the pudding, it was not very good. Why would this new album be any different?


He did help write songs for the albums he was involved in, and if you don't like any of those albums, then you're probably not going to like The Quest. It all boils down to expectations, the best we can hope for I think is that the new album will be as good as the band's 90's albums. If that is not good enough, then don't bother. Personally, I like 90's Yes, and I "defend" Sherwood as the rightful heir to Squire, and the band's best bet to make new music. Yet, as I've said before, I hope that Sherwood's influence on the new songs will not be too big, and that they've taken a band approach to composing, because I want a Yes album, and not something that sounds like a Sherwood solo album.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proghaven Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2021 at 10:48
I think this will be something close to Fly From Here. No idea why so many people here expect another Heaven & Earth, I’d say that ‘masterpiece’ from 2014 was just an occasional shameful episode in the band’s biography, just a hackwork. I agree with those who call Jon Anderson the spirit of Yes. I even consider him the ESSENCE of Yes. But even Jon Anderson was involved in such a shameful affair as Big Generator. The most important moment IMHO is always WHO WROTE THE MUSIC. No matter if Steve Howe is a producer, the main composer for The Quest is (according to recent gossips) Geoff Downes. If so, I’d say it’s more or less optimistic news. Do you remember how he worked on Fly From Here? It was the main author of Drama doing his best to make something as close (musically) to The Yes Album or Fragile as he could. Was he successful? In my terms, yes he was. Even despite the absence of Jon Anderson, the band musically led by Downes created a quite listenable album quite in the vein of genuine Yes. Why should we now expect a worse result? Some participants of our discussion decisively declared that they are not ready to pre-order The Quest. I did not make a decision yet (I collect vinyl and strongly prefer limited versions, so my decision to pre-order will mean a decision to spend a decent amount...), but anyway I see no reason for pessimistic prognosis.
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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

If Sherwood helped write previous songs then the proof is in the pudding, it was not very good. Why would this new album be any different?


He did help write songs for the albums he was involved in, and if you don't like any of those albums, then you're probably not going to like The Quest. It all boils down to expectations, the best we can hope for I think is that the new album will be as good as the band's 90's albums. If that is not good enough, then don't bother. Personally, I like 90's Yes, and I "defend" Sherwood as the rightful heir to Squire, and the band's best bet to make new music. Yet, as I've said before, I hope that Sherwood's influence on the new songs will not be too big, and that they've taken a band approach to composing, because I want a Yes album, and not something that sounds like a Sherwood solo album.

I guess that settles it then....discussion over! LOL
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The first track, The Ice Bridge, just dropped on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_tNZUv1L-c
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Originally posted by orthzar orthzar wrote:

The first track, The Ice Bridge, just dropped on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_tNZUv1L-c


First few seconds sounds like Fanfare For the Common Man
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Listened to the new song, The Ice Bridge, I thought it was kinda meh. Not offensively terrible or anything, some ideas almost seem like they could lead somewhere cool. But ultimately, I think it’s somewhat subpar and underwhelming. I think after so much vocals dominating for the first chunk, I kept waiting for them to break out into a cool, gritty instrumental and it just never happened. These tracks need more variety in the rhythm section, Alan White holds down the same basic and steady rhythm for nearly the whole 7 minutes and though Billy Sherwoods bass sounds very Yes, it still kinda falls into the same camp.
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I don't hear Howe and Sherwood in the vocal harmonies. Wonder if that will be so on the other tracks as well...
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New video just out

Not as bad as i feared but doesn't sound like Yes either



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2021 at 08:22
Howe here, there and everywhere Heart

But first and foremost, Geoff Downes in the foreground Approve Listen to that upfront call to arms....

I like it (like most YES, but, hey, I'm a fanboy)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2021 at 09:15
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

New video just out

Not as bad as i feared but doesn't sound like Yes either



Does not sound like Yes because it is a cover band now. Again, no need to pre-order anything it will be available in bunches.
It's highly forgettable, Lord of the Rings type stuff or possibly Hackett fantasy running thru the forest with wolves.
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^ generic 21st century symphonic prog at best.

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Again, no need to pre-order anything it will be available in bunches.
It's highly forgettable, Lord of the Rings type stuff or possibly Hackett fantasy running thru the forest with wolves.


You don't think there can be other reasons to pre-order something other than the fear that the thing in question will sell out and leave you without a copy? I will pre-order this album just so I get the album as soon as I can, that's it.

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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Again, no need to pre-order anything it will be available in bunches.
It's highly forgettable, Lord of the Rings type stuff or possibly Hackett fantasy running thru the forest with wolves.


You don't think there can be other reasons to pre-order something other than the fear that the thing in question will sell out and leave you without a copy? I will pre-order this album just so I get the album as soon as I can, that's it.

Pretty much that's the only reason to pre-order something, that it will sell out. I highly doubt this sells out, unless they only press like 50 of them.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

New video just out

Not as bad as i feared but doesn't sound like Yes either



Does not sound like Yes because it is a cover band now. Again, no need to pre-order anything it will be available in bunches.
It's highly forgettable, Lord of the Rings type stuff or possibly Hackett fantasy running thru the forest with wolves.

I got through about 6 minutes (but only because I was in another room doing something else). I would say it is boring and derivative. Musically, it sounds nothing like Yes. Thanks for sharing, I don't have to waste any money.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote foregonillusions Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2021 at 22:16
I love Jon Davison's work with Glass Hammer, and it's disappointing to see this is what he's involved with. Yeah, it's a better than Heaven & Earth, but so is the cicadas' orchestra that plays every night.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2021 at 23:59
That new song sounds better than I feared, better than anything on Heaven and Earth, and better than most of what I have heard Billy Sherwood involved with (including with Yes). And Davidson sounds better than all I have heard him with Yes before (live included). So, I guess I'm at least convinced to buy the album.
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The single sounds nothing like Yes but IMO it's not bad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2021 at 03:24
"It sounds nothing like Yes", well, not totally true, if it wasn't by Yes, certainly some would mention Yes as an influence. There's something in the general approach, the positivity, the way the instrumentalists go on about their business, even the vocals, that sounds quite yessy to me. And even if you don't agree, we wouldn't generally be complaining if a band shows some development, would we? I'm surely not a fan of Yes these days but leaving (wrong?) expectations aside, this is a solid prog song that even has some freshness to it. Neither have they descended into doing forgettable pop, nor do they just try to revive the old days. Fair play to them!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yogev Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2021 at 03:27
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

The single sounds nothing like Yes but IMO it's not bad.

Yeah It's OK, not so bad as we thought. But the problem I have with this song is that the playing sounded perfect, too perfect. The singer was loaded with auto tune.
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Yeah, the autotune is used a bit excessively here.
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