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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yogev Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2021 at 06:44
the last album by the 1975 "Notes on a Conditional Form" is an amazing pop album. and honestly i really like the future bites, there some great songs. 

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Arrived from across the pond today....
First spin......This is pretty good. Impeccable sound quality, the synth bass shakes my bones. We'll see if future spins makes this album bite! Big smile

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I think it is a very good album.
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The album has grown on me. I think it helped to try to ignore it’s relation to his previous works and listen without prog ears. It feels more rooted than To The Bone, which I felt went a bit in every direction and not really rooted anywhere. It’s got some great tracks, but the complete album is not quite there.

TFB is more complete and focused on his new sound. Of all the tracks, 12 Things I Forgot is my least favorite. It’s somewhat boring and easily confused with contemporary pop on the radio. The rest is a nice mix of sounds. I also like the 42 minute runtime.
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Saw this on 'Prog ears.'

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2021 at 15:52
Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

The album has grown on me. I think it helped to try to ignore it’s relation to his previous works and listen without prog ears...


With some albums I have thought, how would I or others react to the music if they had no idea who made it? So in this case, not just turning off those Prog ears, but forgetting or not caring about who made it. Would you be hard on it if it was some unknown who came out with this music? Or would it be something that you would even bother with if it came from some unknown and give it a second spin (assuming you had received access to it).

I have yet to hear this album beyond material that was released before. I am hardly only interested in Prog, and not being a Steven Wilson fan, I wouldn't judge it against his other works.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2021 at 15:55
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I have yet to hear this album beyond material that was released before. I am hardly only interested in Prog, and not being a Steven Wilson fan, I wouldn't judge it against his other works.

it's more or less an art-pop album, you might like it. Big smileLOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2021 at 16:20
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I have yet to hear this album beyond material that was released before. I am hardly only interested in Prog, and not being a Steven Wilson fan, I wouldn't judge it against his other works.


it's more or less an art-pop album, you might like it. Big smileLOL


Haha, I was just looking at the "Top 3 albums per genre that's not prog" and wondering which three "art pop" albums I should choose? And literally just now looking through a list of top art pop albums (various of which are deemed Prog or Prog Related by this site's standards).

EDIT: Listening to KING GHOST now and I am enjoying it. It's very true, I do like loads of art pop and progressive pop (much of which crosses over into art rock and progressive rock). I liked what I've heard of The Raven that Refused to Sing, but I still haven't listened to a lot of his music.

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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


Saw this on 'Prog ears.'

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He's absolutely right.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2021 at 09:18
Having spun this album several times.....This is hardly a pop album, maybe in Steven's mind in that he wants to harken back to ABBA, XTC, Tears For Fears. There might be one song that I could imagine being played on the FM radio, where we might say a pop song would gain popularity.
People who listen to Maroon 5 for example will not latch on to this album in anyway, it's not pop music. TTB had more pop music ingredients easily, Permanating is head and shoulders a pop song.

To me this album misses many marks of the traditional pop attributes, it's a plain jane regular ole rock/alternative rock album with a lot of electronic music elements. I think they are excellent songs, great music but the pop music fan will not connect with it at all. If Steven were to employ his normal band mates and let them rock on on these tunes, it would be another Deadwing album.
If anything my dislike of this album is that Steven is playing many of the instruments, so the music is missing that beef, weight or thickness even depth that normally is present in his solo albums.
He's not a good bass player, so that depth and realism is missing from some songs that Beggs brings on previous albums. The drumming is just fine, not having Jeremy Stacey or Craig Blundell on the album shows, there is weight and beef missing. To me a pop song needs to have a very catchy rhythm section and him on bass with Spearman on drums, I assume he is a session drummer, misses the mark.

I am wondering why he went the direction he did with the musicians, why Beggs and Holzman and Blundell are pretty much missing from most if not the whole album. Was it money? Covid? Different musical ideas, thoughts? I do think the long delay may have hurt him some. There was too much talk about the released songs being pop infused, the album is far from it. The online reviews are too involved, trying to dig too deep and dissect what SW was trying to do.....I don't think it matters.

I think its an excellent album and will remain in constant rotation for me. 
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