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Poll Question: Three favourites please!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2020 at 06:51
^ A kind of electronic acapella? LOL

Something else: This is from an outstandingly original album titled Antigravity, a collaborative work by Jac Berrocal, David Fenech and Vincent Epplay, three French musical explorers. Between free jazz, free electronics, free world, they propose something rather unclassifiable:

Jac Berrocal, David Fenech, Vincent Epplay - The Overload:





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2020 at 07:17
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I wanted to add something more experimental to my suggestions... this one is still pretty intuitive and atmospheric music, not so much of the "sound research" category that I'm also tempted to include, but anyway, here is Svarte Greiner - Easy on the Bones from the excellent Knive album.

Yes, I like this very much, but I actually prefer what he issued under his real name. For example, something a bit more percussive:
Erik K Skodvin - Red Box Curves (from the album "Flame"):


 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2020 at 15:34
Just listening to Venetian Snares - Hajnal. Very exciting music, firework of ideas! Before that one, I've got to say that Egisto Macchi is by far the best from Logan, wonderful soundworld, but I don't really get the others, Com Truise, OK, works well for the video. Wink
TCat has four winners there, hard to say which one I like most really. Juana Molina, interesting and creative, not quite my cup of tea. Meat Beat Manifesto, yes this kind of stuff is what I was waiting for, haha, very well done techno, is techno actually the correct genre for this? As much as I love electronic music, I haven't really paid attention to how this stuff is labelled. Dan Deacon, I don't quite like the overall sound of this but it's undoubtedly original and creative.
Banco de Gaia now, very cool, great musicality and development here. I'm happy to have suggested this theme, some great stuff to explore for me. The last two by Mathman would certainly be podium candidates.




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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Just listening to Venetian Snares - Hajnal. Very exciting music, firework of ideas! Before that one, I've got to say that Egisto Macchi is by far the best from Logan, wonderful soundworld, but I don't really get the others, Com Truise, OK, works well for the video. Wink
TCat has four winners there, hard to say which one I like most really. Juana Molina, interesting and creative, not quite my cup of tea. Meat Beat Manifesto, yes this kind of stuff is what I was waiting for, haha, very well done techno, is techno actually the correct genre for this? As much as I love electronic music, I haven't really paid attention to how this stuff is labelled. Dan Deacon, I don't quite like the overall sound of this but it's undoubtedly original and creative.
Banco de Gaia now, very cool, great musicality and development here. I'm happy to have suggested this theme, some great stuff to explore for me. The last two by Mathman would certainly be podium candidates.



Christian, listen to Nerolux, real name Francesco (Franz) Krauspenhaar, a German-Italian artist. I know him very well, he's a friend of mine. The first track is about history of Deutschland.





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2020 at 04:51
Hmm, I hope that still some people are enjoying electronic music. I have heard it all now, but I'll write some more about it later. Some mightily good stuff there. By the way, looking for music by Tom Dissevelt (thanks suitkees) I came across this:
...which offers 10 hours of pioneer electronic and space music from the 1940s, 50s and 60s for 20 Euro. I think I had about 1-2 hours of this already, but still, very exciting collection and well worth the money.

I'm looking at finishing nominations by end Wednesday, so there's still some good time to listen, give feedback, and take feedback into account when nominating.

Even new contributions are still very welcome!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2020 at 04:57
no posts here in two days Confused
time to consider our final nominations? 
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Thanks to the playlist I have been on an interesting trip through machineland. My take on electronics is probably a bit narrow-minded: I never really found much interest in Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze or even Jean-Michel Jarre - I find them in general too dull. Bands like Cluster, Harmonia or Kraftwerk... have much more of my attention. I try to avoid everything too ambient or too techno or too cheesy (think of late 70s and 80s film synth/sequencer sound tracks or Atari computers...). I'm more into the electronic (electroacoustic) experimentations of the 50s and 60s, or the later and recent experimental, avant-garde endeavours or soundscaping thingies...
That said, even the suggestions put up here that I would normally avoid were not that unpleasant (with one or two exceptions...). So, I will not be commenting on all songs - with my little introduction above you know where my preferences tend to - but give some mentions of those that stood out for me and/or were nice discoveries.

- Barbara Morgenstern: I don't know her work, and with the beginning of this track I was afraid of an overdose of Atari-cheese, but it soon becomes very interesting and quite good!
- Then there's a batch of more techno-oriented tracks; not really my thing but I must say that Hante was pleasantly surprising, to some extent.
- Didn't know Lothar & the Hand People, but both tracks are really great, especially Machines. Indeed, a must have!
- Egisto Macchi: This is just a masterpiece! Indeed, one should listen to the whole album, but I think that once you start listening, you cannot stop...
- Watercolour Guitars from the unknown Fireman. Wouldn't expect this from PMcC but it is very good indeed.
- Juana Molina: This has something very captivating, quite nice.
- Dan Deacon: A very good surprise! I like the different pieces put up here (although his improvisation a bit less). I will definitely explore more of his work.
- Venetian Snares: A very good discovery too. I like both pieces, but especially Hajnal!
- Mildlife: New to me but very good, nice and groovy. Yes I like this very much.
- Irmin Schmidt: The three dots, after I mentioned Krawtwerk here above, are for him!
- Nerolux: Interesting listen and good to have three different pieces up here, but with all the three I remain a bit unsatisfied. Maybe it is because he's staying every time with one (good) musical idea without combining this with some other ideas or more evolution within the piece - I am probably wishing for a bit more complexity...
- Simple Minds: I didn't know this one (I only have their Street Fighting Years album) and I like it very much!
- Sensible Soccers: same remarks as for Mildlife, I like this very much.
- Svarte Greiner: This is what I mean with "soundscaping thingies". It is very atmospheric and it drags you (me at least) in there.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2020 at 05:27
I was going to choose "Washing Machine" by Kate Bush until I read that you're looking for Electronica artists, so for me, it comes down to a choice between two local Derbyshire musicians, Andy Pickford & Bekki Williams, both of whom I've been to see Live in Derby.
 
 
Bekki Williams - River of Night's Dreaming
 
 
Andy Pickford - Terraformer
 
 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2020 at 05:45
^ Quite nice, both of these tracks! "Washing Machine" would be nice to but Kate Bush is on PA so would not qualify. For the rest, Lewian left us much leeway:
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

...about all things electronic but not on PA. What that means, I've got to say, is really up to you. It just should sound mostly electronic, but if you want it can have voice or drums or guitar, samples anyway, as long as this somehow doesn't spoil the overall electronic character. There is also freedom of styles, we can have techno, ambient, avantgarde/experimental, whatever you want.

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Now, before everybody thinks that I don't like cheese, here are two very accessible songs (because cheese with some bread and red wine makes a feast!). Both of these groups should be on PA, imo, but they aren't. Both from the early 80s.

Chris Evans & David Hanselmann - Salisbury Plain:
(From the album Stonehenge. I actually like both of the albums they did together very much, Stonehenge and Symbols)




And, Dutch glory, but only for a year or so: Tower - X.I.O:
(Here joined with Epilogue, from the album Titan - a really great symphonic rock album! They had two hits taken from this album in the Netherlands, and maybe also in Germany and/or Belgium, but split up soon after. Listen to the entire album here)



So, now you know that I also like "normal" music...


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Very different approach than my usual, since I knew I would have to go for what grabbed my attention with this kind of music.  Here are my thoughts up to the Erik Svodkin piece, of what got my attention.  

Hante “Tomorrow Is A New Day” interesting in dark way

Egisto Macchi “I Futurbili”  Ominous!  Got my attention

Klaus Morlock “Bethany’s Cradle”  Like the delicate creepiness of this one

The Fireman “Watercolour Guitars” Really enjoyed the spaciness of this

Kruder & Dorfmeister “Deep sh*t,”  Like the repetitive, hypnotic vibe of this. 

Venetian Snares “Hajnal”  kinda spacy classical jazz feel to this, then it got annoying

The Protomen “The Stand”  Good prog/rock type stuff, not fond of “speaking” though, where it happens

Simon Scott “Honeymoon,” like the harpy thingies

Irmin Schmidt “Toy Planet,” starts very quietly, sort of a repetitive choral sound, spooky

Anonymous Collective  Stereolab Kinks-ish vox  kinda trippy enjoyable

Banco De Gaia “Last Train to Lhasa”  like the Tibetan-y vocals and repetitive feel again.

Sensible Soccers - Nunca mais me esquece | No Ar | Antena 3  Enjoyed the hypnotic sense of this one with the guitar work, more feeling, less robotic than a lot of these have been.

Svarte Greiner - Easy On The Bones  I find this one very intriguing and spooky as heck! 

Weird Al Always been a fan. 


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Some more suggestions, great! (And some feedback.)
The Protomen: Not quite my taste; I tend to like proper electronic more than quite electronic rock music; this is a bit shy doing the electronics actually.
Varese & Le Corbusier: Groundbreaking stuff of course  - no way I cannot be intrigued by this
OMD: A positive surprise this one - I had tried a few times to get into OMD but always failed. This one is very enjoyable, I didn't have it on my radar.
Honeymoon: Another great proposal by suitkees - you will always find what I like! That said, despite the fact that I like the approach and treasure some quite similar stuff, I'd pick the other two of you over this one.
Midlife: This one is super catchy, smooth and relaxing. Not always the kind of stuff that I like but this one convinces me.
1000 Airplanes on the roof: This has some very nice and original ideas but comes over as a bit of a mish-mash lacking musical direction.
Nerolux: Haha, this is how the 1920s and 1930s must have sounded... not. Actually this is very exciting, maybe a bit too nervous.  
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Alright, I did change my mind, since the Egisto Macchi is my favourite of those I posted and it has received the most positive feedback, I will change that to my nomination. That Midnight Express does mean a lot to me, partially because I associate it with a film I have loved since I was about 12 -- our musical appreciation has associative value. I found the film profoundly moving (had not yet read the book it was based on). I have been something of a soundtrack collector, and that and the Das Boot soundtrack (saw Das Boot in the cinema) were two of my first loves.

And Samuel, that La Curva di Lesmo was an interesting one to compare. I had to struggle a bit to make the association, but was able to.

So my nomination is now the Egisto Macchi (had originally planned to which is why it was the first one I listed).



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I think, even though "Paul In Love," is more entirely electronic, I will nominate "Machines," as covered by Lothar and the Hand People.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Meltdowner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2020 at 11:02
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

OMD: A positive surprise this one - I had tried a few times to get into OMD but always failed. This one is very enjoyable, I didn't have it on my radar.
I was surprised as well a few years ago. They were a lot more interesting than their singles made me believe. I think they took Kraftwerk's "Radioactivity" for their musical blueprint.
 
 
I finished listening to the first page, my favourite from Mike was Broadcast although I was positively surprised to know that McCartney dabbled with that kind of music.
I really liked Venetian Snares, I didn't know I could find something with the Amen break so engaging.
Edgar Varèse's (I almost wrote Froese :P) poem is probably more interesting from the historical and visual point of view than the actual musical piece. Since I alread knew that OMD song, I'll go with Simon Scott from those three.


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

OMD: A positive surprise this one - I had tried a few times to get into OMD but always failed. This one is very enjoyable, I didn't have it on my radar.
I was surprised as well a few years ago. They were a lot more interesting than their singles made me believe. I think they took Kraftwerk's "Radioactivity" for their musical blueprint.
Indeed, they did. And if you like their Kraftwerk tinged synth pop, you might want to explore their subsequent album, a bit more experimental and thus a commercial failure: Dazzle Ships (click to acces the playlist), from 1983. And 30 years later, their English Electric is also worth while exploring...

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Not sure if anyone mentioned this but I recall listening to this back in the old days...can't seem to find my copy of the original vinyl....Confused...my last possible track.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TCat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2020 at 12:39
It's good to see everyone was as pleasantly surprised as I was about The Fireman (aka Paul McCartney).  I discovered this album about a year ago.  I think he put out 3 or 4 albums under this alias, and they are pretty good, but the album "Watercolour Guitars" comes off of is the best of them.  Still not sure if it will be my pick though.

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These later ones also caught my ear:  

Bekki Williams “River of Night’s Dreaming,” has more orchestral sound than a lot of these have, with an electronic repetitive underpinning.  Bordering on New Age, but not firmly stuck there, at least to my ear.

XIO “Epilogue”  I did like this one, for it’s progginess.

Well Tempered Synthesizer….I do remember this one, I remember it as “Switched On Bach.”


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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

OMD: A positive surprise this one - I had tried a few times to get into OMD but always failed. This one is very enjoyable, I didn't have it on my radar.
I was surprised as well a few years ago. They were a lot more interesting than their singles made me believe. I think they took Kraftwerk's "Radioactivity" for their musical blueprint.
Indeed, they did. And if you like their Kraftwerk tinged synth pop, you might want to explore their subsequent album, a bit more experimental and thus a commercial failure: Dazzle Ships (click to acces the playlist), from 1983. And 30 years later, their English Electric is also worth while exploring...
I only heard Dazzle Ships earlier this year but really liked it, it's on my mental wishlist. I couldn't get far on English Electric though, it's unpleasantly loud.
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