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Riverside do the Tool thing 20 times better and don't sound like Tool.

I mean the whispering and stuff.

Riverside are actually a great band.

And PT are the new Rush.
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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 19:49
And the lead singer/writer of The Paper Chase was the lead engineer for Explosions in the Sky's and This Will Destroy You's albums, among other things, and they're coming out with a double disc concept album later in the year, but I'm not going to try to suggest them for inclusion.
 
I'm not sure I've ever listened to Riverside.
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I like Tool way more. Riverside is ok but they never really clicked on me.

And PT are tons better than Rush ever wasTongue

ok now i'm seriously off.
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Simon Andersson, born December 18th 1980, is a Swedish musician. He was the bass player and background vocalist for the Swedish progressive metal band Pain of Salvation until late 2008. He has worked in one way or the other with people and musicians like Mats/Morgan, Meshuggah, Freak Kitchen, Bosson, Synkopaterna, Britney Spears, All Ends and Outshine to name a few. He lives in Eskilstuna, Sweden, has a "normal day job" and works as a freelance webdesigner and musician.




That's epic!

Also:

On his Myspace blog Simon Andersson confirmed that the band is currently working on a new record. "Just wanna say a big thanx to all of you who came to our gigs this year! We've been doing over 30 gigs in 18 countries so far, and we have had loads of fun. We will now work with the DVD and start recording the new album as well as rehearse with our new drummer. See you soon!"


Then he left in late 2008.

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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

lifeless and dull and washed out


Never thought I'd see anyone describe PoS in those terms, because IMO that's everything they're notLOL

Watch that Iter Impius video and tell me that didn't move you at allWink


I was speaking strictly in terms of their guitar tones, which among metal guitarists is regarded as some of the most boring and more lifeless guitar tone that ever made it on a metal record.

For examples of good guitar tone in metal: Mikael Akerfeldt and hey, on Ashes Against the Grain, that was great guitar tone.

And compare to PoS.

And seriously, I gave PoS a good shot, I listened to most of their albums at least twice over a 3-4 day period, and told myself I was gonna like it.
By the end of it, I felt like I wasted many hours of my life listening to it and wont bother with the band ever again.
Honestly, most off the really underground suggestion we get for the PMT that have like, 2000 fans or whatever, completely kill PoS.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Riverside do the Tool thing 20 times better and don't sound like Tool.

I mean the whispering and stuff.

Riverside are actually a great band.

And PT are the new Rush.


I've been listening to Riverside a bit lately, liked what I heard, but I'm thinking of voting to move them to heavy prog, but I'll make my decision in a few days. Heavy Prog, Prog Metal or whatever, it's a pretty good band I think.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 19:53
Some people aren't so anal about guitar tones though. LOL
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Riverside do the Tool thing 20 times better and don't sound like Tool.

I mean the whispering and stuff.

Riverside are actually a great band.

And PT are the new Rush.


I've been listening to Riverside a bit lately, liked what I heard, but I'm thinking of voting to move them to heavy prog, but I'll make my decision in a few days. Heavy Prog, Prog Metal or whatever, it's a pretty good band I think.


They're even better live.

And yes, Heavy Prog is where I see them too.
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Yeah, I've seen their videos, they are nice and nonsensically weird, but I don't see much that is redeeming about it in a prog sense. Or at all in my personal opinion but that doesn't mean nobody else can like them. I don't even care if people like Porcupine Tree, it is just completely f**king beyond me that Porcupine Tree are apparently the standard bearers of prog. Steve Wilson doesn't even think they're prog anymore! And I saw that Akerfelt vs Wilson trvia challenge, the man knows his prog!


Yeah, I like PT, but I sympathize with you on the 'they aren't really prog' bit.
Their last album featured about one proper prog rock song, stuff that you can tag as 'prog related' and the rest was not in the realm of progressive rock at all.
Exactly! If this were not a prog site I would understand why everbody has leapt on them, but it is.
 
I will grant you as well that I may be missing the complex stuff that is happening under the boring surface of Tool's alt metal. I admit I have a prejudice against the style they use and I have to struggle to stop myself from turning it off when they drop into those whispered vocals and softer, slower distorted guitars sections that are in every damn alt-rock/alt-metal/post-grunge song. If you have no idea what I am talking about, skip to 1:30. Although of course Tool are better than Breaking Benjamin.
 
And it's ok to like to like alt-rock! One of my favorite bands is The Paper Chase!


I wont argue with you, I think there is a fair bit of the alt rock sound happening in Tool, but what separates Tool from those alt rock bands, is that I could listen to 10 000 Days over 100 times and every single time, I picked up small subtle details that just make it all add up to a degree of complexity and attention to detail that you just wont hear in a standard alt rock outfit.
Whether you have the patience or not to listen to a record everyday for the next 2 months to see what I mean is another thing, but the small details/subtle nuances are all there if you give it the time.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 19:59
Yes but music has to be enjoyable to listen to.

I don't listen to Tool to work out the Fibonacci Sequence on the drumming. LOL
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:07
Tool was a band I didn't get at first.
I first heard them, maybe 6 years ago, but until 2008, I just didn't get them at all.
Meshuggah, I remember hating for years and years, and then late last year, it completely clicked and I fell in love with their music.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:08
I'm the opposite.

I liked Tool.

Then 10,000 Days came out.
Then I saw them live.

Since then I have severely gone off them.
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:10
I'm one of those rare few that prefers 10 000 Days to Lateralus.
I must be weird.
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Points: 11682 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:18
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:



And PT are tons better than Rush ever wasTongue


why make this fact small? Wink
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:18
you are all weird
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Points: 65330 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:19
I like Tool a lot but then it kinda starts to sound samey, and a tad commercial
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

you are all weird


We knew that already though.
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Points: 65330 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:21
oh and Birds of Fire doesn't have soul? ..HA I say, HA!
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:22
Heh, PT kinda sounds commercial, so does Rush at times.
The only stuff that isn't going to have elements of 'commercial' in it, arguably, is the most out there stuff anyway and a lot of people that come here stick to the classic bands of prog anyway, which kinda makes it commercial maybe.
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Points: 65330 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:23
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Heh, PT kinda sounds commercial, so does Rush at times.
The only stuff that isn't going to have elements of 'commercial' in it, arguably, is the most out there stuff anyway and a lot of people that come here stick to the classic bands of prog anyway, which kinda makes it commercial maybe.


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