The Shred Room or The In-Betweeners Club

June wrote: Yeah, I can see how that could be annoying. I actually understand very little about guitar. I started lessons 2 years ago, and did fairly okay (according to my teacher) but can't really afford it anymore so I had to stop last June. And the other instruments I did, I didn't do long enough to get into the complicated stuff. For some reason, my mind just doesn't absorb all the mathematical thing in music, so anyway, I could only go so far. Maybe I'll look into this Holdsworth guy. Better than Vai? (I just can't stand Vai these days, for some reason)

It gets to a point where it doesn't sound "mathematical" anymore and where learning theory and applying it can truly be translated into the colors, the feelings of music.
I mean, I started off playing blues rock guitar, Page/Hendrix-esque stuff, but it got to a point where I didn't feel like I could express myself enough anymore, that those emotions were very limited in scope.
So I got into Joe Satriani and Steve Vai in 2005, and it literally changed my life and the way I saw the guitar.
All those emotions that I had been wanting to hear in my head, these guys could give to me and much more and now I've started to pursue the route of learning virtuoso guitar, which has its advantages because it means down the track I can get more auditions for bands and if I choose to become a full time guitar teacher, I'll be able to get more students most likely.

Holdsworth summed up= legato god, chords of doom, huge stretches, synthetic scale craziness.
His music is like this insane emotional rollercoaster for me.

That's the thing, Harry.  Musically I find a B.B. King, Peter Green, Duane Allman and Warren Haynes solo much more soulful than a shredder solo.

I've watched my mate shred his way through Floyd and all sorts and well, it just doesn't sound as amazing.

Atavachron wrote: twiddly he is   ..an inhuman genius, but twiddly

Yep.

He was less twiddly in his Nucleus and Soft Machine days and his tunes actually sounded like tunes, rather than just random soulless solos.

Speaking of virtuoso, have you guys ever seen Vai's comment on his audition with Zappa?

Now this is the Holdsworth I love.

Crap... Beatlemaniac just called me from work... he'll most likely be layed off after the holidays.

HughesJB4 wrote: June wrote: Speaking of virtuoso, have you guys ever seen Vai's comment on his audition with Zappa?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6cplMM3d_Q  Zappa is an absolute god to Vai. You can hear Zappa's influence in many of his compositions. They are both geniuses, for different reasons though. Along with Joe Satriani, Vai advanced the guitar to such an amazing height. Zappa had the honesty and humbleness to see his limitations on the guitar technique wise, so he hired other guitarists, to be able to see his compositions come to light. Christ, I want to listen to Zappa now that I say that

Zappa rocks.

That video rocks.

Holdsworth how I like him.

June wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: June wrote: Crap... Beatlemaniac just called me from work... he'll most likely be layed off after the holidays.   Stupid automobile industry Wait what? I must have missed the rest of this story. Where does he work exactly?   Nope, there's no rest to that story, he did just call. His union will be voting tomorrow on whether laying 40-60 employees or making everyone go part-time. He works for a bearing company, and the auto industry is a big part of their buyers, so that's the problem. Happy New Year!

I meant, like, who is he working for specfically? (What bearings manufacturer?).

My dad got layed off 2 years ago from where he worked for most of his working life and it wasn't cool:(