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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Beasty Heart
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 21:57 |
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
I always thought the Beatles were overrated personally. A fair amount of their legacy is only tangentially related to music if you look at it overall.
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So I'm guessing here I can safely say that I think the Kinks were actually better than the Beatles? |
I don't really like either one, but I agree with you that they're better.
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What next? Don't tell me you don't like Cream either? |
No, I don't like Cream. The simplest I get in terms of music is something like Boston's debut or ELO, and I don't listen to either much anymore.
Edited by MovingPictures07 - December 16 2008 at 21:58
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Epignosis
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Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
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Points: 32538
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 21:58 |
James wrote:
NaturalScience wrote:
June wrote:
Just want to check... it seems pretty obvious to me, but can you guys actually recognize who's on my avatar? Or is it just too small? |
No clue who it is.
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Ian Anderson.
Although he looks like Cyggie there.
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June
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 03 2008
Location: Montreal
Status: Offline
Points: 6521
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:00 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
I always thought the Beatles were overrated personally. A fair amount of their legacy is only tangentially related to music if you look at it overall.
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So I'm guessing here I can safely say that I think the Kinks were actually better than the Beatles? |
I don't really like either one, but I agree with you that they're better.
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What next? Don't tell me you don't like Cream either? |
No, I don't like Cream. The simplest I get in terms of music is something like Boston's debut or ELO, and I don't listen to either much anymore.
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You're breaking my heart.
Simple can be good.
Mmm... some Iggy tonight, why not...
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
Status: Offline
Points: 25210
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:01 |
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
I always thought the Beatles were overrated personally. A fair amount of their legacy is only tangentially related to music if you look at it overall.
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So I'm guessing here I can safely say that I think the Kinks were actually better than the Beatles? |
I don't really like either one, but I agree with you that they're better.
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What next? Don't tell me you don't like Cream either? |
I like Disraeli Gears, bought that album a few years back. But if it must be known, I'm more of a modern music fan really.
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Beasty Heart
Status: Offline
Points: 32181
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:02 |
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
I always thought the Beatles were overrated personally. A fair amount of their legacy is only tangentially related to music if you look at it overall.
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So I'm guessing here I can safely say that I think the Kinks were actually better than the Beatles? |
I don't really like either one, but I agree with you that they're better.
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What next? Don't tell me you don't like Cream either? |
No, I don't like Cream. The simplest I get in terms of music is something like Boston's debut or ELO, and I don't listen to either much anymore.
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You're breaking my heart.
Simple can be good.
Mmm... some Iggy tonight, why not... |
I've accustomed myself to prog so much that I hardly find interest in anything that doesn't reach the same levels of complexity. It's really perfect for me anyway, since I can't stand anything that is simple generally (it's in my personality---I tend to overcomplicate anything when I do make mistakes).
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June
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 03 2008
Location: Montreal
Status: Offline
Points: 6521
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:02 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
I always thought the Beatles were overrated personally. A fair amount of their legacy is only tangentially related to music if you look at it overall.
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So I'm guessing here I can safely say that I think the Kinks were actually better than the Beatles? |
I don't really like either one, but I agree with you that they're better.
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What next? Don't tell me you don't like Cream either? |
I like Disraeli Gears, bought that album a few years back. But if it must be known, I'm more of a modern music fan really.
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Define modern.
CocoRosie rocks your boat?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
Status: Offline
Points: 89372
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:04 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Points: 89372
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:06 |
Cream are not simple.
They're not complicated though.
But I'd like to see you play like Clapton even if he is overrated. Oh and Jack Bruce is a wonderful bassist. Ginger Baker is a wonderful drummer.
I have Disraeli Gears and it's a great album... except Mother's Lament, which isn't my thing.
Listen to Neil Young and get back to me.
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June
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 03 2008
Location: Montreal
Status: Offline
Points: 6521
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:06 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
I always thought the Beatles were overrated personally. A fair amount of their legacy is only tangentially related to music if you look at it overall.
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So I'm guessing here I can safely say that I think the Kinks were actually better than the Beatles? |
I don't really like either one, but I agree with you that they're better.
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What next? Don't tell me you don't like Cream either? |
No, I don't like Cream. The simplest I get in terms of music is something like Boston's debut or ELO, and I don't listen to either much anymore.
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You're breaking my heart.
Simple can be good.
Mmm... some Iggy tonight, why not... |
I've accustomed myself to prog so much that I hardly find interest in anything that doesn't reach the same levels of complexity. It's really perfect for me anyway, since I can't stand anything that is simple generally (it's in my personality---I tend to overcomplicate anything when I do make mistakes).
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I can understand that. But for me, it can go either directions (hey, I play for both teams ). Usually, I can't stand middle of the road though.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
Status: Offline
Points: 89372
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:07 |
Huggles like Between the Buried and Me's Alaska.
He's obsessed.
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Beasty Heart
Status: Offline
Points: 32181
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:07 |
James wrote:
Cream are not simple.
They're not complicated though.
But I'd like to see you play like Clapton even if he is overrated. Oh and Jack Bruce is a wonderful bassist. Ginger Baker is a wonderful drummer.
I have Disraeli Gears and it's a great album... except Mother's Lament, which isn't my thing.
Listen to Neil Young and get back to me.
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It doesn't matter whether it's simple or not; I simply don't care much for that stuff.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Points: 89372
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:09 |
I don't know how you can differentiate the complexity of Rush and Cream.
Yes they play different music and in different styles but talent wise they're similar. Cream are maybe less complex but I wouldn't say they are simple.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
Status: Offline
Points: 25210
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:09 |
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
I always thought the Beatles were overrated personally. A fair amount of their legacy is only tangentially related to music if you look at it overall.
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So I'm guessing here I can safely say that I think the Kinks were actually better than the Beatles? |
I don't really like either one, but I agree with you that they're better.
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What next? Don't tell me you don't like Cream either? |
I like Disraeli Gears, bought that album a few years back. But if it must be known, I'm more of a modern music fan really.
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Define modern.
CocoRosie rocks your boat? |
CocoRosie? I tend not to listen to stuff before the 80s really and I'm the sort of guy that always looks forward to upcoming releases and don't really have that "OH MAN THE PAST WAS BETTER" attitude.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Points: 89372
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:10 |
Besides, Derek and the Dominoes are better than Cream.
Duane Allman kicks arse on their album. He outshines even Clapton. An amazing album.
Key to the Highway is awesome.
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Beasty Heart
Status: Offline
Points: 32181
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:10 |
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
June wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
I always thought the Beatles were overrated personally. A fair amount of their legacy is only tangentially related to music if you look at it overall.
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So I'm guessing here I can safely say that I think the Kinks were actually better than the Beatles? |
I don't really like either one, but I agree with you that they're better.
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What next? Don't tell me you don't like Cream either? |
No, I don't like Cream. The simplest I get in terms of music is something like Boston's debut or ELO, and I don't listen to either much anymore.
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You're breaking my heart.
Simple can be good.
Mmm... some Iggy tonight, why not... |
I've accustomed myself to prog so much that I hardly find interest in anything that doesn't reach the same levels of complexity. It's really perfect for me anyway, since I can't stand anything that is simple generally (it's in my personality---I tend to overcomplicate anything when I do make mistakes).
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I can understand that. But for me, it can go either directions (hey, I play for both teams ). Usually, I can't stand middle of the road though. |
I guess it just depends. It's all simply my taste, really. For example, I'm listening to IQ right now. I absolutely love this album (The Seventh House) and it's probably my favorite neo-prog album. It's not the most complex prog, but it's definitely not run-of-the-mill rock either. It's the intriguing, unique, intellectual elements that suck me in, I suppose. Hardly ever do I just listen to music with the intent of not completely immersing myself in it. After 4 years of developing my tastes well into prog now, I guess some music just doesn't cut it for me.
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Beasty Heart
Status: Offline
Points: 32181
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:11 |
James wrote:
I don't know how you can differentiate the complexity of Rush and Cream.
Yes they play different music and in different styles but talent wise they're similar. Cream are maybe less complex but I wouldn't say they are simple.
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Dude, that's hilarious. Rush are on a completely different playing field. How can you even compare the two bands when they hardly have anything in common except roots?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
Status: Offline
Points: 89372
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:12 |
I'd said Cream are sonically more interesting than most neo-prog.
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June
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 03 2008
Location: Montreal
Status: Offline
Points: 6521
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:12 |
You gotta look up CocoRosie if you like new stuff. Delightfully weird. Used to be even weirder.
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Beasty Heart
Status: Offline
Points: 32181
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:13 |
James wrote:
I'd said Cream are sonically more interesting than most neo-prog.
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A decent amount, maybe. Listen to the Seventh House and then tell me that though.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
Status: Offline
Points: 89372
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Posted: December 16 2008 at 22:17 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
James wrote:
I don't know how you can differentiate the complexity of Rush and Cream.
Yes they play different music and in different styles but talent wise they're similar. Cream are maybe less complex but I wouldn't say they are simple.
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Dude, that's hilarious.
Rush are on a completely different playing field. How can you even compare the two bands when they hardly have anything in common except roots?
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Easily. I'm not talking about musically. I'm talking about the performers. Peart vs. Baker Lee vs. Bruce Lifeson vs. Clapton They're all equal in terms of skill and complexity. I bet Lifeson could play a Clapton solo and vice-versa. I bet Baker could play similar to Peart. Both are trios. Both have the bass player as a vocalist. Both have great guitarists. Both have weird and unfathomable lyrics. They are similar and I believe technically they're about the same. Cream just came earlier. If Cream had lasted, they could have made more complex, Rush-like music. Besides, you like Kansas.
Edited by James - December 16 2008 at 22:18
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