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Queen By-Tor 
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 Posted: October 22 2008 at 16:46 |
Well... I probably couldn't get into the album. The lady on the other hand... 
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Padraic
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 16:50 |
 cacho wrote:
It took me days Seriously, it is one of Yes's toughest albums to get into as well as Tales(for it's lengthiness).
I enjoy Gates of Delirium pretty much, but thinking about it as a whole, the 'Soon' section doesn't flow at all IMO, it just ruins it all, even if it's beautiful. 16 minutes of Gates of Delirium are brilliance and chaos while the rest ruins the flow, though not neccesary bad.
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Couldn't disagree more. When you think of the "chaotic" part as the war, think of "Soon" as the aftermath, surveying the battlefield in the misty morning and viewing the hell that man has unleashed on fellow man, yet there is an element, a ray of hope ("the sun will lead us, our reason to be here") that we will persevere and survive. It's because this gentle part follows the ferocious chaos that I was (and still am) so moved by this piece.
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Padraic
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 16:51 |
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Oh, and Rob, it's all falling into place, and I'm with you. This is the best VdGG album.
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febus
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 16:55 |
NaturalScience wrote:
cacho wrote:
It took me days Seriously, it is one of Yes's toughest albums to get into as well as Tales(for it's lengthiness).
I enjoy Gates of Delirium pretty much, but thinking about it as a whole, the 'Soon' section doesn't flow at all IMO, it just ruins it all, even if it's beautiful. 16 minutes of Gates of Delirium are brilliance and chaos while the rest ruins the flow, though not neccesary bad.
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Couldn't disagree more. When you think of the "chaotic" part as the war, think of "Soon" as the aftermath, surveying the battlefield in the misty morning and viewing the hell that man has unleashed on fellow man, yet there is an element, a ray of hope ("the sun will lead us, our reason to be here") that we will persevere and survive. It's because this gentle part follows the ferocious chaos that I was (and still am) so moved by this piece.
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Well said, Pat. i wanted to answer Pablo's post as well but you did not only faster, but definitely better than i would have  . Soon is so beautiful and you Pat, such a magnificent talented poet   ...Ah! the misty morning........!! 
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Padraic
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 16:56 |
Analysis comes easy when you've been listening to something for almost 20 years. 
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febus
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 16:57 |
NaturalScience wrote:
Oh, and Rob, it's all falling into place, and I'm with you. This is the best VdGG album. |
Again agree with you....''Lost'' is great...''the house with no doors'' great too ..actually the only VDGG i can listen to in its entirety!
Edited by febus - October 22 2008 at 16:58
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febus
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:00 |
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:05 |
febus wrote:
NaturalScience wrote:
Oh, and Rob, it's all falling into
place, and I'm with you. This is the best VdGG album. |
Again agree with you....''Lost''  is great...''the house with no doors'' great too ..actually the only VDGG i can listen to in its entirety! |
Really you guys?
I like H to He a lot, but personally I don't think anything compares to Godbluff. That's my VdGG of choice
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:18 |
febus wrote:
NaturalScience wrote:
Oh, and Rob, it's all falling into place, and I'm with you. This is the best VdGG album. |
Again agree with you....''Lost'' is great...''the house with no doors'' great too ..actually the only VDGG i can listen to in its entirety! |
YESSSSS!!! and other enthusiastic noises. A perfect album.
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:19 |
They're the one band that I'd say released five masterpieces in a row. I'm happy with people preferring Godbluff. Also a great album. H To He has Lost, though, so...
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:22 |
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I think they released a lot of masterpieces in a row, that's for sure.
KBT ratings:
TLWCDIWTEO - ****
H to He - ****
Pawn Hearts - *****
Godbluff - *****
Still Life - *****
World Record - ***
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:22 |
NaturalScience wrote:
cacho wrote:
It took me days Seriously, it is one of Yes's toughest albums to get into as well as Tales(for it's lengthiness).
I enjoy Gates of Delirium pretty much, but thinking about it as a whole, the 'Soon' section doesn't flow at all IMO, it just ruins it all, even if it's beautiful. 16 minutes of Gates of Delirium are brilliance and chaos while the rest ruins the flow, though not neccesary bad.
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Couldn't disagree more. When you think of the "chaotic" part as the war, think of "Soon" as the aftermath, surveying the battlefield in the misty morning and viewing the hell that man has unleashed on fellow man, yet there is an element, a ray of hope ("the sun will lead us, our reason to be here") that we will persevere and survive. It's because this gentle part follows the ferocious chaos that I was (and still am) so moved by this piece.
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My main issue with that song is:
| Kill them. Give them as they give us |
So painfully bland.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:28 |
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LinusW
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:29 |
 More Genesis? Yes, yes, I know. These are strange days. Oh, am I the only one who find Watcher of the Skies a little bland?
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:31 |
LinusW wrote:
More Genesis?
Yes, yes, I know. These are strange days.
Oh, am I the only one who find Watcher of the Skies a little bland?
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Nope. I think the Genesis Live version is much, much better, though. There are some great moments on the studio one, but I think large chunks of it don't quite work. Time Table is also something I've historically not been 100% fond of, though it's growing on me. Rest of the album's fantastic, though.
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Rivertree
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:33 |
  
Edited by Rivertree - October 22 2008 at 17:33
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:36 |
NaturalScience wrote:
cacho wrote:
It took me days Seriously, it is one of Yes's toughest albums to get into as well as Tales(for it's lengthiness).
I enjoy Gates of Delirium pretty much, but thinking about it as a whole, the 'Soon' section doesn't flow at all IMO, it just ruins it all, even if it's beautiful. 16 minutes of Gates of Delirium are brilliance and chaos while the rest ruins the flow, though not neccesary bad.
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Couldn't disagree more. When you think of the "chaotic" part as the war, think of "Soon" as the aftermath, surveying the battlefield in the misty morning and viewing the hell that man has unleashed on fellow man, yet there is an element, a ray of hope ("the sun will lead us, our reason to be here") that we will persevere and survive. It's because this gentle part follows the ferocious chaos that I was (and still am) so moved by this piece. |
I get what you mean, but I think the moment in the chaos and peace are connected, it isn't well done.
Well, doesn't matter, we won't reach to an agreement anyways.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:38 |
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TGM: Orb
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Joined: October 21 2007
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:42 |
King By-Tor wrote:
I think they released a lot of masterpieces in a row, that's for sure.
KBT ratings:
TLWCDIWTEO - ****
H to He - ****
Pawn Hearts - *****
Godbluff - *****
Still Life - *****
World Record - ***
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Orb ratings: TLWCDIWTEO *** H To He - ****** (yes, that's 6) Pawn Hearts *****.5 (yes, that's 5.5) Godbluff ***** Still Life ***** World Record ***** The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome ****
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febus
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 17:42 |
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