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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 03:37
moving swiftly on..................Wink
 
Can anyone recommend a good sauce to go with goose, we usually have a turkey, and therefore serve bread sauce and cranberry sauce.......... will these be ok with the goose?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 03:46
^ Goose is often served with Red Current Jelly, so Cranberry would be fine I would imagine. I've always considered bread sauce to be an abomination, but each to their own Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:22
Goose is a very rich meat, so I'd go with a fruit based sauce/jelly; cranberry's OK if you make it yourself (shop bought is just sweet muck), but go easy on the sugar - you want it tart, but not sharp (delicate balance...).

And Dean - I'm with you re bread sauce; an offense against nature.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:25
Mmmmm - potatoes/parsnips roasted in goose fat

Vicky and I are having duck this year; the fat's not quite as tasty as goose, but still makes excellent roasties!

All the above is fine talk coming from someone who was vegetarian for over 10 years

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:26
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Mmmmm - potatoes/parsnips roasted in goose fat

Vicky and I are having duck this year; the fat's not quite as tasty as goose, but still makes excellent roasties!

All the above is fine talk coming from someone who was vegetarian for over 10 years
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:29
I know, but it's nasty pre-rendered stuff by comparison; no - I'll cook the duck on Christmas eve & use nice fresh fat for the roasties.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:38
And it's stupidly expensive (£10/kg!!). I have large quantities of duck fat left over from making duck confit so always cook my roast tatties in it,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:42
I am sorry to rain on your parade, but the idea of cooking things in animal fat really makes me shudder... Yes, I've read about that in cookbooks, but I've always had an aversion to animal fat and fatty meat (I always take the fat off my prosciutto, for instance, and the skin off chicken) - however tasty they may be.

I remember last summer in the US, when I bought refrigerated pie crust in order to make peach pie for the man of my dreams Heart, I found out it contained lard - and when baking it smelled like sausages as well!Dead The taste was nothing to write home about either... I only use butter for baking, and extra-virgin olive oil for cooking (sometimes for baking too), though lard is used in traditional baking in most regions of Italy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 08:03
So why did you & Micky pose for this then?





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 08:41
Extra-virgin Olive Oil is a little too overpowering for roast potatoes (and burns too easily IMO giving it a nasty bitter taste instead of the normally nice bitter taste of E-virgin), though other forms of vegitable oil are okay, I guess, at a push, just.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 08:45
You're right about EVOO burning easily - this is a consequence of being cold-pressed. However, I never use very high temperatures, and I do actually use very little fat in any case. I suppose it's all a question of personal taste, at the end of the day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 10:28
The British Lard Marketing board...Jim, that ad had me falling over laughing.  Absolutely priceless. Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 10:30
A few times in my life, I have fried up some bacon, then cooked some eggs in the leftover grease.  It was so awesome, but I was so horrified I was going to have a heart attack on the spot that I'll never do it again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 11:40
If I fry up some bacon and cook some eggs in the drippins', I have to pour the majority of it out or else the eggs are just swimming in the stuff.

Man, now I'm hungry for a big breakfast. Favorite meal of the day.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 11:53
Goose fat for tatties and snips is a MUST! yummmy yummmy!
 
As well as the goose for 7 people I am also catering for a vegan on Christmas day which is fun and I manage to keep everything seperate, but boy those potatoes look sad next to our goosey ones!
 
This afternoon I have just completed baking 8 dozen mince pies.  I made 2 kilos of pastry and had two baking trays on rotation in the oven!
 
I am just having 5 mins sit down before I start peeling potatoes for dinner!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 12:31
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

If I fry up some bacon and cook some eggs in the drippins', I have to pour the majority of it out or else the eggs are just swimming in the stuff.


Eggs need to be fried in a fair amount of fat (lard for preference, sorry Raff ), which is almost smoking hot initially, then turned down so the underneath doesn't burn; also remember to use a long handled spoon to 'baste' the top of the egg while they're frying; this way, you're guaranteed a well cooked egg with a liquid yolk - putting the cooked egg onto a piece of paper towel gets rid of most of the fat as well - fried eggs should not be fatty.

The same goes for bacon; if the fat's not hot enough, the meat will absorb it, if it's at the right temperature, it will seal the meat almost immediately, preventing fat from being absorbed.

This is the great thing about lard - it cooks at a much higher temperature & unlike a lot of processed, so called 'healthy' fats/oils, it's completely natural, so your body knows how to deal with it.

Bottom line - nothing wrong with a well-cooked fryup, so long as you don't live on the stuff.

Here endeth the lard lecture lesson.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 12:35
Originally posted by prog-chick prog-chick wrote:

As well as the goose for 7 people I am also catering for a vegan on Christmas day which is fun and I manage to keep everything seperate, but boy those potatoes look sad next to our goosey ones!


Oh God - I remember the 9 or 10 Christmasses when I was vegetarian; looking with longing at the meat & proper roast potatoes on other peoples' plates, then down at my nut roast & spuds cooked with sunflower oil...

...NEVER AGAIN!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 12:52
I know Jim, I was veggie for 6 years,  Christmas was HELL, but it was actually one of E-dubs fry-ups that got me in the end.... I just NEEDED a bacon sandwich!
 
I try to make the vegan Christmas dinner as appetizing as poss and it is usually appreciated!
 
going back to the fat issue, processed fats are one molecule away from plastic..... natural stuff here! In fact on Christmas day (and other important meals) we make our own butter - yummy! (can't be beaten with scones and home made strawberry jam!)
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 13:52
Originally posted by prog-chick prog-chick wrote:

I know Jim, I was veggie for 6 years,  Christmas was HELL, but it was actually one of E-dubs fry-ups that got me in the end.... I just NEEDED a bacon sandwich!


Every year around late summer when my father-in-laws garden tomatoes are ready and ripe, I have a "BLT" day and make a ton of sandwiches for all.  With proper tomatoes it really is one of the best meals!  (and I eat until I'm full, then another 2 sandwiches Wink)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 18:34
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

If I fry up some bacon and cook some eggs in the drippins', I have to pour the majority of it out or else the eggs are just swimming in the stuff.


Eggs need to be fried in a fair amount of fat (lard for preference, sorry Raff ), which is almost smoking hot initially, then turned down so the underneath doesn't burn; also remember to use a long handled spoon to 'baste' the top of the egg while they're frying; this way, you're guaranteed a well cooked egg with a liquid yolk - putting the cooked egg onto a piece of paper towel gets rid of most of the fat as well - fried eggs should not be fatty.

The same goes for bacon; if the fat's not hot enough, the meat will absorb it, if it's at the right temperature, it will seal the meat almost immediately, preventing fat from being absorbed.

This is the great thing about lard - it cooks at a much higher temperature & unlike a lot of processed, so called 'healthy' fats/oils, it's completely natural, so your body knows how to deal with it.

Bottom line - nothing wrong with a well-cooked fryup, so long as you don't live on the stuff.

Here endeth the lard lecture lesson.


Sometimes I cook eggs with maybe a pat of butter, but I've never gone overboard with it and it's been fine for me. Been doin' it like that for over 30 years and haven't had any complaints.

Sometimes I'll put bacon on a baking sheet and cook them in the oven at a high temperature. I find they don't curl up as much.

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