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That's a neat idea, but a HUGE proje(K)ct!!! Thanks to you there is one less in "the list" (album no. 70340), but there are still... 16257 albums with no Total Time!!! It's 25% of the whole database! Where do we begin? ![]() http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=50 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=74 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=91 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=115 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=118 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=127 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=163 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=166 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=168 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=176 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=199 : : : http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71701 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71706 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71719 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71734 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71746 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71756 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71757 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71763 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71765 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71768 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71769 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71771 ![]() |
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7287 |
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Second one: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64788 - No track times, and title of the album is just "Lost Connection".
See: https://www.fughu.com/releases/lost-connection/ and https://open.spotify.com/album/5URFVK30Tm7iTteMxNORkg. 1. Peggy (5:30) 2. Pixel Hero (5:49) 3. Call Now! (5:02) 4. Stay (5:25) 5. The Goat (5:30) 6. Told You (7:51) 7. Right from the Bone (3:22) 8. Martian (4:50) 9. What If (7:42) 10. Vexed Flower (4:35) Total Time 55:36 Edit:
Two less when you've done this one...but OMG!!! ![]() Can you narrow it down somehow to just the ones without individual track times? Those are the ones that most need dealing with imho. Edit 2: It would probably still be a huge list even if you managed to narrow it down. All those early additions that you listed above have no individual track times, and at least half the recent ones too. A bridge too far, methinks.
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^ Thanks, album no. 64788 fixed!
... the ones without individual track times : something around 9768 albums ![]() So about 15% of the database... For example: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=50 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=74 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=91 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=115 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=118 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=127 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=163 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=166 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=168 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=176 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=199 : :
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2981 |
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^ Well, thanks again, fixed.
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7978 |
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I agree, handle almost 10 000 albums would be too much monkey business. And every day the number is growing. If Mayer always posts info here and some collabs update their additions, the majority doesn't care. I propose to check with Julien's weapon how many albums have: 1. empty track lists 2. empty line-ups 3. empty release info and then decide what's next. I hope the tool is able (or it needs some programming) to detect not only fields (windows) with 0 symbols inside, but the ones containing only empty lines as well. Another helpful search would be by keyword "duplication" (to detect albums sentenced to death but forgotten for some reason).
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2981 |
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^ Mmm, I'm pretty proud of my new tool! Now I can answer your questions...
1. empty track lists: 59 albums 2. empty line-ups: 2443 albums 3. empty release info: 4928 albums 4. with the word "duplication": 4 albums What do you want first?
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7287 |
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^ ^ I guess it's become an impossible situation for PA with so many artists now included on the site, and thus generating an ever-increasing avalanche of new albums that need adding. There's no way that collaborators alone could handle that volume of work, but allowing any registered member to add albums to the site totally unchecked has sadly resulted in the situation we have now. Even if it were possible to get a team of volunteers together to work their way through this huge build-up of incomplete album additions, the exercise would be somewhat pointless unless a system was devised that diverted all future new album additions by PA members to a 'pending approval' section where the details could be checked by approved collaborators before the albums were finally added to the site for public viewing. That task alone would probably be an impossible amount of work for our collaborators, never mind the task of finding out the info for and fixing all the existing incomplete entries that have built up here over the years.
It'll be interesting to see what Julien's tool is able to reveal regarding those empty fields, duplications, etc that you mentioned above, and even more interesting to learn what's next! Edit: Too slow writing my post! Julien's tool works much faster than I do! That's quite some piece of code you have there sir!
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7978 |
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![]() Looks like only ponts 4 (I want it first) and 1 are manageable.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2981 |
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^ Here it is:
1. empty track lists: 59 albums http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13971 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13972 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13973 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13974 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17436 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17437 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19135 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19136 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19204 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20413 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=21775 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22816 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24722 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24723 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24724 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24725 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26214 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26293 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26295 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26307 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26380 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26399 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=27210 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29950 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=31562 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=31563 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=31564 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=31572 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=31837 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=36314 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=36318 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=36322 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37065 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37066 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37566 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37583 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37604 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37740 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37751 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37752 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37757 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37769 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37873 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40965 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42954 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43361 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43675 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43692 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=45441 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48765 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53413 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55142 4. with the word "duplication": 4 albums http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5719 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15422 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16132 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=46711 ![]() Edited by projeKct - February 26 2025 at 17:27 |
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7978 |
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Thanks, Julien. One album has to die: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5719 - has 7 reviwes. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15422 - has similar entry, both are reviewed, some authors most likely unavailable, nothing we can do about them. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=46711 - has the track 1. Duplication of the World (6:55), not guilty, let it lives. ![]() Edited by NotAProghead - February 01 2021 at 07:50 |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2981 |
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^ Wait!
![]() I've just found more by searching "duplicat" instead of "duplication". So we get "duplicated..." http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1644 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2558 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2838 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2848 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5298 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5719 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5919 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6892 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10425 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10585 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12197 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12587 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13390 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15422 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16132 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20264 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23330 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32000 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32089 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32391 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37116 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43692 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44073 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=46711 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48580 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=49346 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52995 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57821 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64886 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65162 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65221 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=70952 |
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7978 |
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^ Thanks, Julien, sorted.
I'll take care othese ones: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2838 - contacted the reviewer http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2848 - ------------ '' ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43692 - belongs to another band, deleted by admins The rest are either from previous list or innocent (released by Duplicate Records, contain "duplicate" word or its variations in songs' or album titles). I wonder do artists calling their songs "Duplication" so naive that they seriously expect to be successful? ![]() Or all good titles already used by the giants? Edited by NotAProghead - February 06 2021 at 11:44 |
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2981 |
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But... haven't we talked about them recently?
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7978 |
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^ Yes, sir, and I PMd the reviewer before the New Year, he read but ignored my message. Now I PMd him once again.
EDIT 6.02.2021 - review reposted, asked admins to delete duplication. Edited by NotAProghead - February 06 2021 at 11:46 |
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It seems our actual //TO DO list is:
But to prevent doible work on the same albums we need to somehow share them, i.e. to decide who handles what. Perhaps David and Mayer would like to participate too. Any ideas? Edited by NotAProghead - January 31 2021 at 20:57 |
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^^ Yeah, now I remember.
About http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6892 maybe the NOTE could be clearer, or less "agressive". What do you think? And to answer your question about my tool being able to detect fields with empty lines: sure it can! We call it "white space". I go even further for detecting albums with no lineup. From the 2443 albums in this list, 364 have the classic - Name / guitars - Name / drums lineup... ![]() For example: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2671 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2675 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2851 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2861 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2862 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2863 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3040 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3138 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3288 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4273 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4614 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5315 : :
: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64484 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64740 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66904 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66975 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=67054 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69228 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69911 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71122 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71540 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71673 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71682 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71772 Edited by projeKct - January 31 2021 at 20:34 |
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Oops, my list was incomplete: here are the 59 albums with no tracklisting. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=45441 - unofficial, to be deleted by admins? Good idea to get more people involved! But right now I must admit that I will have to take a short break, because I begin another crazy week at work, so sorry... weekend is over! ![]() P.S. (NAP) I mark here handled albums with strikethrough font.
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