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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony R Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2007 at 09:04
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Granted I don't have a large fan club that eagerly awaits my album reviews... a sad lot they would be hahahha.... 
 
Personal opinion time folks..
 
Yeah, I am eagerly awaiting your Rush reviews....bought a baseball bat just for that very job...Wink
 
 
 
If all the reviews were similar in style they would quickly become redundant.I think Mickey's review is unusual, kinda similar in some ways to one of Cert's recent ones which in itself was different from the usual fare we get here.
 
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Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Granted I don't have a large fan club that eagerly awaits my album reviews... a sad lot they would be hahahha.... 
 
Personal opinion time folks..
 
Yeah, I am eagerly awaiting your Rush reviews....bought a baseball bat just for that very job...Wink
 
 
 
If all the reviews were similar in style they would quickly become redundant.I think Mickey's review is unusual, kinda similar in some ways to one of Cert's recent ones which in itself was different from the usual fare we get here.
 
 
An Italian lady told me me about the suffocating amount of letters received by Micky... I suppose they come from eager people, either to praise you or to beat you. Big%20smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2007 at 11:15
I don't think it needs deleting Micky. I was jsut observing that you are in a minority not applying a rating which reflects your own opinion of the contents.
 
I can't think of anyone else who would give a 5 star review to an album he didn't like.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2007 at 11:54
But wouldn't that be consistent with giving a lower rating to an album you love, doesn't this logic go both ways? For example my highest possible rating for any Zeppelin album for this site would be a maximum 4 stars (provided the progressive excellence; only Houses of the Holy, Physical Graffiti and the live DVD would get the four stars), despite the fact any kilobyte of their official or unofficial discography is at least a 5 stars experience for me... On the other way round, there are albums that I would rate 3 stars If I were to only measure the pleasure they give me, but finally I'd give them one extra-star (or even two, maybe, but I can't remember any album right now for which I'd do this) because of what makes them
-masterpieces that I can't like, but can accept
-highly influential from a historical perspective
-essential definitions of the (sub)genre they represent.
The "problem" with Micky's rating is the BIG difference between his own personal experience of the music and his objective thoughts on the albums musical and not only musical qualities. He went from one star to five stars. IMO, the rating guidelines (rate both music quality and progressiveness and also express by your rating the degree in which prog collections need that album) allow Micky's take on rating an album; the one star-five stars difference may rise doubts on his honesty, I think many people will think "he just did that to look open-minded in the eyes of prog-metal fans". Maybe he should explain more in detail why he thinks the album is a masterpiece of progressive metal, and If so then I think everything would be OK with everybody.
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I don't think it needs deleting Micky. I was jsut observing that you are in a minority not applying a rating which reflects your own opinion of the contents.
 
I can't think of anyone else who would give a 5 star review to an album he didn't like.


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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I don't think it needs deleting Micky. I was jsut observing that you are in a minority not applying a rating which reflects your own opinion of the contents.
 
I can't think of anyone else who would give a 5 star review to an album he didn't like.


as I told Raff last year Bob... you'll never meet anyone else like me LOLWink
 
Eh, I told this to my wife... and she believed me! Cool
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Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I don't think it needs deleting Micky. I was jsut observing that you are in a minority not applying a rating which reflects your own opinion of the contents.
 
I can't think of anyone else who would give a 5 star review to an album he didn't like.


as I told Raff last year Bob... you'll never meet anyone else like me LOLWink
 
Eh, I told this to my wife... and she believed me! Cool


hahhahah and she believed me as well....  I don't think I've let her down either. CoolCoolLOL

oh yes.. back on topic..

Andu...  I saw your post...  I'll respond to it if you wish later, dinner is almost upon me,  I don't review much and think there are bigger issues here than the eccentricities of my infrequent reviews... though I'm flattered  you care LOLWink


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Originally posted by andu andu wrote:


The "problem" with Micky's rating is the BIG difference between his own personal experience of the music and his objective thoughts on the albums musical and not only musical qualities. He went from one star to five stars. IMO, the rating guidelines (rate both music quality and progressiveness and also express by your rating the degree in which prog collections need that album) allow Micky's take on rating an album; the one star-five stars difference may rise doubts on his honesty, I think many people will think "he just did that to look open-minded in the eyes of prog-metal fans". Maybe he should explain more in detail why he thinks the album is a masterpiece of progressive metal, and If so then I think everything would be OK with everybody.


as promised.. my final thoughts on this review...  you all I hope have better things to worry about...

Prog-metal fans are under NO such illusion as to my open-mindedness....
nor have I given them any reason to....

 As I stated in a PM to the reviews admin.... I was hard.. but fair...  to give it one star based on what I .. a confirmed prog-metal hater would not be fair. I just don't get what it is about.. that doesn't take away from the perceived 'greatness' of the album for fans of the genre

that should sum it up.... 

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I don't really have a problem with rating it by historical value, but copy-paste reviewing is slightly lame.
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You told your wife about Micky, Guigo?Shocked
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I don't think it needs deleting Micky. I was jsut observing that you are in a minority not applying a rating which reflects your own opinion of the contents.
 
I can't think of anyone else who would give a 5 star review to an album he didn't like.
 
This is a possibility for me. Butit hasn't happened yet.
 
Imagine an album that you hate Dark Side Of The Moon or LTIA or Foxtrot, but you know it is a cornerstone of an album in prog, something that almost anyone and everyone will like, but for some odd reason you don't. I can recommend albums I don't like to someone if I happen to have an info that someone is obviously unaware of.
 
I gave some recommendations of album I didn't like to a technofan because he wanted to discover the very early roots of his fave style. Among which were some of the least liked by me back then (Faust Tapes)
 
 
 
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

You told your wife about Micky, Guigo?Shocked
 
 
 
 
LOL
 
RAF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Shocked
 
 
Some competition in the runningLOL
 
 
 
Guigo wants to get rid of someone I believeLOL


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I just noticed that the DT review was written by Micky.
 
Believe me, I never saw the name of the author, I KNOW HOW MICKY THINKS IN THS ASPECT, HE CAN HONESTLY RATE AN ALBUM HE DISLIKES.
 
Normally contradictory reviews are written by lurkers or fanboys, so I never check the name of a review reported.
 
I thought it was a guy trying to create confusion, I may have my differences with the hahahaha guy, but I know his reviews are honest.
 
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This is so ridiculous.... I'm the DT fanboy here, and, with the exception of the "acne" bit, I'm the only one that hasn't said anything against the review!!ConfusedLOLLOLLOL
 
What would you say if I had given Kayo Dot (sorry, it's my best possible example) 5 stars just because the Collaborators picked it as album of the year, but explained that to me it was worthy of one? Oh, my review would've gotten the axe treatment so swiftly, nobody would've even complained...LOLAngry
 
Yeah, right, this Clique thing is not good.... WinkAngryAngry
 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

This is so ridiculous.... I'm the DT fanboy here, and, with the exception of the "acne" bit, I'm the only one that hasn't said anything against the review!!ConfusedLOLLOLLOL
 
 
Me too... just like I told my wife (poor girl!!!). TongueWink
 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

This is so ridiculous.... I'm the DT fanboy here, and, with the exception of the "acne" bit, I'm the only one that hasn't said anything against the review!!ConfusedLOLLOLLOL
 
 
 
The point iis not the rating T, you can give 10 stars if this is allowed,  the problem is that it sounded contradictory, Knowing Micky has wrote it and despite my strong differemnces with him in some issues, I know he tried to make clear he doesn't like the album but he believes it deserves 5 stars.
 
It's his perspective and in his case I know he has listened the album, but wiythout that information it soubnded like a guy describing the album as an "F"and rating it with an "A+"
 
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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=22135

Not exactly much wrong with this, but a few things to note:

Karl Jenkins was not on this record, so therefore his rating is most likely incorrect, because he believes he is.  Also it is known when it was recorded, he should have done his research beforehand.

Plus the review is a bit short and doesn't say much.

Any ideas?


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Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=98126

NOT BAD AT ALL! Hey SB fans, I know this album has not been oficially released yet but I was able to hear it three times today from a friend that got a copy from sources he would not divulge. I have to say this is not a bad effort at all, I found that it was up there with Octane, maybe even higher, I think this is SBs best effort since Neal Morse left the band. Their sound is still very keyboard heavy but getting heavier and maybe even darker. This is definitely an album to get even if you just enjoy SB and you are not a big fan of them, the music is highly enjoyable and very progressive indeed. My only complaint is that the band has not yet reached a fine level of "feeling" in their songs, most of the songs just evoke the same feeling in me and it's that slightly-theatrical- maybe-even-a-little-hyperactive feeling most of their songs have had until up to date.

Overall a very good release though, most fans will be pleased!


the bolded statement says all ?
 
Not only that, it doesn't say anything that demonstrates us he actually heard the record! Just a little imagination and you can write reviews for un-released albums without having even listened to them (as I proved with a DT review in this lounge a while ago).
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Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=22135

Not exactly much wrong with this, but a few things to note:

Karl Jenkins was not on this record, so therefore his rating is most likely incorrect, because he believes he is.  Also it is known when it was recorded, he should have done his research beforehand.

Plus the review is a bit short and doesn't say much.

Any ideas?
 
i have never heard music from that band, and yet I found the review somewhat useful.... at least it says something about production and there's thousand reviews out therevthat need to go first
 
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