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ThyroidGlands ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2023 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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TOAPP is better than Discipline.
Animals is overrated. Camel is very boring, and Mirage is one of the most overrated prog albums. CTTE has a perfect side a and a decent side b. It's a highly overrated album.
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Bloody bloody racket and rumpus
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Online Points: 18533 |
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GuruCan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 24 2024 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 1452 |
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These days, 'Book of Saturday' is the only track from LTiA that still feels fresh to me.
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GuruCan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 24 2024 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 1452 |
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To me, 'The Present' by The Moody Blues is a total five-star gem from the 1980s because the album is packed with stunning tracks that really capture a unique vibe, and Patrick Moraz’s synthesizer playing is absolutely fantastic!
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vectoria ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: November 30 2024 Location: United state Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I love how subjective music tastes can be! I totally agree with you on 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason'—it doesn't get enough credit for its atmosphere and mood. And yes, 'Think of Me with Kindness' is an underrated gem! Music's beauty lies in these unique perspectives
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29372 |
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It's an okay album. I remember it being the first Yes album I ever heard and it was a while before I bothered listening to anything else by them. It wasn't particularly cutting edge at the time, mostly prog was getting left behind especially in the use of synths excepting for the likes of Tangerine Dream (assuming they are prog) and the likes of Vangelis and JM Jarre. Yes were also splitting apart as a band but at least had the last one great hurrah with Drama before they descended into the 80's AOR scene. Personally I like Release Release a lot. I roomed with an AC/DC fan in the early 80's and he loved playing my copy of Tormato just for that although I'm not sure he liked anything else on that album. It is quite eclectic and book ended by a couple of great tracks. Overall it fails to satisfy though and this is from a band that hasd hit some massive highs. Sub par Yes anyone? Not many like it that much and it just reminds us that prog was in decline ultimately, at least ELP were still doing side long suites!
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8717 |
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I meant to get back to you on this; Chocolate Kings was somehat of a divisive record; some fans did not like new lead singer Bernardo Lanzetti, due to his vocal style or the English lyrics, and yearned for the earlier sound of the band...to say it is their best album would, indeed, be a stretch for many.....
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29372 |
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I think they lost a lot of that 'warmth' and originalty at this point however it does have a harder jazz fusion edge. Personally I love Out Of The Roundabout but some of the tracks have a truncated half finished feel about them. Agree that the vocal was divisive but also I prefer his singing on Jet Lag for some reason. That is a little quirkier, funkier and perhaps a little underrated. All that said I believe that PFM never returned to the very high level of the first 3 albums. L'isola Di Niente has the perfect balance of ideas for me especially.
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KorgC3 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2024 Location: Netherworld Status: Offline Points: 42 |
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Rick Wakeman's post 70s output is genuinely great. People tend to mock his later works. I've seen arguments ranging from him being "way too derivative of his influences", or that he's a "schematic boring w**ker with one to two decent tracks per-album".
I guess some of his stylistic choices are an acquired taste, but I don't see why he deserves to be lampooned more than anybody else. Many people seem to overlook his innovation, especially when it comes to combining different musical styles and eras. Some of the artists associated with MGM cartoons like Raymond Scott and Scott Bradley, are genuinely some of the most innovative musical minds of their eras. Given how far they were pushing unorthodox compositional elements before it was common, I believe that they deserve to be taken more into consideration, not only in discussions about important 20th-century composers, but also Prog music in particular. Dream Theater has generally awful mixing, even in their best albums. I don't like most their new stuff, and the synthetic mixing is one of the reasons, but their recent output is already a subject of contention amongst the fans. I don't see that many people ever considering production issues when it comes to their older quintessential works. If to put it simply, I think that there is no balance between the volumes of the different instruments. The drums and the synthesizers are noticeably louder compared to the other instruments (vocals included), and the bass is completely overwhelmed and lost in the final mix. I see some coming with the argument, that loudness is a key feature of Metal, therefore this is justified. DT, however, never came from that branch of loud "punk" inspired Metal. Roughness was not part of their image either. Honestly, compare them to any of their contemporaries, or even bands partially influenced by them like Circus Maximus and Haken. None of them had such readability issues with their album mixes as DT. In fact one of the reasons to why I got into live bootlegs, is that I wanted to get a better grasp of Myung's bass. Listening to their bootlegs made me appreciate the bands virtuosity much more. I'm not a huge fan of LaBrie, but the way he re-harmonized certain vocal lines in some of his performances before the poisoning incident, made me enjoy some of these live versions more than the album mixes. Honestly, the bands problem is that they hinge too much on sustaining the image of a "calculated" act, while in-fact, they are at their best when they simply improvise on a whim. Edited by KorgC3 - December 03 2024 at 23:40 |
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ObeisantBread84 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 05 2024 Location: America Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Sincerely, Bread
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Frets N Worries ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 30 2023 Location: Your Basement Status: Offline Points: 4235 |
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Not sure how hot these are, but I believe "Flight" is Hammill's greatest (solo) musical achievement, as well as King Crimson's "Islands" being superior to "Lizard"
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