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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: April 28 2014 at 00:50 |
NotAProghead wrote:
^ Are you sure?  John Wetton: "In King Crimson, I'd been playing the the most ridiculously complicated rock music in strange time signatures. Uriah Heep offered me a refreshing break from that. I could just be myself, have some fun and play some really strong rock music. The reason [I joined] was definitely not for money. At that time, Roxy Music were offering me the same money as <span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.2;">Uriah Heep</span><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.2;"> , if not more, I just didn't want to stay in Roxy Music.</span><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.2;">" (From Dave Ling's "Wizards and Demons")</span> |
yeah, I knew that statement of Wetton. Too hard for Logan-Woffinden to imagine something like that. It's better to rely upon backbiting. Isn'it?
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M27Barney
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Posted: April 28 2014 at 08:52 |
I have two or three Uriah Heep originals (Vinyl)...but whooooo My copy of "Look at Yourself" on CD has mysteriously disappeared from my CD collection.....On reading this thread I can rule out "Theft by Music Critic" as a reason for it's disappearance!!
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Posted: April 28 2014 at 11:48 |
^^^
aha hah ah
from my point of view, you probably can't rule it out!!!
Actually, it could be an attempt of damnatio memoriae against the mighty Heep 
Edited by Andrea Cortese - April 28 2014 at 11:49
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Hercules
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Posted: April 28 2014 at 12:07 |
No-one remembers the critics.
We all remember Heep. End of story!
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Posted: April 28 2014 at 12:48 |
Uriah Heep are great no doubt.
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Posted: April 28 2014 at 21:01 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
I find it a bit strange to read about this kind of hostility towards UH. I only just got the "Magician's Birthday" album, and so far it's the only one I've heard, but I found some really beautiful songs on it, and I really liked Byron's singing, I can't imagine anyone having being bothered by his voice, I find it just beautiful, one of the better aspects of the band. |
I agree with you for the most part , and I bought the first album when it came out in 1970.....Byron is not a 'bad' singer and their music is not that bad at all ......though I did stop buying them after Magicians Birthday.
I prolly should listen to those that came out in the rest of the 70's. |
Same here, stopped after Magician's Birthday [EDIT: Check that, the last UH album I bought was Sweet Freedom with the single "Stealin'"]. And you probably shouldn't waste your time listening to what came after -- having listened meself, it's not at all like what preceded it.. Just a friendly suggestion. 
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Yeah. Actually, since I did enjoy Magician's Birthday, I inted to get some of their earlier albums, and wasn't really planning on getting the later ones. I guess I would get at least D&D, and the other two albums that are rated higher on this site... plus perhaps the live album too, I would expect to have a rather comprehesive collection of their best work that way. I don't expect to want to go into a collection frenzy and get all I can from them. Though I might be tempted to get the Wetton albums too, just because he is part of the band there, but I guess the best thing would be to resist the temptation and get something else instead.
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Posted: April 28 2014 at 22:47 |
Dellinger wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
I find it a bit strange to read about this kind of hostility towards UH. I only just got the "Magician's Birthday" album, and so far it's the only one I've heard, but I found some really beautiful songs on it, and I really liked Byron's singing, I can't imagine anyone having being bothered by his voice, I find it just beautiful, one of the better aspects of the band. |
I agree with you for the most part , and I bought the first album when it came out in 1970.....Byron is not a 'bad' singer and their music is not that bad at all ......though I did stop buying them after Magicians Birthday.
I prolly should listen to those that came out in the rest of the 70's. |
Same here, stopped after Magician's Birthday [EDIT: Check that, the last UH album I bought was Sweet Freedom with the single "Stealin'"]. And you probably shouldn't waste your time listening to what came after -- having listened meself, it's not at all like what preceded it.. Just a friendly suggestion. 
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Yeah. Actually, since I did enjoy Magician's Birthday, I inted to get some of their earlier albums, and wasn't really planning on getting the later ones. I guess I would get at least D&D, and the other two albums that are rated higher on this site... plus perhaps the live album too, I would expect to have a rather comprehesive collection of their best work that way. I don't expect to want to go into a collection frenzy and get all I can from them. Though I might be tempted to get the Wetton albums too, just because he is part of the band there, but I guess the best thing would be to resist the temptation and get something else instead. |
All the early ones are good....... if you like Heep to begin with.
Edited by dr wu23 - April 28 2014 at 22:48
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BarryGlibb
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Posted: April 29 2014 at 03:16 |
I like the Hensley/Byron era, although even that era can be patchy.
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Posted: April 29 2014 at 03:48 |
The more some people on here bash the post Magician's Birthday era of Byron Uriah Heep the more i've been listening to it again.I can easily listen to Sweet Freedom,Wonderworld,Return To Fantasy and The High & Mighty for the most part,there are i agree a few lack luster tracks here and there,but gems are there as well.Hey if perhaps your having trouble recalling how the ABC's go you can always listen to 7 Stars from Sweet Freedom.Though i can easily recite the ABC's without hearing David Byron doing it,just saying though if you need a refresher course...well there is 7 Stars to be heard.
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Posted: April 29 2014 at 06:42 |
^^^
Yeah, there are many gems in UH's huge discography.
I like almost all the albums released by the band.
Abominog from 1982 is particularly strong with a refreshed sound. The following year's Head First is good too (Goalby was a great vocalist).
Thumbs up also for their recent Wake the Sleeper and Into the Wild.
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Kentucky_Hawkwindage
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Posted: April 29 2014 at 16:08 |
Yes-i as well am a big fan of Abominog & Head First,i have Equater on LP but if i recall it wasn't up to parr with the previous 2 i mentioned.I kinda lost track of Heep after Equater. Maybe i should check into that time period that came after as well and up to present.
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Posted: April 29 2014 at 16:15 |
Equator is from 1985... is the lowest point of the band's 80s.
not completely bad though. The closer Night of the Wolf is great!!!
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Kentucky_Hawkwindage
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Posted: April 29 2014 at 16:18 |
I recall Rockarama i think as being the best track on Equater(i think thats the title).I really need to check out what came after & i'll do it when i get time.
Edited by Kentucky_Hawkwindage - April 29 2014 at 16:19
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Posted: April 30 2014 at 12:37 |
For all its lineup changes, its pretty consistent. The only era that didn't work for me was the John Sloman, who sounded like Glenn Hughes(wrong singer for Heep) era of "Conquest". But all the other guys worked as Lawton, Goalby and current guy Bernie Shaw. Albums varies, but you can find a good song here or there. A compilation of all Heep stuff is the best way to get an idea of the post-Byron era.
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Posted: May 03 2014 at 16:31 |
Acrimony against Uriah Heep is still alive and kicking. This is the band's review in the Scaruffi's History of Rock (scaruffi.com):
With Black Sabbath, Uriah Heep were the purveyors of the "dark" subgenre of hard-rock at its inception. They were technically incompetent and stylistically irrelevant, but nonetheless managed to last forever.[\FONT]
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Posted: May 03 2014 at 16:51 |
Apparently Heep will always be an "underdog band". But every dog does have it's day. I'm a fan of underdogs,as i consider myself an underdog.I occasionally do have my day though.
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Posted: May 03 2014 at 16:54 |
richardh wrote:
Music critics talk bollocks. End of. |
We have to make sure we include the ones at ProgArchives, you know?
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Posted: May 03 2014 at 18:44 |
^ absolutely right, subjectively speaking of course
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Posted: May 03 2014 at 19:14 |
^ and those who would criticise them of course... and those who critique those who criticise the critics... and them that offer criticism on those who critique those who criticise the critics... and those who are critical of those who offer criticism on those who critique those who criticise the critics... even they have their critics.
In the words of George Bernard ... "Remember: those who can, do; those who can't, teach." (and those who can do neither, talk bollocks and become critics).
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dr wu23
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Posted: May 04 2014 at 13:25 |
Dean wrote:
^ and those who would criticise them of course... and those who critique those who criticise the critics... and them that offer criticism on those who critique those who criticise the critics... and those who are critical of those who offer criticism on those who critique those who criticise the critics... even they have their critics.
In the words of George Bernard ... "Remember: those who can, do; those who can't, teach." (and those who can do neither, talk bollocks and become critics). |
Uh...ok then....but what are your thoughts on Uriah Heep..?
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