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digdug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4707 |
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I've only heard the Kraftwerk and the Schulze
both are awesome voted for Kraftwerk
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Prog On!
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Hercules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
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I used to have a partner who was also a prog fanatic (he reviewed on this site) and who had tastes that overlapped with mine, but he also collected some obscure bands that I'd never heard of (or had heard but didn't like) and had a huge number (possibly over 2000) albums I didn't have as well as many I did. Sadly, he passed away fairly suddenly in Dec 2006 and I inherited his massive vinyl/CD collection. I listened to them all (which took almost 2 years) before selecting those I wished to keep (about 20%) and those I wished to dispose of. Many of those on this list were in there; usually one play told me what I needed to make a decision, but a few I kept for further listens. I do quite like some other albums by bands on this list (Bowie, Univers Zero, Kraftwerk) but I'm not really a big fan of any of them.
That's why I have heard a grotesquely large number of albums that I didn't buy myself and so actually didn't like when i came to hear them.
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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Can I have the ones you don't want?
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Hercules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
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Well, I certainly agree about the Eagles.. QUOTE] I don't! Clearly, I'm one of those "normal people" who likes utter crap because I have the first five Eagles albums (though I like the first three best) as well as loads by CSNY, Poco and the like.
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Hercules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
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Sorry - long gone. (Though some are still available in the 2nd hand record shops in Leeds and York and some are in charity shops because noone wanted to buy them).
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37214 |
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7 Note in Nero was released as a 7 inch vinyl in 1977, but I was referring to the Sette Note in Nero CD release in 2006. I tend to note the recorded dates more than the release dates, but I should correct that in Frizzi's discography and then add the single. Plus I neglected to list my second favourite Bixio/ Frizzi/ Tempera soundtrack in the discogarphy, Vai Gorilla. Ah yes regarding the PM, that was negligent and forgetful of me. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37214 |
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You've mentioned his passing before, and you have my condolences. That's rough. On an inconsequential note: A lot of the more popular Prog i have heard is because of an ex friend of mine. That's why I've heard nearly all of the Rush albums despite not liking most Rush..
Various of those albums (vinyls) could fetch a pretty penny on sites such as eBay these days as they have collector's value. If I were in England (Leeds and York more specifically), I would like to check out those charity shops in case some are still around. I'd like to travel around the Yorkshire area. Maybe next year. |
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akamaisondufromage ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 16 2009 Location: Blighty Status: Offline Points: 6797 |
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Help me I'm falling!
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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^Oh yes.
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akamaisondufromage ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 16 2009 Location: Blighty Status: Offline Points: 6797 |
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I thank you!
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The Bearded Bard ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 24 2012 Location: Behind the Sun Status: Offline Points: 12859 |
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Nash ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 30 2007 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 529 |
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some really nice albums in here. Ill go with Peter hammills Over, love this album, incredibly intense and sentimental
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12418 |
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Its normal to like Eagles, but you still don't come across as normal. Besides genuinely normal people have no taste at all.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Over for me.
btw Punk was 1976-77. The time-period from 78-79 is Post-Punk.
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ole-the-first ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2012 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 1534 |
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Wouldn't be original. Low.
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This night wounds time.
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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It's ironic then that you crave historical recognition for some of those albums in your list because punk's place in history is informed heavily by mainstream success, as with most things rock. Anyhow, don't like Eagles either though I do like a lot of "normal people music"; always found them very boring for some reason. Haven't heard many albums from this list but from the ones I am familiar with, voting for Mirage. |
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12418 |
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^I should probably have understood that my opening post was gonna cause a lot of reactions, but I didn't really think it over. I just wrote something that clearly expressed where I stand. When I say i hate punk it doesn't really mean that i hate Sex Pistols. Much like Bob Dylan what I hate is how dominant that simple approach to rock has become. The (hopefully dying) rock consensus made by uniformed fans and journalists is what bothers me. Still, when history gives us enough distance, commercial success becomes less and less important. Very few of the artists considered the most important throughout history were also the most successful during their time. Look beyond the rock era and practically none of the biggest sellers are considered the most important any longer. Influence and what another age defines as quality will always prevail.
"The Year of Punk" is an expression used for 1977. As "The Year Punk Broke" would have meant 1991 (because of the documentary).
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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That's not necessarily true either seeing as Mozart was ALSO very successful in his time apart from being considered influential. But I won't argue the point further because what I want to point out is when you say "look beyond the rock era", you really mean what precedes it. The rock era is not over yet and so the tendency to derive influence from popularity continues. Also, another age would tend to define something as quality from amongst whatever music hasn't got drowned in the archives. What happens is they look at artists who were the most popular from that era and isolate the ones who seem to be more weighty or have contributed to some innovations as the influential ones, while overlooking the ones who were too closely linked to the epoch of their time to appeal to future generations. I wouldn't mind if indeed as you suggest, importance and influence is derived from merit and not popularity (though that begs the question how exactly do we go about defining merit in rock), I am just saying that that is not the case of today. |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I disagree. Punk acts were still going and starting in this period.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I really couldn't care. There are still punk bands going and starting today, 2012 is not the year of punk.
Punk as a music genre started in NY in the early 70s but became a world-wide scene complete a recognisable image in 1976. The first British Punk album was released in 1977 and that to me marks the end of the anarchic, nihilistic, anti-establishment Punk and the beginning of sanitised corporate New Wave Punk.
The first post-punk album was 1978. Everything changed after that.
In 1978 Johnny Rotten became John Lydon and formed Public Image Limited.
By 1979 Punk was more deaderer than Prog ever was.
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