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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 06:32
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

What no Kerry Livgren yet?


Second one named in the second post.  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 06:35
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Epignosis: Note my *not* marching into this thread to make "witty" comments and argue with their interpretation of the lyrics.


If I'm not welcome in the thread you started, just say so.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 06:37
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

What no Kerry Livgren yet?


Second one named in the second post.  Wink

Missed it. Embarrassed
Anyway, I like the way Kerry kind of sneaks it in.  Nobody's Home could just as easily be about an alien revisiting earth as Jesus returning after we've destroyed the place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 06:37
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Epignosis: Note my *not* marching into this thread to make "witty" comments and argue with their interpretation of the lyrics.


If I'm not welcome in the thread you started, just say so.

I thought your interpretations were spot on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 06:38
Did anyone mention King's X yet?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 06:39
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Yes (sort of, to a certain extent)


Ummmmmm, no.
Ok, maybe not. My mistake! Isn't Jon chrisitan though? A lot of the lyrics on CTTE and Tales deal with spirituality, don't they?


He's more of a new-age spiritualist, which is really a totally different animal than Christianity.
 
Agreed. Jon Anderson tends towards syncretism and solar worship. He is definitely not a Christian (unless my info is not up-to-date).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 06:39
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

What no Kerry Livgren yet?


Second one named in the second post.  Wink

Missed it. Embarrassed
Anyway, I like the way Kerry kind of sneaks it in.  Nobody's Home could just as easily be about an alien revisiting earth as Jesus returning after we've destroyed the place.


His lyrics are more ambiguous because he was spiritually evolving, and some of the themes of the different religions overlapped.

It's a lot like how, in the words or Lurlene from The Simpsons, if you take a love song and change all of the "baby"s to "Jesus," you have a Christian hit.  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 07:07
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:



It's a lot like how, in the words or Lurlene from The Simpsons, if you take a love song and change all of the "baby"s to "Jesus," you have a Christian hit.  LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 09:15
Well, I'm not a Christian, or any other religious flavor, but I am a spiritual person (and have a number of Christian friends).  I love Neal Morse's solo works, though for me I wish he would explore some different topics, lyrically.  I think it's fair to say that Christians could do that and still have a good message, right?  I mean, Transatlantic's, The Whirlwind is pretty much that, isn't it?  Anyway, I also really like Iona.  Beyond that, most of the bands mentioned here do nothing for me.

I would suggest that the Flower Kings, while not being specifically Christian, certainly have an inclination towards beliefs that resonate with Christians.  There are certainly specific songs, like Humanizzimo, The Judas Kiss, The Flower King, etc. that have a heavy Christian content.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 21:14
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

  All truth is God's truth.

LOL

You're quite free to disagree with me, but I honestly don't see what's so funny.  I don't think this thread was started to laugh at people's beliefs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 04:48
Not exactly faith based but:
Residents, The    Wormwood - Curious Stories From The Bible
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 05:20
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

  All truth is God's truth.

LOL

You're quite free to disagree with me, but I honestly don't see what's so funny.  I don't think this thread was started to laugh at people's beliefs.

I apologise. I will refrain in future. I comment like yours always doubles me up. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 06:56
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

  All truth is God's truth.

LOL

You're quite free to disagree with me, but I honestly don't see what's so funny.  I don't think this thread was started to laugh at people's beliefs.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 09:19
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

  All truth is God's truth.

LOL

You're quite free to disagree with me, but I honestly don't see what's so funny.  I don't think this thread was started to laugh at people's beliefs.

Apology accepted

Why can't we laugh at someone's beliefs if they are actually funny?  If they believe in evil is it wrong to call it evil?  I respect people who believe things that I don't agree with and I do try to refrain from ridicule but sometimes it isn't easy.


Edited by Slartibartfast - February 29 2012 at 09:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 09:31
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

  All truth is God's truth.

LOL

You're quite free to disagree with me, but I honestly don't see what's so funny.  I don't think this thread was started to laugh at people's beliefs.

Apology accepted

Why can't we laugh at someone's beliefs if they are actually funny?  If they believe in evil is it wrong to call it evil?  I respect people who believe things that I don't agree with and I do try to refrain from ridicule but sometimes it isn't easy.


Well, I think perhaps coming on a thread where it is pretty obvious what the focus is going to be, and then laughing at people who feel that way, is not very nice.  My feelings about it are just like Snowdog's, but I don't feel expressing it here is appropriate or necessary.  Just my thought on it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 09:45
I try to give all people their due respect but if a ha ha is the worst you get it's not that bad.

But expressing your opinions around here will get you some slings and arrows, sometimes uncivil.  A thick skin is important.  If you can't stand the heat you might want to move out of the kitchen for a while.  The smell of the cooking may lure you back in sometime.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 11:24
As to laughing.. It is impossible to read body language over the internet so expressions tend to be taken quite literally. This winds up in misunderstandings a lot. We have to allow for that. My approach would ideally be to ask that person if they mean to ridicule me since it seems that way and allow them to be more specific. < ="text/" ="" ="/B1D671CF-E532-4481-99AA-19F420D90332etdefender/huidhui.js?0=0&0=0&0=0">

Also it's easy for people to be mean on the internet because of its anonymity, but while we are talking about God... people are still people whether they are posting on the internet, or next door, or in your own house. We are accountable to treat people with love and respect no matter where we are. (not that I am perfect in that, but it is the goal I shoot for)

No matter what your spiritual worldview is the question is this: 

Are you going to sew Life or Death into the world around you?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 12:09
Originally posted by LirazelsOdyssey LirazelsOdyssey wrote:

As to laughing.. It is impossible to read body language over the internet so expressions tend to be taken quite literally. This winds up in misunderstandings a lot. We have to allow for that. My approach would ideally be to ask that person if they mean to ridicule me since it seems that way and allow them to be more specific. < ="text/" ="" ="/B1D671CF-E532-4481-99AA-19F420D90332etdefender/huidhui.js?0=0&0=0&0=0">

Also it's easy for people to be mean on the internet because of its anonymity, but while we are talking about God... people are still people whether they are posting on the internet, or next door, or in your own house. We are accountable to treat people with love and respect no matter where we are. (not that I am perfect in that, but it is the goal I shoot for)

No matter what your spiritual worldview is the question is this: 

Are you going to sew Life or Death into the world around you?



Well put!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2012 at 07:44
Kerry Livgren's renewal of Proto-Kaw, although not explicitly Christian, alude to faith in their songs. Their new album Forth has gotta be their best yet.
http://youtu.be/FuEHTMhRxJQ < Opening track

Additionally, I would consider Transatlantic to be faith-based. At least The Whirlwind (Dancing with Eternal Glory? Yeah.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2012 at 13:04
Originally posted by Tuck Tuck wrote:

Kerry Livgren's renewal of Proto-Kaw, although not explicitly Christian, alude to faith in their songs. Their new album Forth has gotta be their best yet.
http://youtu.be/FuEHTMhRxJQ < Opening track

Additionally, I would consider Transatlantic to be faith-based. At least The Whirlwind (Dancing with Eternal Glory? Yeah.)

Neal Morse, who wrote the lyrics, is faith based. I am not altogether sure about the others.
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