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Andy Webb

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Posted: March 19 2011 at 14:07

The Mars Volta: "vanguards of neo-prog" LOL wut? LOL

VanVanVan

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Posted: March 19 2011 at 14:16

andyman1125 wrote:

The Mars Volta: "vanguards of neo-prog" LOL wut? LOL

I personally liked "The Flaming Lips inherit the mantle of playful prog created by Peter Gabriel-era Genesis." It seems like they just wikipedia'd "Prog Rock" and then copy + pasted in names of random bands to compare their entries to.

Overall this was pretty silly. LOL

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Posted: March 19 2011 at 14:27

VanVanVan wrote:

andyman1125 wrote:

The Mars Volta: "vanguards of neo-prog" LOL wut? LOL

Overall this was pretty silly. LOL

Yea, they had no idea what they were talking about LOL

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Posted: March 19 2011 at 16:46

The media needs to know that Radiohead is NOT the definition of prog.

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Posted: March 21 2011 at 13:35

RoyFairbank wrote:

Relatively speaking, All modern music sucks!

No! No! No... no no no no no no. Stupid. NO! AHHHH... nopey nopey no nope noepeydy nope nope. Now go and find new music that doesn't suck! It's going to be impossible.

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Posted: March 21 2011 at 13:41

stonebeard wrote:

If you take away post rock, which isn't prog rock, then correctly categorize the rest of the bands as either some varient of alternative rock or neo-psychedelia, then all you have left is The Mars Volta, who are terrible.

Post rock (and math rock) are very much prog, just not in the 70s sense of the word. They might not be with these insane lines and baroque influences don't mean they're not prog. Many of the bands are as experimental if not even more experimental, and yes, literally progressive, than 70s bands.

And Mars Volta are OK, no need to exaggerate...

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Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:26

frippism wrote:

RoyFairbank wrote:

Relatively speaking, All modern music sucks!

No! No! No... no no no no no no. Stupid. NO! AHHHH... nopey nopey no nope noepeydy nope nope. Now go and find new music that doesn't suck! It's going to be impossible.

There's more modern music that's bad than good.

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Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:53

If thats what people think modern prog is then no wonder people dont like prog from the present.

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Posted: March 21 2011 at 15:50

andyman1125 wrote:

frippism wrote:

RoyFairbank wrote:

Relatively speaking, All modern music sucks!

No! No! No... no no no no no no. Stupid. NO! AHHHH... nopey nopey no nope noepeydy nope nope. Now go and find new music that doesn't suck! It's going to be impossible.

There's more modern music that's bad than good.

Again, NO! Well yes. There is more bad music than good music IN EVERY DECADE. I think we're in a great time in music (yes there's crap, and a lot of it but so it was in every other decade). But with that there's some of the most innovative and interesting music to have come out. So don't think this period sucks, people will look back and wish they were in where we are now.

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Posted: March 21 2011 at 16:17

andyman1125 wrote:

The Mars Volta: "vanguards of neo-prog" LOL wut? LOL

I actually thought that was like saying that merde a la carte, is as good, if not better than escargot ... or anchovies ... not on a pizza, or as an apperif ... but as an entree!

I would like to feed that stuff to Guillermo Puertas ... see if he will buy that instead of KC, or ELP ... bet you he wouldn't! But what he cares .. he's a rich don't give a cahoot anyway!

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Posted: March 21 2011 at 16:26

SolarLuna96 wrote:

The media needs to know that Radiohead is NOT the definition of prog.

And you think that you can tell a behemoth that he is stupid and doesn't even know what the word means, or what kinda music Radiohead is?

Remember ... that's the same conglomerate that makes money off sales by Radiohead ... before you say anything that might hurt!

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VanVanVan

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Posted: March 22 2011 at 08:30

frippism wrote:

andyman1125 wrote:

frippism wrote:

RoyFairbank wrote:

Relatively speaking, All modern music sucks!

No! No! No... no no no no no no. Stupid. NO! AHHHH... nopey nopey no nope noepeydy nope nope. Now go and find new music that doesn't suck! It's going to be impossible.

There's more modern music that's bad than good.

Quoted for truth Thumbs Up

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Posted: March 22 2011 at 14:06

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moshkito

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Posted: March 23 2011 at 13:30

Hi,

Just remember one thing ... about advertising ... and it's called the "deep throat syndromme" ... if you want to kill something, the best thing you can do is drop it, and no talk about it! ... so everytime we say something we're giving those folks more credence than they are worth ...

There are times I wish I were an admin ... I might just delete these posts! ... until WE get recognition for our work from them!

Again, we here at PA, should be the ambassadors for the medium and the music ... not someone that can just write some piddly little crap about nothing and not even be able to describe the music, without using words that have pretty much nothing to do with the band, but I'm not sure there is enough intelligence to question what was written ... after all ... MSN is bigger than us!

Edited by moshkito - March 23 2011 at 13:36

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Posted: March 23 2011 at 15:08

Its seems that the easy thing for these so called music experts to do lately, is tag anything non-radio friendly as "neo, prog, mathematics..." The hope is that one of these reporters will become the next music genre genius.....Explaining and using these terms to all the pop world as though it is something NEW.

I do listen to C&C and I like the first 3 albums very much........All the other bands listed I don't think I have heard anything by them.

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Posted: March 23 2011 at 15:17

SolarLuna96 wrote:

Radiohead is NOT the definition of prog.

IMO they're prog-related at best. I think they deserve the 'prog' title as much as Green Day or My Chemical Romance do, in that they've incorporated prog elements in their music, but not enough to be considered prog.

Edited by darkshade - March 23 2011 at 15:19

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Posted: March 23 2011 at 16:11

Good list i think, it was about modern prog bands, sure i dont listen to half of the bands listed but i still think it was a good and intresting list.

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Posted: March 23 2011 at 17:10

I haven't heard of a lot the bands they talked about, but at least they mentioned Oceansize. That was a plus.

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Posted: March 23 2011 at 17:24

Well the article at least mentioned my two favorite bands in the world right now which are Sigur Ros and Radiohead, so kudos to them. I'm ashamed that they didn't mention Porcupine Tree, Ulver, or any number of prog metal guys (Queensryche = 21st Century? Come on!)

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Posted: March 28 2011 at 20:04

Lol... Tame Impala are a 21st century Prog band? Hell, forget about Porcupine Tree kids, Tame Impala are dominating that genre. Also... to the guy who insists that C&C use vocal tuning and stabilisation programs... uhh, good luck with that.

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