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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 18:38 |
octopus-4 wrote:
Anthony said:
2 Roger Waters can't sing
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Does not compute.
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catfood03
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 21:51 |
I thought Obscured by Clouds is supposed to be the worst Floyd. I have never owned or listened to The Final Cut before discovering this thread, so I gave it a thorough listen (thanks to YouTube, except Not Now John was missing) and was mildly impressed. I for one prefer the darker atmospherics and mood on this to the David Gilmour led Floyd
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Adams Bolero
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 22:03 |
catfood03 wrote:
I thought Obscured by Clouds is supposed to be the worst Floyd.
I have never owned or listened to The Final Cut before discovering this thread, so I gave it a thorough listen (thanks to YouTube, except Not Now John was missing) and was mildly impressed. I for one prefer the darker atmospherics and mood on this to the David Gilmour led Floyd
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Obscured by Clouds is great! The Final Cut is good not great.
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catfood03
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 22:17 |
Maybe it's More I'm thinking of?
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The Truth
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 22:20 |
The worst Floyd album is Momentary Lapse of Reason.
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Dellinger
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 23:45 |
I don't think it's Crap, though it's far from my fav Floyd album. There are some very good songs, mainly the title song for me, and "The Fletcher Memorial Home". The album would have been better if it had included both parts of "The Heroes Return", I find that one rather good, but far too short, while being played both parts together, it's long enough for me to enjoy it. And then, the inclusion of "When the Tigers Broke Free" on the last remaster also adds to the album.
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 05 2010 at 00:17 |
So two new candidates as worst PF album have appeared. I've been criticized because of negative polls so I won't open a new one. Obscured by Clouds contains elements that were exploited later on Dark Side, Animals, The Wall and The Final Cut and has some of the darkest lyrics ever written by Waters.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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pied piper
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:23 |
Oh well... I beg your pardon, but I wholly dislike Final Cut.
No matter what I think about Waters, but simply I don't like the tunes, that's all folks. And last but not least, Wright had quit the band... I think the record as a Water's solo, with Gilmour, Mason and others as session musician.
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lazland
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:28 |
The Truth wrote:
Thatcher wasn't a dictator was she? |
Try telling that to the poor sods who had to serve in her Cabinet
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:30 |
Polls are here to make us express our thoughts. Until we are not offensive we all have the right to disagree each other
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:41 |
The likers are well in the majority here. I'm quite pleased with that.
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Publius84
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:59 |
The Final Cut is a fantastic album, very lyrical and personal, full of beautyful melodies. As was said, we can treat it as a Roger Waters solo effort released under the "Pink Floyd" name. But still it is a very solid "Pink Floyd" album or one of the best (if not the best) Waters album. Anyway it is a piece of very good anti-war concept album.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:17 |
The Final Cut is a Waters solo album - I dont have it contaminating my Pink Floyd collection.
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Cristi
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 10:46 |
The Final Cut is still a pretty good album; the songs on the album that are unlistenable to me anymore are Southampton Dock and Not Now John; I still enjoy the rest though.
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Dellinger
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 22:49 |
I don't like Southampton Dock very much either, but the live version from "In The Flesh" is pretty nice, it's got some extra chorus... and something seems to have been corrected from the original song. It just sounds more complete.
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LateralMe
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 15:40 |
It's an alright CD but I'm not big on Pink Floyd. I'll have to say that The Final Cut song itself is great!
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A Flower!?
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crimhead
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 15:59 |
option two. I liked parts of it back in the day but.....
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steppenfloyd
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 18:19 |
From what I've heard there are only two songs that I like from that album: Not Now John and The Fletcher Memorial Home. But Not Now John could have been much better without the goddamn background singers repeating "f**k all that"
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 18:22 |
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steppenfloyd
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 18:08 |
When the Tigers Broke Free has got to be the worst Pink Floyd song.
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